Good grief, seriously?Originally Posted by juleswin
Because they do not $#@!ing care.
They know they are fully protected, that pretty much anything they do to us, including robbery and murder, will be glossed over, swept under the rug and covered up.
"$#@! you, that's why. Now, move along, maggot"
Yet, the race-bating, cop loving ones get to stay on the general forums. I guess as that poster said earlier... it must be a conspiracy...
A sense of danger gives birth to fear. And fear is the time-honored cross for the crucifixion of liberty.
Good line!
A sense of danger gives birth to fear. And fear is the time-honored cross for the crucifixion of liberty.
Of course when an cops accidently shoots a black person, three times, while aiming at an autistic person with a toy truck......we need more responsible reporting. Dam it!
Three times?
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Yeah the cop fired three rounds.
I think he had his M4 on 3 round burst though. Silly cop wanting to play Rambo
"Self conquest is the greatest of all victories." - Plato
Unless the initial story changed, I believe dean might have meant "shot at" and not just "shot."
Genuine, willful, aggressive ignorance is the one sure way to tick me off. I wish I could say you were trolling. I know better, and it's just sad.
Yup -- "negligent discharge" is what it will be played up as, whether intentional or not. The worse this cop will face is a firing/forced resignation -- then it will be onto the next cop shop for him.
I would hope (of course we all know it wont happen) that people would realize that the cop decided he needed his department issued assault rifle to back up his fellow cops, to talk to one extremely compliant man with his hands high in the air, and an obviously severe autistic young man. Not only did he think he needed that extra firepower, but opted out of controlled fire semi-auto, and instead went straight to 3 round burst.
"Self conquest is the greatest of all victories." - Plato
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Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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Cop Who Shot Innocent Unarmed Therapist to “Protect” Him was “Officer of the Month” — Twice
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/off...GvzxUhbt8Yr.99
Fifteen minutes later, without provocation or explanation, Aledda fired three shots, hitting Kinsey in the leg. Stunned in disbelief, Kinsey says he asked the officer, “Sir, why did you shoot me?”
(Amazing...AmeriKunts would have apologized for stepping on an SS officer's boots at Treblinka while getting shoved into the "shower". - AF)
Yes. We are at that point.
And would have called them "sir".
Police Chief Says Investigators Were More Concerned About Clearing Cop Who Shot Behavioral Specialist Trying to Help Autistic Man Than Conducting an Impartial Investigation
http://reason.com/blog/2017/04/07/po...ators-were-mor
Also said the department was plagued by infighting and lax training in an interview with investigators audio of which was obtained by a local newspaper.
Ed Krayewski|Apr. 7, 2017 3:40 pm
screenshotscreenshotNorth Miami Police Chief Gary Eugene, who took office less than a week before a police officer shot an unarmed behavioral specialist trying to help them with an autistic man, told investigators the crime scene was chaotic and described a dysfunctional department plagued by infighting and lax training and investigators on the scene more interested in clearing the cop than conducting an impartial investigation, the New Miami Times reports. Meanwhile, an attorney for a police commander suspended after being accused of lying about whether he was on the scene but later cleared, said the city had to "clean house" in the department.
The police chief also told investigators, in audio obtained by the New Miami Times, that the cop, Jonathan Aledda was told by another officer that the autistic man had a toy in his hand, and to stand by and not do anything, before he shot the behavioral specialist, Charles Kinsey, anyway. At the time, the police union defended the shooting of Kinsey by saying Aledda had aimed at the autistic man, who they claimed police thought had a gun. Eugene's account contradicts those claims, and illustrates the inappropriate role police unions play in thwarting transparency and accountability in the public institutions of policing.
Eugene also contends that Hollant was suspended not because he was suspected of lying but because of a vendetta by the assistant police chief, saying Hollant was pressured to change his account of events to help Aledda. "He talked to Emile prior to the suspension and told him... [by] not saying you saw the guy loading the gun, do you realize that information could have helped my officer?'", Eugene said according to the Times. "They were more concerned about clearing the officer of any wrongdoing than actually getting any impartial investigation."
The commander was suspended without pay after authorities accused him of lying about whether he was on the scene when Aledda shot Kinsey. Aledda, meanwhile, was suspended with pay, the New Miami Times reports. The state's attorney's office said it did not find any evidence Hollant misled investigators, and he is now on paid leave until the investigation into the shooting, now in its ninth month, concludes.
"The scene was a mess, to be honest with you," Eugene said, according to audio of an interview with investigators obtained by the Times. "People were walking all over the place. Thank God he did not die. I realized I have a problem with the training of my staff. We're talking about some 15- or 16-year veterans, but in North Miami, a 15- or 16-year veteran may have less experience than a two-year cop in Miami."
Eugene said he was concerned the infighting was so intense it would endanger officer safety on the streets. "I'm afraid one of them will get shot, for God's sake, and someone will call for backup and they'll say, 'I'm not going,' just to tell you how much the animosity is," Eugene said, according to the Times.
A spokesperson for the state's attorney told the Times the office was "very close" to deciding whether to charge Aledda.
Well, it's only been nine months. And it's just not really that high of a priority.
Felony Charges Dismissed Against Miami Cop Who Shot Black Caregiver With Arms Raised
A North Miami police officer who shot the caregiver of an autistic man in distress, even though the caregiver was lying on the ground with his hands raised in the air, has been convicted on a misdemeanor charge of culpable negligence but has escaped a felony conviction. A jury on Monday dismissed two attempted manslaughter charges against the officer, according to the Miami Herald.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...3VO7bnryfVR8R4
I want to note that this P.O.S.'s intended target was the autistic man. And, with a rifle, from 50 yrds. away he missed his intended target and hit the caregiver. This should dispel any belief that pigs are more 'highly trained' than a citizen and therefore should be the only ones to have guns. Christ, with a rifle at 50 yrds. I don't miss a stationary target. With iron sights. $#@! these cop loving courts and juries.
When I was 20 years old I could hit a stationary man in the eye at 250 yards with open sights , under fire and never miss , but I was a professional soldier. Cops should not even have rifles , nor should they be shooting medics and handicapped or be excused for it .
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h/t @jmdrake (from another thread):(ETA: also HERE)
Florida appeals court overturns conviction of Miami police officer who shot autistic man’s caretaker
https://localnews8.com/news/2022/02/...ans-caretaker/
Amanda Musa (11 February 2022)
A South Florida appeals court Wednesday overturned the conviction of a former North Miami Police Department officer who was found guilty of negligence for shooting an autistic man’s caretaker in 2016, court documents show.
Florida’s Third District Court of Appeal overturned a “conviction for misdemeanor culpable negligence” for Jonathan Aledda after determining it was invalid because prosecutors did not allow testimony during a June 2019 trial from the SWAT commander who trained Aledda, the documents show.
In a statement emailed to CNN, Florida State Attorney Katherine Fernandez Rundle said the decision is “disappointing to all who believed that this shooting incident was unnecessary and incorrect.” The office may ask the appeals court for a re-hearing, the statement continued.
Eric Schwartzreich and Anthony Bruno, attorneys for Aledda, told CNN, “We look forward to the State dropping the charges or in the alternative to Mr. Aledda being found not guilty.”
In July 2016, Aledda was one of 13 officers who responded to a call about a man with a gun, court documents show. When officers arrived, they encountered Arnaldo Rios-Soto, a man with severe developmental disabilities, and his caretaker Charles Kinsey in the middle of an intersection, according to court documents.
Rios-Soto was rocking back and forth and playing with a silver toy truck, court documents said. Kinsey told the first two officers who arrived that Rios-Soto had a toy. Aledda arrived sometime after that, and some officers on scene said it appeared the toy was a gun.
Aledda’s lawyers argued that he thought he was observing a hostage situation. He shot at Rios-Soto three times but missed, hitting Kinsey once, according to court documents. Kinsey was wounded in the hip.
“He took the shots because he believed that a hostage was in danger,” Schwartzreich and Bruno said in a statement.
Aledda is “elated by the appeals court decision” and wants to return to work as a law enforcement officer, Schwartzreich said.
CNN reached out to the North Miami Police Department for comment but did not hear back.
[...]
Aledda was charged in 2017 with two felony counts of attempted manslaughter with a deadly weapon, one misdemeanor count of culpable negligence for injuring Kinsey and one misdemeanor count of culpable negligence for endangering Rios-Soto, according to court documents.
In March 2019, a jury acquitted Aledda of the misdemeanor culpable negligence charge relating to Rios-Soto. However, a mistrial was declared because the jury could not reach a verdict for the remaining three charges, court documents show.
During a second trial in June 2019, Aledda was acquitted on the two attempted manslaughter counts but convicted of misdemeanor culpable negligence, according to court documents.
Last edited by Occam's Banana; 03-11-2022 at 11:50 PM.
Wait a second. The caregiver was black? And there were no mass "black lives matter" protests over this? You mean they didn't highlight the case of an innocent unarmed black man shot by a cop who didn't have a past that Candace Owens could dig up and rail against? Yeah.....that confirms my theory.
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