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    Report: Trump camp told Kasich he could run foreign and domestic policy as VP

    Donald Trump doesn’t want to be president — or, at least, he doesn’t want the responsibility.

    That’s the way things look after the New York Times reported Wednesday that Donald Trump Jr. offered Gov. John Kasich (R-OH) the opportunity to be "the most powerful vice president in history" back in May.

    According to a Kasich adviser who spoke with the Times, the younger Trump said that Kasich would be in charge of both domestic and foreign policy. And what would Donald Sr. be in charge of? "Making America great again."

    People have long debated Trump’s rationale for running for president. Some think it’s a way for him to prove the "haters and losers" wrong. Some think he’s power hungry. His supporters believe he genuinely wants to lead the country in a new direction. But whether he’s willing to do the actual work if the job becomes his is the real question.

    Vox’s Matt Yglesias wrote about Donald Trump’s "profound laziness" following the Melania plagiarism debacle:

    Plagiarism offers a window into a different aspect of Trump, one that isn’t integral to his appeal. Trump is a phony. And a lazy one at that. He refuses to put in the work, and if he becomes president the consequences are likely to be disastrous and unpredictable.

    Just ask his wife who stood up on a nationally broadcast primetime telecast to vouch for his integrity and decency, and turns out to have been set up for humiliation because Trump couldn’t be bothered to build the kind of professional presidential campaign that would equip Melania Trump with a decent speech.

    Offering Kasich control of both foreign and domestic policy would leave Trump with little responsibility. He would be a figurehead, so to speak, but he would have the last word over any proposals thrown his way.

    According to the Times, that’s pretty much how Trump went about deciding on a running mate anyway: He was presented with a list of 16 names, "perused it and, without suggesting any additions or deletions, nodded that it looked fine." After letting others do the hard work during the vetting process, Trump simply wanted to make the final decision.

    Ultimately Kasich said no to the offer and refused to endorse Trump or attend the Republican National Convention in his own state. It’s not clear if Trump offered Pence the same powerful role he offered to Kasich.

    Come November, should Trump secure the presidency, we’ll see if he really wants to lead — or if he’s simply in it for the title.
    http://www.vox.com/2016/7/20/1223538...st-powerful-vp
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    Donald Trump's puzzling Ohio convention strategy

    This is not the convention Donald Trump needed to have in Ohio.

    The GOP nominee entered the swing state tied with Democrat Hillary Clinton. His opportunity: a chance to win over skeptical suburban Buckeyes who had supported Ohio Gov. John Kasich for president but don’t want to back Clinton. He had four days of nonstop media coverage to woo them in whatever way his campaign saw fit.

    Instead, before the work day started on Monday morning, Trump’s campaign chief lit into Kasich. Later, Trump himself joined in. Day after day, it didn’t stop.

    Trump is scheduled to speak Thursday during a program his campaign has themed "Make America one again," something his Ohio effort desperately needs to see.

    But as the convention opened Monday night, Ohio’s GOP leaders already were deflated. By midweek, GOP operatives who had agreed to help with Trump’s Ohio efforts were reconsidering. Trump’s rift with Kasich had become a feud, spilling over into his campaign’s relationship with Ohio Republicans and calling into question his ability to carry the ultimate GOP swing state.

    “We’re dealing with a presidential candidate that is openly hostile toward the governor,” Matt Borges, chairman of the Ohio Republican Party, told The Enquirer. “If he continues to do this, he’s going to lose.”

    Why that is entirely plausible: This is Ohio, the swing state every Republican president has needed to reach the White House. We say it a lot, but there’s a reason.

    Regardless of how Trump and his aides feel about Ohio’s GOP officials, the fact remains: They need Ohio and its 18 electoral votes if they want to put Trump in the White House. They are alienating a lot of people who could help them...

    ...To some, this whole thing is Kasich’s fault. The Ohio governor has declined to endorse his former presidential rival and participate in the GOP convention. Rather than stay away, he has held his own events with delegates from around the country, while advisers talk of a need to keep his name in Republicans’ minds in case he runs for president again. To get that chance, Trump would have to lose. It is awkward.

    Kasich also arrived at the party in his honor Tuesday by ascending an escalator at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, intentionally evoking Trump’s descending an escalator at Trump Tower in New York City to launch his campaign. He also recorded a video message about the right way to make America great. He also gave speeches criticizing most of Trump’s stances.

    But Trump and his advisers knew Kasich would do most of this. He had talked about it for weeks. So why did Paul Manafort, the experienced campaign aide hired to bring order and discipline to Trump’s campaign, choose to open the convention week with repeated criticism of Kasich? Why not focus on … Trump?

    ...But in many ways, it doesn’t matter what Trump says Thursday night. He’s already said too much this week. He can’t fix the rift with Ohio leaders with one speech.

    Will Trump risk making it worse and use his speech to attack Kasich? After all, he has already called into “The O’Reilly Factor” – interrupting coverage of his own convention – to criticize Kasich, and tweeted about him upon his arrival in Ohio Wednesday.

    ...To come out on the first day of the convention and blast our leader is incomprehensible,” Gonidakis said. “For a man who's built an empire, he truly lacks political common sense. He's almost daring the Ohio delegation to walk away, metaphorically.

    “John Kasich is our leader, and we are going to stand beside and behind him all the way. We can support both Trump and Kasich, but he is forcing our hand.”
    http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news...tegy/87288208/
    We will be known forever by the tracks we leave. - Dakota


    Go Forward With Courage

    When you are in doubt, be still, and wait;
    when doubt no longer exists for you, then go forward with courage.
    So long as mists envelop you, be still;
    be still until the sunlight pours through and dispels the mists
    -- as it surely will.
    Then act with courage.

    Ponca Chief White Eagle

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    The Trump campaign seems to be getting increasingly desperate and somewhat confused about why their threats and demands aren't getting these people on board the Trump Train.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Kasich: Trump Jr. floated VP offer

    Ohio Gov. John Kasich still isn’t ready to support Donald Trump for president — but he confirmed that one of his aides was contacted about possibly joining the real estate mogul’s ticket as his vice president.

    Kasich told CNN’s Jake Tapper that he didn’t receive a call himself. But he said one of his aides confirmed to him a New York Times report last month saying Donald Trump Jr. tried to entice Kasich with a position as the most powerful vice president in history — putting him in charge of all domestic and foreign policy — was accurate.

    “That’s what one of them has told me, yes,” Kasich told Tapper in an interview aired Sunday on “State of the Union.”

    The Trump campaign has previously denied the details of the Times’ report. When it was published late last month, Trump campaign spokesman Jason Miller told CNN “it’s completely ridiculous” and that an offer was never made. Trump Jr. also denied making such an offer.

    The Ohio governor, however, told Tapper he was never interested in serving as vice president.

    “I never considered it … I’d be the worst vice president. I have too many opinions,” said Kasich, the last Republican challenger left standing amid ahead of Trump’s nomination.

    Why he skipped the GOP convention

    Kasich raised controversy in some GOP circles by declining to attend the Republican National Convention — which was held in his home state — but he’s at peace with the decision, which he told Tapper was about “manners.”

    “If I wasn’t prepared to go there and get up and endorse a nominee, I just thought it was inappropriate to go into that convention hall,” Kasich said. “Some people are really furious with me about that. But I did what I thought I needed to do.”

    Added Kasich: “Believe it or not, I wanted to show respect to the nominee.”

    How Trump could earn his vote

    Kasich said that response to his decision to not endorse Trump has been mixed and that he sometimes gets “a little grief over this.”

    “I’ve had a lot of people pound on me about you need to do this, you need to do this, this is about the party,” Kasich said. “And I love my party, but I love my country. And I have to be true to myself. I wish that I could be fully enthusiastic. I can’t be.”

    He refused to say whether he would vote for Trump.

    “I don’t know what’s going to happen at the end,” he told Tapper, but made it clear he will not be voting for Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.

    When asked if Trump could do anything to earn his vote, Kasich said: “There’s so much water over the dam now, it’s become increasingly difficult. But I want, you know, unifying.”

    ‘A little bizarre’

    Kasich has long called for the party to unify, and expressed displeasure with Trump’s hesitation to endorse several prominent establishment GOP candidates, notably House Speaker Paul Ryan, Arizona Sen. John McCain and New Hampshire Sen. Kelly Ayotte. (Trump eventually endorsed all three Friday night, several hours after the interview was taped.)

    Kasich called the initial decision not to endorse “a little bizarre” and took issue with Trump’s treatment of McCain.

    “As far as I’m concerned, McCain shouldn’t even have to run for election in the Senate,” Kasich said. “He ought to be in the Senate as long as he wants to be.”

    To that end, Kasich said he would help McCain’s re-election fight.

    “I don’t care what it takes,” he said.

    Can Trump win Ohio?

    As for Trump winning the Buckeye State, Kasich isn’t as optimistic, saying he believes the nominee will do well in the state but not well enough to carry it.

    “He’s going to win parts of Ohio where people are really hurting and where people of both parties have failed to fix our education system,” he said. “But I still think it’s difficult if you are dividing to be able to win in Ohio. I think it’s really, really difficult.”

    The black hole

    The Ohio governor also said he watched the Democratic convention speech delivered by Khizr Khan, the grieving father of a fallen Muslim US soldier, who attacked Trump from the dais, prompting Trump to engage in a multi-day feud with the Khan family. Kasich recalled his time spent comforting those killed overseas, saying he meets frequently with Ohio families who lose a child in combat and that is his job to comfort them.

    “I’ve seen the black hole. I’ve had the deep mourning and the pain,” Kasich said, referring to the loss of his parents, who were killed by a drunk driver. “But here’s what I know: I believe the Scripture when it says those who give up their life, or serve someone else, will wear a big crown. That their service is marked in the book of life, never to be erased.”
    http://wtvr.com/2016/08/07/kasich-tr...ated-vp-offer/
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    the younger Trump said that Kasich would be in charge of both domestic and foreign policy.
    In other words, Kasich would be in charge of everything.



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