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    Exclamation Venezuela issues "forced farm work" decree

    Venezuela's new decree: Forced farm work for citizens

    http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/29/news...ee-farm-labor/

    A new decree by Venezuela's government could make its citizens work on farms to tackle the country's severe food shortages.

    That "effectively amounts to forced labor," according to Amnesty International, which derided the decree as "unlawful."

    In a vaguely-worded decree, Venezuelan officials indicated that public and private sector employees could be forced to work in the country's fields for at least 60-day periods, which may be extended "if circumstances merit."

    "Trying to tackle Venezuela's severe food shortages by forcing people to work the fields is like trying to fix a broken leg with a band aid," Erika Guevara Rosas, Americas' Director at Amnesty International, said in a statement.

    President Nicolas Maduro is using his executive powers to declare a state of economic emergency. By using a decree, he can legally circumvent Venezuela's opposition-led National Assembly -- the Congress -- which is staunchly against all of Maduro's actions.

    According to the decree from July 22, workers would still be paid their normal salary by the government and they can't be fired from their actual job.

    It is a potent sign of tough conditions in Venezuela, which is grappling with the lack of basic food items like milk, eggs and bread. People wait hours in lines outsides supermarkets to buy groceries and often only see empty shelves.

    Venezuela once had a robust agricultural sector. But under its socialist regime, which began with Hugo Chavez in 1999, the oil-rich country started importing more food and invested less in agriculture. Nearly all of Venezuela's revenue from exports comes from oil.

    With oil prices down to about $41 a barrel from over $100 about two years ago, Venezuela has quickly run out of cash and can't pay for its imports of food, toilet paper and other necessities. Neglected farms are now being asked to pick up the slack.

    Maduro's actions are very similar to a strategy the communist Cuban government used in the 1960s when it sought to recover sugar production after it declined sharply following the U.S. embargo on Cuban goods. It forced Cubans to work on sugar farms to cultivate the island's key commodity.

    It's important to note that Maduro has issued decrees before and they often just languish. In January, his government published a decree that put in place mechanisms to restrict the access and movements to the money in the accounts. In other words, a kind of bank freeze. However, that hasn't happened yet.

    The National Assembly is expected to discuss the decree on Tuesday. But it would largely be symbolic: under Venezuelan law, the Assembly can't strike down a decree.

    This latest action by Maduro may also be a sign that at least one other leader may be calling the shots on this issue. Earlier in July, Maduro appointed one of the country's defense ministers, Vladimir Padrino, as the leader of a team that would control the country's food supply and distribution.

    It's powerful role, especially at a time of such scarcity in Venezuela.

    "The power handed to Padrino in this program is extraordinary, in our view, and may signal that President Maduro is trying to increase support from the military amid a deepening social and economic crisis," Sebastian Rondeau, an economist at Bank of America, wrote in a research note.

    Venezuela is the world's worst economy, according to the IMF. It's expected to shrink 10% this year and inflation is projected to rise over 700%. Beyond food shortages, hospitals are low on supplies, causing many patients to go untreated and some to die.

    The country's electoral authorities are still reviewing the petition, which Maduro strongly opposes.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 07-29-2016 at 11:48 PM.
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    Been jacked up for awhile there . I wonder what a dozen eggs is bringing ?
    Last edited by oyarde; 07-30-2016 at 10:27 AM.

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    All.slaves now.
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    Other than degree, in what way is this fatwa any different than the millions of similar decrees and fatwas we live under and jump through hoops to comply with here in the land of the free?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Other than degree, in what way is this fatwa any different than the millions of similar decrees and fatwas we live under and jump through hoops to comply with here in the land of the free?
    Fawm work! WORK!

    WTF dude?

    Dem folks all bee's slaves now, workinz foe da man....

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    Venezuela is an embarrassment to human dignity. Has been for a long time. But now they're going full retard.
    "Like an army falling, one by one by one" - Linkin Park

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    Shortly after I posted this remark...this came across the wire:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...ile-citizens-s

    "Nothing describes socialism more aptly than baking a 4 feet tall cake weighing 90 kilos for Hugo Chavez’s birthday (a dead man) while the rest of the country starves, cannot find basic necessities"

    The cake cost.... 100,000 USD.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    Venezuela is an embarrassment to human dignity. Has been for a long time. But now they're going full retard.
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    Venezuela the New North Korea without the Labor camps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Other than degree, in what way is this fatwa any different than the millions of similar decrees and fatwas we live under and jump through hoops to comply with here in the land of the free?
    It isn't.
    There is no spoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    90 kilos
    The cake cost.... 100,000 USD.
    Lets go out on a limb here and really push the envelope, a Dunkin Heinz cake mix weighs say 1 pound when mixed with egg/oil and water it's actually less than that, then let's value that $2.00 cake mix at $20.00.......180x20=$3,600.00 now lets add in say $1500.00 for exorbitantly priced frosting we're up to $5,100.00, how about dusting the whole cake with gold lief? Add say another $7,500.00......Now let's pay some broke Venezuelans, 5 of them $1,000.00 each for a days labor to bake and frost the damn thing...

    Math time;

    $5,100.00
    $7,500.00
    $5,000.00
    __________________

    $17,600.00 invested in an exorbitantly priced cake for a dead communist...

    Where in the Sam Hell did the rest of the $100k go?

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    Awesome plan. Let's put starving people in the food distribution process. That way, we will have to hire soldiers to guard the fields and supply chain. It is an economic win/win as far as the government can see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Lets go out on a limb here and really push the envelope, a Dunkin Heinz cake mix weighs say 1 pound when mixed with egg/oil and water it's actually less than that, then let's value that $2.00 cake mix at $20.00.......180x20=$3,600.00 now lets add in say $1500.00 for exorbitantly priced frosting we're up to $5,100.00, how about dusting the whole cake with gold lief? Add say another $7,500.00......Now let's pay some broke Venezuelans, 5 of them $1,000.00 each for a days labor to bake and frost the damn thing...

    Math time;

    $5,100.00
    $7,500.00
    $5,000.00
    __________________

    $17,600.00 invested in an exorbitantly priced cake for a dead communist...

    Where in the Sam Hell did the rest of the $100k go?
    Was just about to comment on this. I saw the cake in question, I looked at the ingredient and there is no way in hell the cake cost $100k. I think someone is trying to put out propaganda about the govt. My guess is the same people that are not putting sanction on the country in an attempt to get the oil into private hands.

    Look at the ingredients used and just imagine every item cost 10x the regular cost because of scarcity and such and see if your calculation is close to 30K. 30k because food ingredient is usually about only 30% of the final cost of a meal.

    720 eggs
    23 kilos of butter
    90 kilos of flour
    90 kilos of sugar
    44 gallons of milk
    Last edited by juleswin; 07-30-2016 at 10:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Lets go out on a limb here and really push the envelope, a Dunkin Heinz cake mix weighs say 1 pound when mixed with egg/oil and water it's actually less than that, then let's value that $2.00 cake mix at $20.00.......180x20=$3,600.00 now lets add in say $1500.00 for exorbitantly priced frosting we're up to $5,100.00, how about dusting the whole cake with gold lief? Add say another $7,500.00......Now let's pay some broke Venezuelans, 5 of them $1,000.00 each for a days labor to bake and frost the damn thing...

    Math time;

    $5,100.00
    $7,500.00
    $5,000.00
    __________________

    $17,600.00 invested in an exorbitantly priced cake for a dead communist...

    Where in the Sam Hell did the rest of the $100k go?
    probably peso....or whatever their currency is and it can't be worth much
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    Quote Originally Posted by puppetmaster View Post
    probably peso....or whatever their currency is and it can't be worth much
    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post

    The cake cost.... 100,000 USD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    The cake cost 100k US Dollars...The Bolivar cost numerically was much higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    The cake cost 100k US Dollars...The Bolivar cost numerically was much higher.
    Somebody, or several somebodies, made one helluva profit...


    [edit]

    Were the Clintons involved?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    Shortly after I posted this remark...this came across the wire:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...ile-citizens-s

    "Nothing describes socialism more aptly than baking a 4 feet tall cake weighing 90 kilos for Hugo Chavez’s birthday (a dead man) while the rest of the country starves, cannot find basic necessities"

    The cake cost.... 100,000 USD.
    I will sell them 4 foot cakes for the departed for 20k ea

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    Cakes are very expensive. Luxury cakes are insanely expensive. Luxury cakes that weigh as much as a fairly large man in a highly corrupt nation are criminally expensive.

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Somebody, or several somebodies, made one helluva profit...


    [edit]

    Were the Clintons involved?
    "Like an army falling, one by one by one" - Linkin Park

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    Cakes are very expensive. Luxury cakes are insanely expensive. Luxury cakes that weigh as much as a fairly large man in a highly corrupt nation are criminally expensive.
    Hence the Clinton addendum...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    lol gotta love socialism. Government gets involved and prices go ballistic and supply disappears
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    Somebody get some interviews of the govt workers on the farm , LOL

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    If the same thing happened under Hilary or Obama their drones would support it en masse. F**King sheep

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    Looks like it's going swell.



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    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
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    http://www.clairewolfe.com/blog/2016...s-out-of-food/

    From Cracked and Venezuela: Five apocalyptic realities in a country that’s out of food.

    Mangos. They’re nearly to the point of killing each other over mango trees. And it came to this so quickly.
    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
    --Albert J. Nock

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Been jacked up for awhile there . I wonder what a dozen eggs is bringing ?
    Two-dozen blowjobs.
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    Can you say "Cambodia"?

    Can you say "Khmer Rouge"?

    Can you say "Killing fields"?

    Yet another spectacular victory for global socialism.

    Is nobody paying attention anymore?
    freedomisobvious.blogspot.com

    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Other than degree, in what way is this fatwa any different than the millions of similar decrees and fatwas we live under and jump through hoops to comply with here in the land of the free?
    Sadly, you are on the money. Difference in degree is meaningless. We are all slaves now. We should put a stop to that. Do not - REPEAT - do not hold your breath.
    freedomisobvious.blogspot.com

    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Lets go out on a limb here and really push the envelope, a Dunkin Heinz cake mix weighs say 1 pound when mixed with egg/oil and water it's actually less than that, then let's value that $2.00 cake mix at $20.00.......180x20=$3,600.00 now lets add in say $1500.00 for exorbitantly priced frosting we're up to $5,100.00, how about dusting the whole cake with gold lief? Add say another $7,500.00......Now let's pay some broke Venezuelans, 5 of them $1,000.00 each for a days labor to bake and frost the damn thing...

    Math time;

    $5,100.00
    $7,500.00
    $5,000.00
    __________________

    $17,600.00 invested in an exorbitantly priced cake for a dead communist...

    Where in the Sam Hell did the rest of the $100k go?
    Head. Lots of head.

    Oh, and coke. Gotta have tons of coke, too.
    freedomisobvious.blogspot.com

    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Been jacked up for awhile there . I wonder what a dozen eggs is bringing ?
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Two-dozen blowjobs.
    A Dozen Eggs Cost $150 As Hyperinflation Horrors Hit Socialist Utopia
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...-socialist-uto

    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Can you say "Cambodia"?

    Can you say "Khmer Rouge"?

    Can you say "Killing fields"?

    Yet another spectacular victory for global socialism.

    Is nobody paying attention anymore?
    Nope! Not even here. It's all culture wars now. Nothing of any importance matters at all; not the crushing debt, not the endless wars, not the police state, not the monstrous monetary insanity of the Federal Reserve, not the bureaucratic cancer, and not the steady nullification of what little liberty remains.

    It'll be good when Americans are scrounging for food like dogs Venezuelans every day.
    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
    --Albert J. Nock

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