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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    The polls are correct about his performance. I am paying attention to the polling.
    The purpose of a poll is to help anticipate an outcome.

    Being that all available evidence shows that you are unable to predict an accurate outcome - through the way that you choose to interpret polls - then why do you continue to spread what likely amounts to a giant pile of misinformation?

    Are you intentionally trying to confuse people when it comes to anticipating how he will perform?

    If you are not trying to confuse people, then why don't you start taking the opinions of people who actually have credibility on the subject into account?

    Your behaviour is not consistent with the actions of someone who is acting in a sincere manner.
    Donald Trump > SJW ass-tears



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Petar View Post
    The purpose of a poll is to help anticipate an outcome.

    Being that all available evidence shows that you are unable to predict an accurate outcome - through the way that you choose to interpret polls - then why do you continue to spread what likely amounts to a giant pile of misinformation?

    Are you intentionally trying to confuse people when it comes to anticipating how he will perform?

    If you are not trying to confuse people, then why don't you start taking the opinions of people who actually have credibility on the subject into account?

    Your behaviour is not consistent with the actions of someone who is acting in a sincere manner.
    It's pretty clear how he will perform, based on current polling and fundraising. If the numbers start to change, it may require reevaluation, but all evidence so far shows he will fail hard.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    It's pretty clear how he will perform, based on current polling and fundraising. If the numbers start to change, it may require reevaluation, but all evidence so far shows he will fail hard.
    Given that the way that you chose to interpret the primary polls was proven to be a failure, what makes you believe that you have any credibility this time around?
    Donald Trump > SJW ass-tears

  6. #34
    A national poll of 836 registered voters before the conventions is as useless as tits on a boar hog. At this point, the only polling that is even remotely useful is in the important states and that is still extremely premature. Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, Colorado, and Virginia are fairly tight; that is where the hay will be made.
    ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!
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  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Petar View Post
    Given that the way that you chose to interpret the primary polls was proven to be a failure, what makes you believe that you have any credibility this time around?
    The primary polling was proven once the voting started. While it was competitive, Trump was losing most of the closed contests and winning in solid Dem states, just as I (and everyone else paying attention to the polling) said he would.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    The primary polling was proven once the voting started. While it was competitive, Trump was losing most of the closed contests and winning in solid Dem states, just as I (and everyone else paying attention to the polling) said he would.
    All you did was post polls/arguments to combat the idea that Trump was going to win.

    I was able to anticipate that as far back as September.

    Why do you refuse to take the opinions of people with actual credibility into consideration with the way that you choose to interpret polls?
    Donald Trump > SJW ass-tears

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Petar View Post
    All you did was post polls/arguments to combat the idea that Trump was going to win.

    I was able to anticipate that as far back as September.

    Why do you refuse to take the opinions of people with actual credibility into consideration with the way that you choose to interpret polls?
    I can't tell candidates like Cruz or Rubio how to run their campaigns, if they ignore what the polls are showing them and get beat, it's on them.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by BamaAla View Post
    A national poll of 836 registered voters before the conventions is as useless as tits on a boar hog. At this point, the only polling that is even remotely useful is in the important states and that is still extremely premature. Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, Colorado, and Virginia are fairly tight; that is where the hay will be made.
    He should be doing better than this in FL:



    At this rate, TX will be a swing state by November, along with NC, UT, KS, MO, AZ.

    UT Poll: Trump Leads Clinton by 8 in Texas
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    I can't tell candidates like Cruz or Rubio how to run their campaigns, if they ignore what the polls are showing them and get beat, it's on them.
    You are the one who was anticipating a Trump loss.

    If you are unable to admit that you are bad at anticipating whether Trump will win or lose, then that is on you.

    Why don't you start listening to people that are actually good at anticipating whether Trump is going to win or lose?

    Don't you want to promote realistic expectations?
    Donald Trump > SJW ass-tears

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Petar View Post
    You are the one who was anticipating a Trump loss.

    If you are unable to admit that you are bad at anticipating whether Trump will win or lose, then that is on you.

    Why don't you start listening to people that are actually good at anticipating whether Trump is going to win or lose?

    Don't you want to promote realistic expectations?
    I listen to 1st hand sources, then polling, then internet randoms, in that order. If you don't value my input, that's OK, but you are going to have to find a way to deal with it. You are in the minority, and as long as that is true, I will continue to post when I can.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul



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  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    He should be doing better than this in FL:


    At this rate, TX will be a swing state by November, along with NC, UT, KS, MO, AZ.

    UT Poll: Trump Leads Clinton by 8 in Texas
    Maybe, but we'll have to wait to see. My point remains, the wapo poll is window dressing at best; Trump has to flip battle ground states and Hillary has to hold the line, but an outlier poll in late June provides zero insight to either proposition. I'm still of the opinion that Trump flips several of those states and wins, but I can't quantify or substantiate that position...but at least I admit that. Trumpkin 4 lyfe!
    ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!
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  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    I listen to 1st hand sources, then polling, then internet randoms, in that order. If you don't value my input, that's OK, but you are going to have to find a way to deal with it. You are in the minority, and as long as that is true, I will continue to post when I can.
    The question is, why do you value your own input?

    Why do you continue to espouse opinions that are based on the same, failed methodology?

    And call me a "random" if you want, but at least I was able to actually predict how Trump would perform during the primaries.

    Why do you insist on ignoring people with actual credibility?

    Are you trying to spread ignorance on purpose?
    Donald Trump > SJW ass-tears

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by BamaAla View Post
    Maybe, but we'll have to wait to see. My point remains, the wapo poll is window dressing at best; Trump has to flip battle ground states and Hillary has to hold the line, but an outlier poll in late June provides zero insight to either proposition. I'm still of the opinion that Trump flips several of those states and wins, but I can't quantify or substantiate that position...but at least I admit that. Trumpkin 4 lyfe!
    The big poll movement will slow down after the tickets on both sides are revealed. I think after that it will take a month of campaigning in a state to gain just 1 or 2 points.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    The big poll movement will slow down after the tickets on both sides are revealed. I think after that it will take a month of campaigning in a state to gain just 1 or 2 points.
    What gives you the credibility to accurately predict that?
    Donald Trump > SJW ass-tears

  19. #46
    Looks like he is struggling to crack 40% when they poll 4 candidates.


    https://www.qu.edu/images/polling/ps...6_Sfw34kbm.pdf
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    The big poll movement will slow down after the tickets on both sides are revealed. I think after that it will take a month of campaigning in a state to gain just 1 or 2 points.
    Quote Originally Posted by Petar View Post
    What gives you the credibility to accurately predict that?
    The answer, of course, is that you totally lack the credibility to predict that.

    If you were honest, that is something that you would readily admit.
    Donald Trump > SJW ass-tears

  21. #48
    This one does not bode well for a candidate who has supposedly locked up the nomination:

    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Looks like he is struggling to crack 40% when they poll 4 candidates.


    https://www.qu.edu/images/polling/ps...6_Sfw34kbm.pdf
    So does Clinton
    BOWLING GREEN, Kentucky – Washington liberals are trying to push through the so-called DREAM Act, which creates an official path to Democrat voter registration for 2 million college-age illegal immigrants.
    Rand Paul 2010

    Booker T. Washington:
    Cast it down among the eight millions of Negroes whose habits you know, whose
    fidelity and love you have tested in days when to have proved treacherous meant the ruin of your firesides.

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