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    The More the Establishment Freaks Out Over Trump, the More Attractive He Becomes

    Trump is attractive precisely because the Establishment fears and loathes him because 1) they didn’t pick him and 2) he might upset the neoconservative Empire that the Establishment elites view as their global entitlement.


    The Establishment is freaking out about Donald Trump for one reason: they didn’t pick him. The Establishment is freaking out because the natural order of things is that we pick the presidential candidates and we run the country to serve ourselves, i.e. the financial-political elites.


    Donald Trump’s candidacy upsets this neo-feudal natural order, and thus he (and everyone who supports him) is anathema to the Establishment, heretics who must be silenced, cowed, marginalized, mocked and ultimately put back in their place as subservient debt-serfs.
    With Trump ascendant, the serfs are selecting the noble in the castle on the hill. Outrageous! Unheard of!


    You know the Establishment is freaking out when Establishment pundit mouthpieces like David Brooks and Francis Fukuyama are freaking out about Trump. David Brooks could not restrain his disdain for Trump on a recent Charlie Rose segment, in which he intoned (and I paraphrase) that Trump can’t put eight words together without referring to himself, i.e. he is not just a narcissist, but he is (take this, Trump!) a fragile narcissist– unlike people like Brooks, of course, who are solid, secure, wise, well-educated, erudite water-carriers for the status quo.

    continued -- https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/08/...-freaks-trump/



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    As someone who has felt like the media has been trying to manipulate me for several decades - even the fact that they hate Trump so much, which makes me like Trump more, feels like a manipulation by the media to make me like Trump. But man, that would be a pretty elaborate hoax, and I'm not quite sure what purpose it would serve. At first I thought it was about Rand, but Rand dropped a long time ago and they are still going full throttle with this whole thing so I can't quite put my finger on it.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by adissa View Post
    The Establishment is freaking out about Donald Trump...
    ...or so the Germans would have you believe...

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    For RPF it is, "The more CPUd and others here spam RPF with bogus anti-Trump articles, the more attractive he becomes".
    * See my visitor message area for caveats related to my posting history here.
    * Also, I have effectively retired from all social media including posting here and are basically opting out of anything to do with national politics or this country on federal or state level and rather focusing locally. I may stop by from time to time to discuss philosophy on a general level related to Libertarian schools of thought and application in the real world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    For RPF it is, "The more CPUd and others here spam RPF with bogus anti-Trump articles, the more attractive he becomes".
    I didn't write the articles.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Don't much like Trump, but when I see that Romney and Bush and Bill Kristol are saying that Trump is unacceptable, it makes me like him more. I don't think it really matters to me how much I like Trump though, as Hillary is so disgusting.

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    In this instance, the enemy of my enemy is just a separate enemy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    As someone who has felt like the media has been trying to manipulate me for several decades - even the fact that they hate Trump so much, which makes me like Trump more, feels like a manipulation by the media to make me like Trump. But man, that would be a pretty elaborate hoax, and I'm not quite sure what purpose it would serve. At first I thought it was about Rand, but Rand dropped a long time ago and they are still going full throttle with this whole thing so I can't quite put my finger on it.

    I can't quite figure it out either. I'm guessing their plan didn't work exactly the way they wanted.

    They've always bashed the GOP candidate. Trump is the GOP candidate, so they're bashing him now. For the year before that, they gave him so much press, and that was designed to prevent Rand from getting traction. They certainly would've preferred Clinton v Bush. Now they have Clinton v Trump. And Clinton v Trump was better for them than Clinton v Rand Paul.

    These days, you could guess that Hillary is just bribing the $#@! out of everybody. Full on bribery, blackmail, threats, murder, lies, like we've never seen before. The media had 0 credibility and they're pulling out all the stops.

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    Trump is falling in popularity, so...
    Stop believing stupid things

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    As of today, Trump basically has a 0% chance to win the election. LOL!

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    He's already called in the establishment to try and help save him again:

    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    For RPF it is, "The more CPUd and others here spam RPF with bogus anti-Trump articles, the more attractive he becomes".
    +1776

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    Quote Originally Posted by parocks View Post

    They've always bashed the GOP candidate. Trump is the GOP candidate, so they're bashing him now. For the year before that, they gave him so much press, and that was designed to prevent Rand from getting traction. They certainly would've preferred Clinton v Bush. Now they have Clinton v Trump. And Clinton v Trump was better for them than Clinton v Rand Paul.

    .
    Yes they went really easy on Trump during the primary season. After he got the nomination they pulled all their stops out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Yes they went really easy on Trump during the primary season. After he got the nomination they pulled all their stops out.
    The press hasn't been much different, but the audience has expanded.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Yes they went really easy on Trump during the primary season. After he got the nomination they pulled all their stops out.
    I haven't seen one interview where they pulled all the stops. Show me the Trump interview where they give him the Ron Paul treatment. I want to see the interview where all they ask him is about how anti Israel he is and his news letters. I've seen softball interview after softball interview that no real threat to the establishment would get.



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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    I haven't seen one interview where they pulled all the stops. Show me the Trump interview where they give him the Ron Paul treatment. I want to see the interview where all they ask him is about how anti Israel he is and his news letters. I've seen softball interview after softball interview that no real threat to the establishment would get.
    Here's one:

    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    I haven't seen one interview where they pulled all the stops. Show me the Trump interview where they give him the Ron Paul treatment. I want to see the interview where all they ask him is about how anti Israel he is and his news letters. I've seen softball interview after softball interview that no real threat to the establishment would get.
    I have not paid much attention to Trump's interviews, because nobody but us cares about poicy, but the headlines have been hit piece after hit piece. CNN spent an entire day discussing the fact that he eats fried chicken with a fork. We were horrified to learn he's never changed a diaper. His first wife wrote a novel where a fictional character was raped, and that was him. He's a racist, a sexist, he hires slave labor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    I have not paid much attention to Trump's interviews, because nobody but us cares about poicy, but the headlines have been hit piece after hit piece. CNN spent an entire day discussing the fact that he eats fried chicken with a fork. We were horrified to learn he's never changed a diaper. His first wife wrote a novel where a fictional character was raped, and that was him. He's a racist, a sexist, he hires slave labor.
    Anything to keep Hillary out of the newz cycle. I'm about 50/50 on whether it is planned or happenstance. As in, whether Trumps a wonderful foil to legitimate concerns about Hillary or he is just Trump and an excellent target for the nonsensical.

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    Kinda obvious to me. The establishment appears to hate Trump because those on the right need an excuse to back Hillary...

    People thinking Trump is anti-establishment seem to ignore the fact that the establishment consists of several "classes": The Donor class (Trump is one), The Crony Class, (Trump is one), The thought-leader class - Media/Clergy/Academia - (Trump is one), and the political class (Trump is one).

    So, unless his campaign (and life) is one big conspiracy, the "libertarians for an authoritarian" appear to be useful idiots to me. Hopefully I'm wrong...
    Last edited by ronpaulhawaii; 08-12-2016 at 10:23 PM.
    Don't let others get you down. Not naysayers, not pretenders, not appeasers, not opportunists; none of em.

    What others do pales beside what YOU do.

    Press on! - The r3VOLution continues...

    "Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence.Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race."

    ~ C.Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulhawaii View Post
    The thought-leader class - Media/Clergy/Academia -
    LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    I didn't write the articles.
    no but you definitely spam us here with articles not written by you.
    "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it; no constitution, no law, no court can even do much to help it."
    James Madison

    "It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." - Samuel Adams



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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    As someone who has felt like the media has been trying to manipulate me for several decades - even the fact that they hate Trump so much, which makes me like Trump more, feels like a manipulation by the media to make me like Trump. But man, that would be a pretty elaborate hoax, and I'm not quite sure what purpose it would serve. At first I thought it was about Rand, but Rand dropped a long time ago and they are still going full throttle with this whole thing so I can't quite put my finger on it.
    How about, politics aside, they don't want a psychotic in control of the nuclear codes?



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    Quote Originally Posted by puppetmaster View Post
    no but you definitely spam us here with articles not written by you.
    It's not spam, I regularly engage in discussions in threads I create.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    How about, politics aside, they don't want a psychotic in control of the nuclear codes?
    The President doesn't, not without the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    The President doesn't, not without the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
    Oh good, the President's a psychotic, but as long as the chain of command operates as intended, we won't all be vaporized.

    ...I feel better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Oh good, the President's a psychotic, but as long as the chain of command operates as intended, we won't all be vaporized.

    ...I feel better.
    "I feel better!"

    There is no spoon.

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    Appearances Can Be Deceiving

    It bears repeating that just because a person appears to be "antiestablishment," it doesn't mean that that person is also "pro-liberty."

    In my opinion, Trump is not antiestablishment; he just wants to create another kind of establishment. He's also at war...with himself:



    And, the most antiestablishment statesman to ever sit in a seat of Congress has exposed Trump for who is really is--an authoritarian:

    "Then David said to the Philistine, 'You come to me with a sword, a spear, and a javelin, but I come to you in the name of Yahweh of hosts, the God of the battle lines of Israel, Whom you have reproached.'" - 1 Samuel 17:45

    "May future generations look back on our work and say that these were men and women who, in moment of great crisis, stood up to their politicians, the opinion-makers, and the Establishment, and saved their country." - Dr. Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Oh good, the President's a psychotic, but as long as the chain of command operates as intended, we won't all be vaporized.

    ...I feel better.
    Nobody has perfect mental health, but I highly question whether Donald Trump's brand of mental health is worse than the establishment. I wasn't too happy with his Gitmo response recently, and I'm still not voting for him (leaning towards GJ) but overall he seems more coherent than Mitt Romney/Obama/McCain/Clinton/Bush/neocons/socialists.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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