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    Rep. Thomas Massie: Trump is 'better than 90 percent of the congressmen I serve with'

    Rep. Thomas Massie supported Rand Paul in the primary and is considered a star for the "liberty movement." I spoke with him at the Republican National Convention. Here's some of our conversation:

    How do you plan on voting in November?

    I'll be voting for Trump. ... I'm more of a "glass is half-full" than a "glass is half-empty" kind of person.

    In what ways is Trump half-full?

    Well, he's better than 90 percent of the congressmen I serve with. ... I'm serious.

    No. 1, he's not owned. Nobody owns him. That rules out a lot of them.

    No. 2, he's got real business experience. If I see another candidate that runs as a small businessman that was a lawyer or a doctor that had, like, a personal practice, I'm gonna scream. Because they never had a board of directors, they never had a balance sheet, they never had marketing, they never had product development, I mean they never had a real business, per se.

    He's done that, mutiple times.
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    sigh...



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    Quote Originally Posted by CaseyJones View Post

    sigh...
    Indeed.

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    well to be fair Trump did very well in his district

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    Can't argue with that. Congress has set such a low bar that even a typical garage door repairman is better than 90% of corrupt turds we elect to... represent us?
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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Indeed.
    indeed, indeed
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    Thomas Massie Gives Glowing Endorsement To Trump

    Smart man and arguably the best congressman in the US.


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    Oh please be true this would be hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhandorder View Post
    Oh please be true this would be hilarious.
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/re...rticle/2597331

    How do you plan on voting in November?

    I'll be voting for Trump. ... I'm more of a "glass is half-full" than a "glass is half-empty" kind of person.

    In what ways is Trump half-full?

    Well, he's better than 90 percent of the congressmen I serve with. ... I'm serious.

    No. 1, he's not owned. Nobody owns him. That rules out a lot of them.

    No. 2, he's got real business experience. If I see another candidate that runs as a small businessman that was a lawyer or a doctor that had, like, a personal practice, I'm gonna scream. Because they never had a board of directors, they never had a balance sheet, they never had marketing, they never had product development, I mean they never had a real business, per se.

    He's done that, mutiple times.

    Do you think Trump could hurt the GOP and the cause of liberty?

    He might be the only one of the 17 that ran in this primary that could win in the general election. Numerically, with the message we had, we were almost stillborn going into the general with the electoral map that exists. Trump has changed the map. Pennsylvania's in play. Michigan's in play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Thomas Massie Gives Glowing Endorsement To Trump
    "Well, he's better than 90 percent of [this wretched hive of scum and villainy] ... I'm serious." -- Thomas Massie

    You have a bizarre notion of what a "glowing" endorsement is ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    You have a bizarre notion of what a "glowing" endorsement is ...
    I agree with the banana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    "Well, he's better than 90 percent of [this wretched hive of scum and villainy] ... I'm serious." -- Thomas Massie

    You have a bizarre notion of what a "glowing" endorsement is ...
    Oh come on...

    I'm more of a "glass is half-full" than a "glass is half-empty" kind of person.
    That's glowing! Absolutely radioactive!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Oh come on...

    I'm more of a "glass is half-full" than a "glass is half-empty" kind of person.
    That's glowing! Absolutely radioactive!
    Depends on what's in the glass...
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    I agree with the banana.
    He's usually right, but he looks really weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    He's usually right, but he looks really weird.
    Not weird. There's something about a banana that I find appealing.
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    He might be the only one of the 17 that ran in this primary that could win in the general election. Numerically, with the message we had, we were almost stillborn going into the general with the electoral map that exists. Trump has changed the map. Pennsylvania's in play. Michigan's in play.
    Probably right, Jeb would have been a guaranteed loser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Probably right, Jeb would have been a guaranteed loser.
    Rand would have problems in the Rust Belt as well. Trump may be the only one who could actually pull this off. His celebrity and blue collar policies placed these states into play.



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    Trump even has bankruptcy experience.

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    glass is half-full
    Of Reince Priebus wizz!
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    Massie is a true patriot,, this a Great endorsement
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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Rand would have problems in the Rust Belt as well. Trump may be the only one who could actually pull this off. His celebrity and blue collar policies placed these states into play.
    Rand could have easily won Indiana and Ohio against Hillary. Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania would be close.
    Stop believing stupid things

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    Massie nailed it. I wish Rand and Amish had similar statements. Trump was my 2nd choice

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    ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    He's usually right, but he looks really weird.
    Hey!! Don't you call me that, dammit!

    (Only "usually" right ... hmmph!! ...)



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    I guess I'm the only one who thinks his comments about small business people are pretty short-sighted. I'd argue that small business is where the true business is in this country. I'd take a small business person any day of the week over a corporate shill.

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    Is this for real? Surprising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyExtremist View Post
    I guess I'm the only one who thinks his comments about small business people are pretty short-sighted. I'd argue that small business is where the true business is in this country. I'd take a small business person any day of the week over a corporate shill.
    His point was that he's sick of lawyers and doctors calling themselves small business men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    His point was that he's sick of lawyers and doctors calling themselves small business men.
    I get the notion that big-time law partners for big firms and specialist doctors working for large hospitals not being small business folks, but a rural area lawyer or doctor with a small private/family practice is very much a small business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyExtremist View Post
    I guess I'm the only one who thinks his comments about small business people are pretty short-sighted. I'd argue that small business is where the true business is in this country. I'd take a small business person any day of the week over a corporate shill.
    I had the same reaction immediately upon reading what he said - but then I realized that that is not at all what he actually meant.

    In addition to what William Tell said ("he's sick of lawyers and doctors calling themselves small business men"), his point is that even though many in Congress might call themselves "businessmen" (for whatever reasons), they don't really have any idea what they are talking about - and thus, they don't have any real understanding of the implications and consequences of the legislation they pass. That is what he was trying to get at with his references to boards of directors, balance sheets, marketing, and product development as being elements of "real business."

    Though he certainly could have said it better, I don't at all think he was dissing genuine "small businessmen" as not being "real businessmen" ...
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    Oh no, does this mean Massie is going to lose his subforum
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    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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