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  1. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    Where did this come from? Very recently, a few people have suddenly come up with this accusation. Are you reading some intelligence reports that I'm not? Or is this the latest talking point from the Hillary campaign. These accusations seem too coordinated.

    These are serious questions. I've seen all kinds of BS leveled against Trump****. Most of it SJW tripe, but why the accusation of Russian operative? Why not Chinese, Palestinian or a mix. The elites seem to be pushing WWIII. I am very curious about this and the timing.
    Obvious Russian is Obvious, add him to the list vvonMises.
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  3. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Obvious Russian is Obvious, add him to the list vvonMises.
    According to Smitty and Von Mises I'm a Jewish Russian. At least I'm in "good" company with @Suzanimal. Well, I'm in company at least.
    Last edited by RJB; 08-24-2016 at 04:53 PM.

  4. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    According to Smitty and Von Mises I'm a Jewish Russian. At least I'm in "good" company with @Suzanimal. Well, I'm in company at least.
    It won't be that bad, it's not like I'm kosher or anything.

    We can start a Jewish Russian club - maybe get us some furry yarmulkes and a secret handshake. Trust me, it'll be fun.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
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    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

  5. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    furry yarmulkes

    With earflaps?
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    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  6. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    With earflaps?
    Hell, yeah! I hate being cold.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

  7. #96
    I'll try to get back at a few others here, but anyways I want to get filings associated with the Foundation for Rational Economics and Education, a non-profit (but religious?) organization founded by Ron Paul in 1976 and is the holding organization for the Ron Paul Institute... I have certain suspicions... (Argh, what on earth has Ron Paul, or those very close to him, have gotten themselves into for the last three decades??...). At the moment, I can only pay to get these filings. Can someone offer a free way to access them?

    EDIT: Okay found a website, https://projects.propublica.org/, and many more. It was more easier than I thought. I'll spend time looking at the filings later.
    Last edited by vonMises; 08-24-2016 at 08:32 PM.



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  9. #97
    And anyone know where I can get a possible list of individual donors for non-profit organizations? Is this something that the government ever needs to know?

  10. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by vonMises View Post
    And anyone know where I can get a possible list of individual donors for non-profit organizations? Is this something that the government ever needs to know?
    Really? You're asking us to help you dig up crap you can use to expose Ron Paul as the "king of useful idiots" ... ?

    neg-rep (with more on the way every time I see you spew this crap ...)
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  11. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Really? You're asking us to help you dig up crap you can use to expose Ron Paul as the "king of useful idiots" ... ?

    neg-rep (with more on the way every time I see you spew this crap ...)
    Lew Rockwell has said and done things that indicates that he's a man of relatively poor character (I can speak of particular instances, like being disloyal to the Paul Family by never supporting Rand, but use your own mind to think what those instances can be). Daniel McAdams is the same (if not an actual Russian agent). (Here's just one link of many links I have linking McAdams to the Russians, http://anton-shekhovtsov.blogspot.co...hind-anti.html, and if any of you already read some of the links I've provided before you should already be familiar with some of the other individuals named in the article like Dugin, but PLEASE VISIT MCADAMS GOD DAMN TWITTER, THERE'S A GOD DAMN FLAG OF BELARUS, the only authoritarian and socialist remaining country in Europe, and of which he has voiced high approval over, AND THEN READ ANY OF HIS TWEETS). And yet these men are very close associates to Ron Paul, with McAdams being the closest person to him now. And in Rockwell's case, I want to know the extent that he knows of McAdams connections to the Russians and if he had any other knowledge of Russians being involved in the Ron Paul campaigns. I even wonder if there was a knowledge of a lack of involvement from the Russians with the Rand Paul campaign (Rand Paul's age and general dispositions, unlike his father, or even Donald Trump, would make him more alert if he's being manipulated [thus we never see key Ron Paul associates ever associating with Rand Paul. Would Rand Paul allow racist articles to be written under his name, for example?]). They are keeping Ron Paul out of the loop of things, but if ever Ron Paul were truly informed of the kind of people Lew Rockwell and Daniel McAdams are, and yet doesn't disavow them, I don't want to ever support Ron Paul for anything any longer. And if Rand Paul doesn't disavow these same individuals, he will lose my support as well. FOR THE TIME BEING PLEASE DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH ON WHAT I'VE ALREADY SHARED (a few seconds may just confirm some of my concerns/allegations). I haven't lied but I do acknowledge that my suspicions touch innuendo at the moment, BUT IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO ORGANIZE AND WRITE INFORMATION ABOUT LOOSELY CONNECTED AND DIFFERENT THINGS (I came back to RPF to discuss a Trump and ISIS connection, not Daniel McAdams, Lew Rockwell or Russian bots on RPF). I could provide a long list of unorganized sources and screen shots, but I just want to put things out there for PEOPLE TO DO THEIR OWN RESEARCH AND MAKE THEIR OWN CONCLUSIONS.
    Last edited by vonMises; 08-25-2016 at 01:55 AM.

  12. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Really? You're asking us to help you dig up crap you can use to expose Ron Paul as the "king of useful idiots" ... ?

    neg-rep (with more on the way every time I see you spew this crap ...)
    Wow, so many Russians are coming out of the woodwork. Good job, vonMises!
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  13. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Wow, so many Russians are coming out of the woodwork. Good job, vonMises!
    For that, I put you on list with Moose and Squirrel.

  14. #102
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Wow, so many Russians are coming out of the woodwork. Good job, vonMises!
    You know this Banana guy wasn't a person I suspected or even RJB (Banana guy even posted in that thread I created), as they are simply so many Russian operatives here already that my radar for them is not fine-tuned to catch all of them (my radar is a little weak at the moment too and the bots in this particular thread may be purposely saying less), and as I haven't been reading other threads here at the moment, they didn't exactly read out as Russians to me yet, but I'll make sure to look into them and they might just be Russian operatives! But my issue is not really them though, it's really the likes of McAdams and Rockwell. The Russian bots here still love Ron Paul and are loyal to him in some weird way, and they don't have the capacity or willingness to ever manipulate and undermine a person like Ron Paul the way McAdams and Rockwell has done. These men accuse others of being psychopaths and evil but they may truly be those things themselves. Clinton leaks can make the case that she's clearly corrupt, and even boring, but is she a backstabber?
    Last edited by vonMises; 08-25-2016 at 01:54 AM.

  15. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by vonMises View Post
    You know this Banana guy wasn't a person I suspected or even RJB (Banana guy even posted in that thread I created), as they are simply so many Russian operatives here already that my radar for them is not fine-tuned to catch all of them (my radar is a little weak at the moment too and the bots in this particular thread may be purposely saying less), and as I haven't been reading other threads here at the moment, they didn't exactly read out as Russians to me yet, but I'll make sure to look into them and they might just be Russian operatives! But my issue is not really them though, it's really the likes of McAdams and Rockwell. The Russian bots here still love Ron Paul and are loyal to him in some weird way, and they don't have the capacity or willingness to ever manipulate and undermine a person like Ron Paul the way McAdams and Rockwell has done. These men accuse others of being psychopaths and evil but they may truly be those things themselves. Clinton leaks can make the case that she's clearly corrupt, and even boring, but is she a backstabber?
    We should probably take this offline.

    Send me a PM with your email and we can compare lists.
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  16. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    For that, I put you on list with Moose and Squirrel.
    Clever attempt at deflection.


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  18. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by vonMises View Post
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    Have some more neg-rep, tovarisch.

  19. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    We should probably take this offline.

    Send me a PM with your email and we can compare lists.
    An actual email, with my name attached to it, right? I might need to acquaint myself with you a lot more before doing that though, but I could share with you the 5 persons in that one thread of mine. I did mention I want to spy on Russian, Chinese and Iranian nationals and I really need to make sure I don't get on any lists by their governments... For example, there are e-waste centers in the LA area where I see Chinese nationals work at (and they probably own them too). I think such places are the sources of much Chinese government technology within the last 20 years. But my name could start getting out there anyway as I'm going to make phone calls to various persons (like Maine's governor, or his office) about acetaldehyde poisoning and get it moving that mixing ethanol with our gasoline was one of the worst things the United States has done (though it's poisonous effects have been studied for over 70 years, I might just be the only idiot with the bright idea that it's already causing ill effects among the population). So I can't really spy if my name goes out, but it might go out anyway, and there might not be any use in hiding who I am... All in all though, by doing such things, I can definitely say that I'll be playing a pivotal role in saving the United States, if not the world.

    Being apart of the process that ends up saving the world is how liberty gets realized. There's no need to play politics if everyone can acquiesce to you because you saved their lives.
    Last edited by vonMises; 08-25-2016 at 03:44 AM.

  20. #107
    Well. Here's what I'll say about this. Russian media (particularly RT) have provided both Daniel and Ron platforms to thoroughly discuss the critical issues of the day for years. Many times. I've actually posted many of those discussions here myself. Particularly with regard to matters of foreign policy. This is at a time when western media has taken a completely different narrative on things and really just toted the State Department's narrative. I think it's been a good thing for them to have that platform to talk about things in a thorough, uninterrupted, way. And there are many reasons for why.

    Something that has really gone down hill around here is discussion on matters of foreign policy and particularly goings on around the world that aboslutely will impact our level of contribution and their dependence on our system.

    OP, I think that you're completely off base with regard to the people you call out here.

    But, to your credit, there are likely a few useful idiots around here posting things that could be considered Clinton support. But these are useful idiots. They're on every political forum. Some might know what they're doing by stimulating various strategic discussion with certain news pieces. But most don't.
    Last edited by Natural Citizen; 08-25-2016 at 03:11 AM.

  21. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by vonMises View Post
    An actual email, with my name attached to it, right? I might need to acquaint myself with you a lot more before doing that though, but I could share with you the 5 persons in that one thread of mine. I did mention I want to spy on Russian, Chinese and Iranian nationals and I really need to make sure I don't get on any lists by their governments... For example, there are e-waste centers in the LA area where I see Chinese nationals work at (and they probably own them too). I think such places are the sources of much Chinese government technology within the last 20 years. But my name could start getting out there as I'm going to make phone calls to various persons (like Maine's governor, or his office) about acetaldehyde poisoning and get it moving that mixing ethanol with our gasoline was one of the worst things the United States has done (though it's poisonous effects have been studied for over 70 years, I might just be the only idiot at the moment with the bright idea that it's already causing ill effects among the population). So I can't really spy if my name goes out... All in all though, by doing such things, I can definitely say that I'll be playing a pivotal role in saving the United States, if not the world.

    Being apart of the process that ends up saving the world is how liberty gets realized. There's no need to play politics if everyone can acquiesce to you because you saved their asses.
    We could use Hush Mail.

    This is too important to not share and compare.

    I think we should contact TheTexan, he might have valuable contacts.
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  22. #109
    And before I forget saying it, Snowden has a good chance of being pardoned by Obama. If I can anticipate things without much proof, this has a good chance of happening... However damaging, Snowden's leaks were he never compromised any US operatives or assets around the world. Assange, who I believe is a Russian operative (http://www.smh.com.au/world/us-elect...28-gqfq8b.html), was able to get Snowden into Russia, but Assange never got a hold of any documents from Snowden. However much Snowden is now implicated as a Russian operative I think he holds a level of patriotism that even Lew Rockwell is absent of... I think he's made up for his leaks by actually finding ways to spy on the Russians and will get pardoned for this activity. Obama could use the idea that pardoning Snowden will prevent other secrets from being released by him.

  23. #110
    Sputnik even reported that there were more than 400 Western agents/spies observed last year in Russia, far greater than in any other years, especially during during Soviet times. With Russia's NGO and visa laws, it's actually very difficult to enter and stay in Russia, and Snowden would be one of the few people who can actually spy. The Russians made a mistake to get him inside their country. Hopefully what Snowden has done is to help put some balance in the hybrid war that we are badly losing against Russia, China and Iran.

    And if Snowden was ever found dead it would have increased already awful tensions with the White House, so he's protected enough to go about his spying. I'm sure the Russians try to monitor him as much as they can, but there will be gaps in this monitoring that will allow him opportunities to spy...and he has...and he will go home (but only a person like me will realize that he's a hero for his spying activities).

  24. #111
    I just realized vonmises is trolling . I regret neg repping him.

  25. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by silverhandorder View Post
    I just realized vonmises is trolling . I regret neg repping him.
    Welcome to the party.



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  27. #113
    Quote Originally Posted by silverhandorder View Post
    I just realized vonmises is trolling . I regret neg repping him.
    Prior to Russian trolling activity, I always regarded trolls as perverts. I define a pervert as a person that gets turned on or stimulated in weird ways, and in ways that the typical person would be oblivious to. Perverts to me to me also have a high threshold of stimulation, and as it applies to trolling they will need to rile up as many people as they can in order to get stimulated. It's probably hard to read what's happening on my end of the computer, but I'm not getting off by revealing the things I have. There's also a cognitive and cultural difference between a good number of individuals here, and I sense my allegations have been accepted by a few INTJ's and INTP's here and I don't register as a troll to them. Ahem...I might also register smarter than them...but certainly slower than them as well...but if I can speak of my own cognitive powers and intuition, they've accepted me, but it's up to me, or even them, to concretely prove the things I brought up. Even then, throwing concrete proof at people may never convince them of anything, but I'm not willing to play the game the Russians are playing with information.

    And not that I care about "neg repping" (someone correct me, is this a means towards getting banned?), but you and others here, should realize that I will now be scrutinizing your post history. If you scrutinize my short post history, there's not much to go on to interpret me as a troll. I don't use social media or really engage in message boards, I simply lurk until now... I stopped lurking as crisis moments asks for involvement by good men.

    And the idea that there could even be people responding to me, giving karma, "repping me, or whatever (even beyond RPF), doesn't stimulate me at all. I really don't get off at any of this but they're are simply things that need to be stated.

  28. #114
    DANIEL MCADAMS IS A RUSSIAN AGENT, he bleeds it (and though he's the executive officer of an organization that purports to promote free-markets [FREE]), I really think the guy is a socialist), and he's implicated by foreign governments and individuals as a Russian agent (I'll very much source such later, but it's really a complete given). But what I'm speculating now, but haven't really proven yet, is whether Lew Rockwell and other close associates of Ron Paul knows about Daniel McAdams being a Russian agent and the extent of their knowledge as it concerns Russian activity around the Ron Paul presidential campaigns. (You guys you really can help me on this, AS IT LOOKS LIKE I MIGHT HAVE TO LISTEN TO PSYCHOPATHS TALK FOR HUNDREDS OF HOURS, but some of you have already listened to these psychopaths, and if you can recall incriminating information, just link to it for me here and I can organize it later).

  29. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by vonMises View Post
    DANIEL MCADAMS IS A RUSSIAN AGENT, he bleeds it (and though he's the executive officer of an organization that purports to promote free-markets [FREE]), I really think the guy is a socialist), and he's implicated by foreign governments and individuals as a Russian agent (I'll very much source such later, but it's really a complete given). But what I'm speculating now, but haven't really proven yet, is whether Lew Rockwell and other close associates of Ron Paul knows about Daniel McAdams being a Russian agent and the extent of their knowledge as it concerns Russian activity around the Ron Paul presidential campaigns. (You guys you really can help me on this, AS IT LOOKS LIKE I MIGHT HAVE TO LISTEN TO PSYCHOPATHS TALK FOR HUNDREDS OF HOURS, but some of you have already listened to these psychopaths, and if you can recall incriminating information, just link to it for me here and I can organize it later).
    Someone needs to relay this to Ron quickly.
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  30. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Someone needs to relay this to Ron quickly.
    But we need to carefully organize the information first. I do believe in proving the things I say. My primary reason to share my speculations here is so that people on RPF can help organize (or find more) this information. Ron Paul isn't going to disavow friends if it's based on hints.

    I have to, for example organize the chart I posted in some Alt-Right thread some minutes ago (notice that Ron Paul's name is connected to the Russians by German intelligence), along with a slew of screen shots, statements, and evidence I might get on the ground (like attending Ron Paul Institute's "Peace and Prosperity 2016" conference, or maybe not).

  31. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by vonMises View Post
    But we need to carefully organize the information first. I do believe in proving the things I say. My primary reason to share my speculations here is so that people on RPF can help organize (or find more) this information. Ron Paul isn't going to disavow friends if it's based on hints.

    I have to, for example organize the chart I posted in some Alt-Right thread some minutes ago (notice that Ron Paul's name is connected to the Russians by German intelligence), along with a slew of screen shots, statements, and evidence I might get on the ground (like attending Ron Paul Institute's "Peace and Prosperity 2016" conference, or maybe not).
    It would be good though to see how Ron reacts. That would tell us a lot whether he's in on it or not.
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  32. #118
    I wasn't actually aware of Daniel McAdams postings On RPF until right now. Wow, I really need to know how to navigate this site, lol.

  33. #119
    And asking whether he's a socialist or communist are indeed valid questions given what the Ron Paul Institute actually peddles and given his past association with the British Helsinki Human Rights Group that endorsed communist regimes in Eastern Europe.
    Last edited by vonMises; 09-01-2016 at 05:44 AM.

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