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    Cool Cruz just refused to endorse Trump

    heh...




    I can now simultaneously applaud Ted Cruz for standing up on principle while also slamming him for going back on his word
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    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    How could he do that to his best good friend?
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    He also promised to run in four years. Give it a rest, Ted. This nightmare really has no end.
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    A very similar message to Clint Eastwood at the '12 GOP Convention, who said "if you don't like them, don't vote for them". Millions didn't vote for Mitt.

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    Good for Cruz.

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    He entered the race to undermine and dilute Rand Paul and the liberty vote for his own aggrandizement. He is the lying conman pastor Bible Belt voters remember, and refused to vote for.
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    Down With Drumpf

    Thank you, Cruz.
    "Then David said to the Philistine, 'You come to me with a sword, a spear, and a javelin, but I come to you in the name of Yahweh of hosts, the God of the battle lines of Israel, Whom you have reproached.'" - 1 Samuel 17:45

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    Anyone else get the Ron Paul "Golden Rule" flashback?

    Ron Paul: I think we should follow the golden rule in foreign policy.
    GOP: BOOO!!!

    Cruz: You should vote your conscience.
    GOP: BOOO!!!


    Now, I'm no fan of Cruz but that crowd was just as bad as SC.
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    Good. When Trump loses badly, Cruz will be in a good position for 2020. I just hope we never get to see Sarah Palin and Cristie again after that historic loss.

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    Cruz's support at the convention went down because it's a closed bubble. His support outside the convention probably went up. The whole convention is staged to give the appearance of overwhelming support for trump.

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    I am by no means a supporter of Trump or Cruize (in fact I hate them both), but wasn't it Cruize lecturing Trump during one of the debates about not signing that pledge about supporting the eventual candidate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentBull View Post
    Good. When Trump loses badly, Cruz will be in a good position for 2020. I just hope we never get to see Sarah Palin and Cristie again after that historic loss.
    See, my hope is that Cruz jumped the shark. Rand did the right thing by not attending at all. He won't be tainted by the Trump stink in either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    See, my hope is that Cruz jumped the shark. Rand did the right thing by not attending at all. He won't be tainted by the Trump stink in either way.
    I agree about Rand. That was a good decision by him. He got to have it both ways. He can't be blamed for not supporting the nominee but at the same time he's not doing anything to help him either.

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    I agree about Rand. That was a good decision by him. He got to have it both ways. He can't be blamed for not supporting the nominee but at the same time he's not doing anything to help him either.

    And politically that's the way you're supposed to play it, which is why it was smart for him not to be there.



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    Quote Originally Posted by KEEF View Post
    I am by no means a supporter of Trump or Cruize (in fact I hate them both), but wasn't it Cruize lecturing Trump during one of the debates about not signing that pledge about supporting the eventual candidate?
    Technically, Cruz didn't do anything to break that pledge.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theocrat View Post
    Thank you, Cruz.
    Wow, dude. You badly need to do your homework.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Technically, Cruz didn't do anything to break that pledge.
    Yeah he did. But, hey, he's Lyin' Ted. A moniker well-deserved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Anyone else get the Ron Paul "Golden Rule" flashback?

    Ron Paul: I think we should follow the golden rule in foreign policy.
    GOP: BOOO!!!

    Cruz: You should vote your conscience.
    GOP: BOOO!!!


    Now, I'm no fan of Cruz but that crowd was just as bad as SC.
    They booed God last night as well.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentBull View Post
    Good. When Trump loses badly, Cruz will be in a good position for 2020. I just hope we never get to see Sarah Palin and Cristie again after that historic loss.
    Don't think so. He committed political suicide last night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    They booed God last night as well.
    When? I watched the whole thing and didn't see anything of the sort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Technically, Cruz didn't do anything to break that pledge.
    Technically, Hillary was cleared of all wrongdoing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peace&Freedom View Post
    Technically, Hillary was cleared of all wrongdoing.
    That's why the GOP get made fun of (by the voters they should be trying to attract) when the theme is supposed to be "Make America Work Again", but really it's 3 hours of chanting "lock her up!"
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    That's why the GOP get made fun of (by the voters they should be trying to attract) when the theme is supposed to be "Make America Work Again", but really it's 3 hours of chanting "lock her up!"
    It takes work to be a party of ideas. Being a party of demagogues is easier.
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    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    It takes work to be a party of ideas. Being a party of demagogues is easier.
    Yeah, no kidding. Three days of convention speakers and we have yet to hear a coherent policy message. I mean, what is the GOP planning on doing if they win?! Continue to go after Hillary!?! It seems like they've got nothing else.

    This is going to be very bad for them down-ballot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    I mean, what is the GOP planning on doing if they win?!
    Whatever they want. If your voters will line up to vote for a nominee with no qualifications and no policy ideas, then apparently you don't need to do anything to get their votes.


    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Continue to go after Hillary!?!
    Oh, undoubtedly. 12 Benghazi investigations obviously isn't enough, they'll continue to ride that pony forever. Hell, they pretty much dedicated the first day of the convention to it.
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    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Oh, undoubtedly. 12 Benghazi investigations obviously isn't enough, they'll continue to ride that pony forever. Hell, they pretty much dedicated the first day of the convention to it.
    And the second day... and the third day...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    It takes work to be a party of ideas. Being a party of demagogues is easier.
    Trying to micromanage everyone's lives isn't an idea. The dems have become a caricature of themselves. Even the republicans in their dilapidated state have conjured a more appealing message that runs in contrast to this general philosophy.
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