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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by DamianTV View Post
    Yeah, the EU worked out so well that we just had Brexit! EU failed so hard that we should do exactly what they did. Pure. Genius. NOT!

    What does he plan to do, export his financial failure?
    Its Mexico, if they were smart it would not be...well you know, Mexico.



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  3. #32
    Bout time Washington took over Mexico. In recognition it should be renamed Baja Texas and The Texan should be appointed its governor.
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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    Bout time Washington took over Mexico. In recognition it should be renamed Baja Texas and The Texan should be appointed its governor.
    I know you're kidding, but don't even go there. With our welfare state, imagine the effect of doing this. Not to mention the fact that Mexicans tend to favor big government and would be voting thusly.
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  6. #34
    Let's encourage Mexico to join the SAU (South American Union).

    They already all speak the same language (except for Brazil ).
    Last edited by Ronin Truth; 06-28-2016 at 08:53 AM.

  7. #35
    Yeah, sounds like he's all for more internationalist integration.




    After ‘Brexit,’ Can We Exit a Few Things Too?

    By Ron Paul

    Ron Paul Institute

    June 28, 2016

    Last week’s UK vote to leave the EU may have come as a shock to many, but the sentiment that led British voters to reject rule from Brussels is nothing unique. In fact, it is growing sentiment worldwide. Frustration with politics as usual, with political parties that really do not differ in philosophy, with an economy that serves the one percent at the expense of the rest of society is a growing phenomenon throughout Europe and in the United States as well. The Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump phenomena are but one example of a frustrated public sensing something is very wrong with society and looking for a way out.

    What is happening in the UK, in Europe, and in the US, is nothing less than a breakdown of the entire system. The EU was meant to be a customs union where post-World War II Western Europe could rebuild itself through free trade and a reduction in bureaucracy. Through corruption and political ambition, it became an unelected bully government in Brussels, where the well-connected were well compensated and insulated from the votes of mere citizens.

    Whatever happens in the near future – and it is certainly not assured that the vote to “Brexit” will actually end in the UK’s departure from the EU – a line has been crossed that supporters of more personal liberty should celebrate. Rule from London is preferable to liberty-minded Britons than rule from Brussels. Just as Texans should prefer rule from Austin to rule from Washington. That doesn’t make either option perfect, just more likely to produce more freedom.

    Is Brexit the first victory in a larger freedom movement? Can we get out of a system that creates money out of thin air to benefit the ruling class while impoverishing the middle class? Can we get out of a central bank that finances the wars that make us less safe? Can we exit Executive Orders? Can we exit the surveillance state? The PATRIOT Act? Can we exit NDAA and indefinite detention? Can we exit the US worldwide drone program, that kills innocents overseas and makes us ever more hated?

    Getting out of NATO would be a good first move. This Cold War relic survives only by stirring up conflict and then selling itself as the only option to confront the conflict it churned up. Wouldn’t it be better to not go looking for a fight in the first place? Do we really need still another NATO military exercise on the Russian border? It should be no surprise that NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg was fear-mongering on the eve of the Brexit vote, warning UK citizens that if they vote to leave they could face increased terrorism.

    Likewise, the US would do well to exit the various phony “free trade” agreements that provide an advantage to the well-connected elites while harming the rest of us.

    The act of exit is liberating. We should make a longer list of those things we would like to get out of. I am only getting started.

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Likewise, the US would do well to exit the various phony “free trade” agreements that provide an advantage to the well-connected elites while harming the rest of us.

    The act of exit is liberating. We should make a longer list of those things we would like to get out of. I am only getting started.
    Yes please.
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  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yeah, sounds like he's all for more internationalist integration.




    After ‘Brexit,’ Can We Exit a Few Things Too?

    By Ron Paul

    Ron Paul Institute

    June 28, 2016

    Last week’s UK vote to leave the EU may have come as a shock to many, but the sentiment that led British voters to reject rule from Brussels is nothing unique. In fact, it is growing sentiment worldwide. Frustration with politics as usual, with political parties that really do not differ in philosophy, with an economy that serves the one percent at the expense of the rest of society is a growing phenomenon throughout Europe and in the United States as well. The Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump phenomena are but one example of a frustrated public sensing something is very wrong with society and looking for a way out.

    What is happening in the UK, in Europe, and in the US, is nothing less than a breakdown of the entire system. The EU was meant to be a customs union where post-World War II Western Europe could rebuild itself through free trade and a reduction in bureaucracy. Through corruption and political ambition, it became an unelected bully government in Brussels, where the well-connected were well compensated and insulated from the votes of mere citizens.

    Whatever happens in the near future – and it is certainly not assured that the vote to “Brexit” will actually end in the UK’s departure from the EU – a line has been crossed that supporters of more personal liberty should celebrate. Rule from London is preferable to liberty-minded Britons than rule from Brussels. Just as Texans should prefer rule from Austin to rule from Washington. That doesn’t make either option perfect, just more likely to produce more freedom.

    Is Brexit the first victory in a larger freedom movement? Can we get out of a system that creates money out of thin air to benefit the ruling class while impoverishing the middle class? Can we get out of a central bank that finances the wars that make us less safe? Can we exit Executive Orders? Can we exit the surveillance state? The PATRIOT Act? Can we exit NDAA and indefinite detention? Can we exit the US worldwide drone program, that kills innocents overseas and makes us ever more hated?

    Getting out of NATO would be a good first move. This Cold War relic survives only by stirring up conflict and then selling itself as the only option to confront the conflict it churned up. Wouldn’t it be better to not go looking for a fight in the first place? Do we really need still another NATO military exercise on the Russian border? It should be no surprise that NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg was fear-mongering on the eve of the Brexit vote, warning UK citizens that if they vote to leave they could face increased terrorism.

    Likewise, the US would do well to exit the various phony “free trade” agreements that provide an advantage to the well-connected elites while harming the rest of us.

    The act of exit is liberating. We should make a longer list of those things we would like to get out of. I am only getting started.
    Indexit? Individual exit. Well, unfortunately not, Ron. You see no one is going to use force of arms to stop British exit. But, through the good fortune of being born in a certain state you cannot do as nations do.

  10. #38
    Flashback:

    Bush sneaking North American super-state without oversight?
    http://www.wnd.com/2006/06/36586/#bxo8eRRj1TfLAkLi.99
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

  11. #39
    How about Amerexit the UN!
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    To be fair, so does Ron Paul.
    Was wondering what the Ban was for,,,

    Was that deliberate,, or a bad brain fart?

    It is quite incorrect as you know.
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  14. #41

    North American Leaders' Summit 6/29/2016

    http://www.international.gc.ca/ameri....aspx?lang=eng

    Canada, the United States and Mexico have long collaborated as continental partners in the world’s most prosperous region. The North America region has a combined population of almost 530 million and an economy that represents more than one-quarter of the world’s GDP. The three countries are amongst each other’s largest trading partners and sources of foreign investment. The continent’s abundant natural resources and integrated continental energy markets provide important economic and security benefits for our citizens.

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by alucard13mm View Post
    If you don't care about your borders, you don't care about your sovereignty. Why have borders in the first place? hehe
    Why do zoos have cages? If they'd just chip all of us, they wouldn't even need borders.
    All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
    -Albert Camus

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    To be fair, so does Ron Paul.
    After few years of following Ron Paul, i see nowhere where Paul has supported the idea of NAU.

  17. #44
    Looks like political leaders and pseudo political journalists are being exposed for what they are and what they believe in thanks to brexit. Leeches.

    Anytime someone else does the work for you at minimal cost, you are in an advantageous position and these folks, much like the Mexican presidente here, are seeing the tide turn on there globalist strategy. They are losing ground and they are feeling it.

  18. #45
    The news conference currently underway from the North American Leaders summit is enough to turn one's stomach.
    There is only one success -- to be able to spend your life in your own way.
    -- Christopher Morley (1890 - 1957)

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Flashback:

    Bush sneaking North American super-state without oversight?
    http://www.wnd.com/2006/06/36586/#bxo8eRRj1TfLAkLi.99
    Department of Commerce needs to go. One of many.

    Many SPP working groups appear to be working toward achieving specific objectives as defined by a May 2005 Council on Foreign Relations task force report, which presented a blueprint for expanding the SPP agreement into a North American Union that would merge the U.S., Canada and Mexico into a new governmental form.

    Referring to the SPP joint declaration, the report, entitled “Building a North American Community,” stated:



    The Task Force is pleased to provide specific advice on how the partnership can be pursued and realized.

    To that end, the Task Force proposes the creation by 2010 of a North American community to enhance security, prosperity, and opportunity. We propose a community based on the principle affirmed in the March 2005 Joint Statement of the three leaders that “our security and prosperity are mutually dependent and complementary.” Its boundaries will be defined by a common external tariff and an outer security perimeter within which the movement of people, products, and capital will be legal, orderly, and safe. Its goal will be to guarantee a free, secure, just, and prosperous North America.



    Exactly like the EU which is goods, services, people and capital with a supranational, unelected, unaccountable beats of a government (as if our own isn't bad enough) to run the show.

    CFR is the US version of The Royal Institute of International Affairs, a.k.a., Chatham House. Their creation and the League of Nations was the beginning of global government.


  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Flashback:

    Bush sneaking North American super-state without oversight?
    http://www.wnd.com/2006/06/36586/#bxo8eRRj1TfLAkLi.99
    In that article, the link to the SPP site is dead. That's how these snakes work. They're always re-naming the projects, even when they haven't changed. Makes it harder to keep up with what they're doing.

    One person we know who was on one of the committees was Heidi Cruz:

    http://www.wnd.com/2015/03/ted-cruz-...-against-wife/

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by otherone View Post
    Why do zoos have cages? If they'd just chip all of us, they wouldn't even need borders.



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  23. #49
    It could work. A single government, to rule them all,

    my precious....
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  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by susano View Post
    In that article, the link to the SPP site is dead. That's how these snakes work. They're always re-naming the projects, even when they haven't changed. Makes it harder to keep up with what they're doing.
    The entire domain is gone. Here is an archived copy - https://web.archive.org/web/20060702...ort_to_leaders

  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    The entire domain is gone. Here is an archived copy - https://web.archive.org/web/20060702...ort_to_leaders

    On the Working Groups page, it starts right off with double talk:

    Explore new approaches to enhance the competitiveness of North American industries by promoting greater cooperation in sectors such as autos, steel, and other sectors identified through consultations.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20060704...perity_working

    You don't enhance competition through harmonization. The only competitiveness these people care is driving down wages for workers and flooding everybody with immigrant labor so the natives are forced to compete. It's the old race to the bottom for the plantation and more profits for the massah.

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    if the open borders advocacy was not enough to earn you a ban, this comment sure does.
    You called it.

    I actually just posted that as bait and intended to defend it after it got people riled up, but never got the chance, the ban came too fast.

    It was a true statement though. You don't have to be for any kind of super-state over North America to want free movement of people and goods throughout it. I saw nothing objectionable in what the Mexican president said.
    Last edited by erowe1; 07-04-2016 at 10:15 PM.

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    You called it.

    I actually just posted that as bait and intended to defend it after it got people riled up, but never got the chance, the ban came too fast.

    It was a true statement though. You don't have to be fore any kind of super-state over North America to want free movement of people and goods throughout it. I saw nothing objectionable in what the Mexican president said.
    On the first day of his state visit, Pena Nieto also signaled Mexico's intention to join a fledgling continental carbon market with Quebec, Ontario and the US state of California.

    He is also expected to announce matching cuts to US methane emissions, which Canada agreed to in March.
    If you don't think this will not result in whole new rafts of rules, regulations and unrepresentative fatwas that will directly impact the people of the United States, you're nuts.

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