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    Tennessee Medical Office Stops Vaccines Because ‘They Cause Autism’

    July 13, 2016 · by Albert Hunter

    Franklin, TN – The Cool Springs Family Medical Center just informed its patients that it will no longer be administering vaccines. The amazing letter, posted on the medical facility’s website, gives 8 reasons for the move, including the links to autism, dangerous ingredients, and their agreement with Wakefield.

    We will no longer be administering Vaccines at Cool Springs Family Medicine (CSFM).

    How come?

    1. Because they can cause Autism – yes, I’ve had 15 years’ experience in taking care of ASD kids, that’s a lot of vaccine injury stories from moms. Don’t tell me that they are making it up or they are just reaching for an explanation, or that it was a coincidence or that they are just too stressed, or that they are uninformed. All of those arguments are stupid.

    Don’t quote the single study by the CDC that shows that MMR is not linked to Autism. One of the authors of that paper, Dr. Thompson, said that the data was falsified and the study manipulated. So, with this information and the lack of studies that prove the safety of combined vaccines, I can do no harm, so I’m out.

    2. Polysorbate 80, Aluminum, formaldehyde, animal DNA with viruses, and many other ingredients in vaccines, are not good to inject into babies. Think of cancer, and autoimmune disease.

    3. Epigenetics is a new science that explains exactly why, not every child is going to react the same way to vaccines, and sacrificing the few, for the many is not acceptable. Actually, if you understand the science, which many mothers with vaccine inured children do, you can see that it is actually many are at risk and are asked to be sacrificed for the few.

    4. We can do better. Right now, it is a whole lot cheaper to propagate a multi-million dollar campaign to promote vaccines and hide behind the vaccine injury protection act, than it is to develop a safe vaccine program.

    5. Gardasil? Are you kidding me? It is not safe. Just read the package insert and if you are still not convinced, those that developed cervical cancer or neuroimmune disorders or other complications from the vaccine would be glad to talk to you.

    6. Vaccine development began in earnest in the 1930’s. Genetics, Epigenetics, the role of environmental toxins on the immune system, is much more recent than that. Guess what? We know a lot more now. Isn’t it time to incorporate that knowledge into the development of safe vaccines?

    7. Dr. Andew Wakefield’s research was properly defended and vindicated 4 years ago. The Lancet paper stands: There is a link between the MMR vaccine and Autism.

    8. The argument that we will be thrust into the dark ages if we suspend the vaccine program is nonsense. There are many arguments against this, but, to make it simple, we are in the dark ages. We have a plague of autoimmune diseases including Autism. There is a plaque of Acquired Immune Dysfunction (ring a bell?).

    Listen, I know I have been a little tongue and cheek about this, but really, I could wax on for a long time on any one of the 8 points that I brought up, and I’m sure I could list a lot more. I am not going to do that in cyperspace, I am not going to engage in internet battles, but, just as I have always done, as is my responsibility as a Family Physician, I will be an advocate for each of my patients as best as I know how. Also, I will always continue to respect the informed choices my patients make.
    http://www.curediseases.info/breakin...-cause-autism/
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    Cool.....I would take my kids there.
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    Awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Does that make this story any less awesome?
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    He has since pulled that list of claims from his website.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...x-brigade.html

    Physician Hates Vaccines, Loves Colon Cleanses

    Dr. Daniel Kalb says his practice won’t administer vaccines anymore because they “aren’t safe.”

    A Tennessee doctor is refusing to administer vaccines to patients because—wait for it—“they can cause autism.”

    Dr. Daniel Kalb is a physician at Cool Springs Family Medicine (CSFM) in Franklin, TN, a practice that provides preventative care through “natural measures” like detoxes, colon cleanses, hyperbaric oxygen therapy, and ultraviolet light treatment. They also offer Botox.

    On May 31, Dr. Kalb wrote an eight-point list (that has since been removed from the CSFM website but can be found here) about why CSFM will not offer vaccines to patients, noting his 15 years of experience with upset mothers who’ve shared their “vaccine injury stories.”
    Yelp score says only half of those who rated him said they would recommend him to somebody else. 2.5 out of 5 stars. http://www.yelp.com/biz/cool-springs...icine-franklin
    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 07-19-2016 at 12:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    He has since pulled that list of claims from his website.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...x-brigade.html



    Yelp score says only half of those who rated him said they would recommend him to somebody else. 2.5 out of 5 stars. http://www.yelp.com/biz/cool-springs...icine-franklin
    forced to by the licensing thugs in the government. Yelp is a great source. Lol.....wait no it is not it is easy to manipulate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Yelp score says only half of those who rated him said they would recommend him to somebody else. 2.5 out of 5 stars. http://www.yelp.com/biz/cool-springs...icine-franklin
    Once again, you fail to read the $#@! you post about, sorta like the 28 pages.

    If you look at the reviews with comments, almost all are 5 stars - the ones that are one or two star almost all have the same complaint, and it is about the staff - the wait times - the paperwork, etc.. Only one person complained about the treatment they received, which they claimed was a misdiagnosis. Last time I went to a doctor, I got a misdiagnosis, and that was after I told him exactly what the issue was, he tried to say it was something else.. but at least I got some free muscle relaxers. But anyways, it's not uncommon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Does that make this story any less awesome?
    I think the title is written to make readers think of something a little bit more credible / official than a strip mall doctor's office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    I think the title is written to make readers think of something a little bit more credible / official than a strip mall doctor's office.
    Regardless. Having the courage to stand up against the establishment thinking makes them as big as the Empire State Building.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    I think the title is written to make readers think of something a little bit more credible / official than a strip mall doctor's office.
    Also does not present any evidence to support the claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    I think the title is written to make readers think of something a little bit more credible / official than a strip mall doctor's office.
    There are a lot of doctors and dentists etc. that Co-locate next to a strip Mall.
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    All right one more good doctor who does not want to sacrifice children to the Nazi eugenics agenda!

    I found a decent article on doctors against vaccine they are out there keep looking.

    http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/medica...s-be-silenced/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Also does not present any evidence to support the claim.
    Forty-nice doses to 69 doses given to a child whose brain and immune system is not full developed should be all the evidence one needs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Forty-nice doses to 69 doses given to a child whose brain and immune system is not full developed should be all the evidence one needs.
    That's not evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    That's not evidence.
    Yes-- it is called common sense based evidence. I know that is lacking in the conventional medical practices these days.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner



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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Yes-- it is called common sense based evidence. I know that is lacking in the conventional medical practices these days.
    It's more an expression than anything else. You could possibly reformulate it into a claim or something of the form "X says Y = Z". That might be evidence.
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    What percent of his patients did he give autism to by vaccinating them? What is his "common sense based" evidence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    I think the title is written to make readers think of something a little bit more credible / official than a strip mall doctor's office.

    That makes him less credible? Offices of doctors, dentists, lawyers, and other professionals are located in industrial parks, malls, and similar set-ups all across the country.

    One very common office is the older residential house that is converted to an office for a doctor, dentist, lawyer, etc. You see this in large and small towns alike.

    Oh yeah, you get a neg rep for this just because you are constantly trolling like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Also does not present any evidence to support the claim.

    What difference would it make to you? I have posted evidence time and time again, but you always ignore it. Instead of trolling and being a liberal contrarian on this site, maybe you should actually try to learn something. Neg rep.


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    Recent peer reviewed research connects vaccines to autism. This is not the almost 20 year old research of Wakefield that people harp on. Here are just two of the studies:

    "...children from the countries with the highest ASD prevalence appear to have the highest exposure to Al from vaccines; (ii) "the increase in exposure to Al adjuvants significantly correlates with the increase in ASD prevalence in the United States."

    "...a significant correlation exists between the amounts of Al administered to preschool children and the current prevalence of ASD in seven western countries..."

    http://omsj.org/reports/tomljenovic%202011.pdf





    "...the relationship between the proportion of children who received the recommended vaccines by age 2 years and the prevalence of autism (AUT) or speech or language impairment (SLI) in each U.S. state from 2001 and 2007 was determined."

    "A positive and statistically significant relationship was found: The higher the proportion of children receiving recommended vaccinations, the higher was the prevalence of AUT or SLI. A 1% increase in vaccination was associated with an additional 680 children having AUT or SLI."

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21623535
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    Zippy is more than welcome to my childrens' left over unused vaccines. I sure as hell am not putting any more vaccines into them, until they make them safe and green. These liberal protagonists repeatedly go after Wakefield's Lancet article and McCarthy's soft core porn, but these are the low hanging fruit. They won't touch the Hannah Polling or Bailey Banks court finding vaccines directly caused these two children (each diagnosed with autism) to have "autistic like behavior" (as if there is a damn difference). They won't touch the overwhelming medical consensus declaring vaccines as "unavoidably unsafe," is the whole reason the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Act was passed in the first place. They don't discuss the Thomas Verstraeten Scientific Review of Vaccine Safety Datalink Information in June 2000. Related to your cited medical studies you will get crickets. Most work in the medical profession somewhere, and have a cognitive bias. They wouldn't want to face themselves knowing the "social good" they believe themselves doing is causing the pandemic levels of developmental disabilities globally, so they fight it tooth and nail. They can put up all the fight they want online. Just as long as they don't show up at my doorstep with a syringe of their crap, I don't care if they agree or not.
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    What did Thomas Verstraeten say? http://www.forbes.com/sites/emilywil.../#5b219e1b4f12

    In his presentation at the Simpsonwood conference, Verstraeten noted,

    This is the result for autism, in which we don’t see much of a trend except for a slight, but not significant, increase for the highest exposure. The overall test for trend is statistically not significant.
    Later in the presentation, we learn that phase I of the study looked only at raw numbers from a database while phase II involved chart examination to confirm diagnoses and added in an HMO. The second phase involved new data following on the study described in the 1999 abstract. This chart review matters. As one of the other authors on the 1999 abstract notes in the Simpsonwood presentation:

    Now with autism, if we limit it to children with exposure at either one month or three months of age… there is a relative risk that is no different than one and that is replicated whether we limit it to children with a diagnosis mentioned in the chart where the child was referred to a specialist, or the child was confirmed by a specialist
    .
    He then notes

    Because the findings of the first phase were not replicated in the second phase, the perception of the study changed from a positive to a neutral study. Surprisingly, however, the study is being interpreted now as negative by many, including the antivaccine lobbyists. The article does not state that we found evidence against an association, as a negative study would. It does state, on the contrary, that additional study is recommended, which is the conclusion to which a neutral study must come
    .
    In other words, he did not find any significant link between thimerisol and autism. Further proof can be seen by what happened when thimerisol was removed from vaccines. If it was a cause of autism, autism rates should have gone down when it was taken out of them. It did not.

    "autistic like behavior" (as if there is a damn difference).
    Autism Spectrum Disorder does not have a single definition. It covers an ever- growing list of symptoms (one reason more cases are reported- more fit the expanded definition). They look at a person's behavior and try to decide if the person fits enough of the definition. There isn't a test for autism which says "yes, this person has autism, no- this person doesn't".
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    What difference would it make to you? I have posted evidence time and time again, but you always ignore it. Instead of trolling and being a liberal contrarian on this site, maybe you should actually try to learn something. Neg rep.


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    Recent peer reviewed research connects vaccines to autism. 5
    \

    Bull$#@!. Bull$#@!. Bull$#@!. Your first hint should be that the paper is in a Chemistry journal, not a medical journal. Peer review - LOL.

    If you want to see an actual, you know, medical professional review the paper : http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/20...d-by-the-decr/



    The “evidence” in the paper consists mainly of Tomlijenovic and Shaw comparing increasing ASD prevalence to the increasing number of vaccines in vaccine schedules in various countries, their argument being that increasing doses of aluminum through vaccines correlates with increasing prevalence of ASD. Basically, they collected data on ASD diagnoses for children from ages 6-21, from 1991-2008 from the US Department of Education Annual Reports for ASD prevalence. Next, they tried to correlate the autism prevalence in this group with the cumulative aluminum dosage they received before age 6 through the pediatric vaccination schedule. They then basically did the most simplistic analysis imaginable, plotting the minimum, mean, and maximum aluminum exposures against ASD prevalence. Can you say “ecological fallacy”? Sure, I knew you could.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leaning Libertarian View Post
    Zippy is more than welcome to my childrens' left over unused vaccines. I sure as hell am not putting any more vaccines into them, until they make them safe and green. These liberal protagonists repeatedly go after Wakefield's Lancet article and McCarthy's soft core porn, but these are the low hanging fruit. They won't touch the Hannah Polling or Bailey Banks court finding vaccines directly caused these two children (each diagnosed with autism) to have "autistic like behavior" (as if there is a damn difference). They won't touch the overwhelming medical consensus declaring vaccines as "unavoidably unsafe," is the whole reason the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Act was passed in the first place. They don't discuss the Thomas Verstraeten Scientific Review of Vaccine Safety Datalink Information in June 2000. Related to your cited medical studies you will get crickets. Most work in the medical profession somewhere, and have a cognitive bias. They wouldn't want to face themselves knowing the "social good" they believe themselves doing is causing the pandemic levels of developmental disabilities globally, so they fight it tooth and nail. They can put up all the fight they want online. Just as long as they don't show up at my doorstep with a syringe of their crap, I don't care if they agree or not.
    How can you tell when an anti-vaxxer is lying? His lips are moving. There is literally no evidence that vaccines are more dangerous than the diseases they prevent. Your kids are protected by the fact that most parents are smarter than you are, not vice-versa.

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    Yes, there was a CDC cover up regarding vaccines. That there was a higher rate than normal of possible links to autism in black children under the age of 36 months (?). Wrong to hide it, yes. Proof that vaccines are immediate autism for all children? No. Also, define autism. Realize that autism diagnoses are about 1.5% of people nationwide, and this is under the new diagnostic parameters. Over 1/3 of those would never have been considered autistic under older diagnostic definitions. Also, where you have autism diagnostic centers, you see autism diagnosis spike. Move away from these specialized centers, and the rates of people diagnosed with autism drops significantly.

    To be fair, location and new criteria only accounts for roughly 60% of cases. Strangely, there is a more of a link to autism with older parents, leaning more towards older fathers.

    The problem with blaming aluminum for anything is (alzheimers runs strongly in my family, and as aluminum is possibly related, I'm well read) that aluminum is literally one of the most common elements in the universe. It's in everything. And I mean everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    \

    Your first hint should be that the paper is in a Chemistry journal, not a medical journal. Peer review - LOL.
    First hint of what? Chemistry is part of medicine. It's a peer reviewed chemistry journal.


    Can you say “ecological fallacy”? Sure, I knew you could.

    Sure, I can say it, Mister Rogers, but I won't because it doesn't apply.



    Bull$#@!. Bull$#@!. Bull$#@!.

    Jumping up & down and screaming profanities doesn't negate the evidence.


    If you want to see an actual, you know, medical professional review the paper : http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/20...d-by-the-decr/
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    It was not only reviewed, but it was peer reviewed. I will take that over your "blogger."
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    How can you tell when an anti-vaxxer is lying? His lips are moving. There is literally no evidence that vaccines are more dangerous than the diseases they prevent. Your kids are protected by the fact that most parents are smarter than you are, not vice-versa.

    What is literal evidence? Something opposed to figurative evidence?

    Maybe you should consult your "Sure, I knew you could" Mister Rogers blogger to understand the definition of evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Intoxiklown View Post
    Yes, there was a CDC cover up regarding vaccines. That there was a higher rate than normal of possible links to autism in black children under the age of 36 months (?). Wrong to hide it, yes. Proof that vaccines are immediate autism for all children? No. Also, define autism. Realize that autism diagnoses are about 1.5% of people nationwide, and this is under the new diagnostic parameters. Over 1/3 of those would never have been considered autistic under older diagnostic definitions. Also, where you have autism diagnostic centers, you see autism diagnosis spike. Move away from these specialized centers, and the rates of people diagnosed with autism drops significantly.

    To be fair, location and new criteria only accounts for roughly 60% of cases. Strangely, there is a more of a link to autism with older parents, leaning more towards older fathers.

    The problem with blaming aluminum for anything is (alzheimers runs strongly in my family, and as aluminum is possibly related, I'm well read) that aluminum is literally one of the most common elements in the universe. It's in everything. And I mean everything.
    The study which found higher autism rates was flawed and they corrected it. The problem was that they included a group of black children in a special school for autistic kids where they had to be vaccinated before they could attend. They had autism BEFORE they got their vaccines so the vaccines could not have caused the autism. Once that group was removed, they found no other correlations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    The study which found higher autism rates was flawed and they corrected it. The problem was that they included a group of black children in a special school for autistic kids where they had to be vaccinated before they could attend. They had autism BEFORE they got their vaccines so the vaccines could not have caused the autism. Once that group was removed, they found no other correlations.
    Sadly, that info is a day late and a dollar short. I can't fault anyone being leery of the subject going forward since they hid data. Still, it's good to know.
    "Self conquest is the greatest of all victories." - Plato

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