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    George Will Leaving the GOP over Trump

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/25/politi...ion/index.html

    Conservative commentator and columnist George Will says he is leaving the Republican Party because of Donald Trump -- and he's advocating that others do the same.
    Good. The GOP is getting gutted. The neocons are fleeing to Hillary and people like Will are becoming more independent.

    Perhaps there can be a new party that emerges from these ashes that Trump's left with.
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    I say great! I only wished they would leave the country. George Will is a maroon.
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    I thought George Will, Charlie Sykes, & Hugh Hewitt were going to "wreck" Trump.
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    Cast it down among the eight millions of Negroes whose habits you know, whose
    fidelity and love you have tested in days when to have proved treacherous meant the ruin of your firesides.

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    Where's he gonna go?

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    Here's hoping Gary Johnson gets to 15%!
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    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    This will be convenient for the GOP establishment. They can blame declining membership on Trump. In reality, the GOP has been shrinking for years because of the establishment. And it will continue. Every time McConnell and friends screw over average GOP voters, people leave the Party.
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    Not sure how this helps move the GOP in a more conservative direction. Seems to create the opposite effect.

    I say stay in, vote your conscience, and work toward reform.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Here's hoping Gary Johnson gets to 15%!
    There's a similar dynamic there. Do people leaving or joining a Party do it only because of one person, in this case the Presidential nominee? Are people joining the Libertarian Party because Gary Johnson or Bob Barr are great candidates?
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    I kind of like George Will. He's possibly my favorite major mainstream conservative pundit. I don't agree with him as much as I do more libertarian people. But I probably agree with him more than anyone else of a similar stature in the media. And I think he's a good writer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by georgiaboy View Post
    Not sure how this helps move the GOP in a more conservative direction. Seems to create the opposite effect.

    I say stay in, vote your conscience, and work toward reform.
    He can always come back and reward them with his support when they come around. But it's good that he shows them it can't be taken for granted.

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    Good, one less war mongering idiot in GOP.



    George Will and the Iraq War Dead-Enders

    By Daniel Larison • November 14, 2014



    Pete Wehner’s criticism of George Will’s latest column seems to boil down to his annoyance that Will used to be a war supporter:
    But I do believe that now that he’s claiming Iraq is “the worst foreign-policy decision in U.S. history,” Will might want to admit from time to time that he believed, pre-Iraq war, it was a terrific and necessary idea.

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    Getting rid of the effete, warmongering hacks who haven't "conserved" a damn thing during their half century in power is the necessary first step.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Here's hoping Gary Johnson gets to 15%!

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Good, one less war mongering idiot in GOP.

    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulMall View Post
    Getting rid of the effete, warmongering hacks who haven't "conserved" a damn thing during their half century in power is the necessary first step.
    George Will is a hell of a lot more libertarian on every issue, including foreign policy, than Donald Trump.

    George Will supported the Iraq War. Then called it a mistake pretty quickly after it started. What intervention has he supported sense? I guess Walter Jones is a warmonger too.



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    Yeah, the guy who wrote an article entitled, "Vladimir Putin's Hitlerean Mind" is better than Trump on FP, lol. Will is the neocons the neocons tryout when they want to seem reasonable and non threatening. Who could be afraid of a dweeb in a bowtie, after all?

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    Can't blame anyone for leaving the GOP, but Will's choice of reasoning is odd. It is not his party now, but it was his party when they were advocating torture, whitewashing torture, imprisoning whistle-blowers, committing preemptive invasions, advocating war to impose its will on other nations, renditions, bombing weddings, bombing homes, bombing hospitals, bombing everything, funding dictators, destabilizing nations, funding arming and training terrorists, expanding debt, perpetuating "regime change", funding "color" revolutions, increasing belligerence, killing hundreds of thousands or more, displacing and impoverishing millions, total surveillance, destroying the fourth amendment, and on and on ... - then it was George Will's party. He could embrace that stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    I say great! I only wished they would leave the country. George Will is a maroon.

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...acc_story.html

    Editorial by George Will:

    The last 11 years have been filled with hard learning. The 2003 invasion of Iraq, the worst foreign policy decision in U.S. history, coincided with mission creep (“nation building”) in Afghanistan. Both strengthened what can be called the Republicans’ John Quincy Adams faction: America “goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.”
    Many events (U.S. military misadventures since 2001, the Syrian civil war, the rise of the Islamic State, the spinning centrifuges of Iran’s nuclear weapons program) and one senator (Rand Paul) have reopened a Republican debate that essentially closed when Dwight Eisenhower won the party’s presidential nomination in 1952.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    Can't blame anyone for leaving the GOP, but Will's choice of reasoning is odd. It is not his party now, but it was his party when they were advocating torture, whitewashing torture, imprisoning whistle-blowers, committing preemptive invasions, advocating war to impose its will on other nations, renditions, bombing weddings, bombing homes, bombing hospitals, bombing everything, funding dictators, destabilizing nations, funding arming and training terrorists, expanding debt, perpetuating "regime change", funding "color" revolutions, increasing belligerence, killing hundreds of thousands or more, displacing and impoverishing millions, total surveillance, destroying the fourth amendment, and on and on ... - then it was George Will's party. He could embrace that stuff.
    +rep

    The status quo accurately described above will be perpetuated by Hillary and her puppet masters - but not with this GOP nominee. So it's no wonder that he's joining the likes of Bill Kristol and other parasites in fleeing the GOP like the neocon rat bastards they are.

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    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    Lindsay Graham and Cheney aren't big enough neocons flee the party?
    Cheney is on the Trump Train. He endorsed him several weeks ago.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul



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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post



    We're all aware that Trump's a flawed candidate, but what do you think his intentions are? Serious question. We definitely know what Hillary and her controllers' intentions are: They intend to screw the world over in their sick aspirations of enrichment, power and control for their small club at the expense of the lives and liberty of everyone else, no exceptions; And they've been doing a fabulous job at it for decades.

    At what point do people say enough is enough and take the power away from these sick f*cks?

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    Trump's intentions are to put the Clintons back in the White House.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Trump's intentions are to put the Clintons back in the White House.
    If I believed that for one second, I would be your biggest fan on RPF.

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    The elitist, globalist, anti-American snobs are in search of a new political vehicle since the GOP is being reborn with an influx of pissed-off Americans because of the way they have been lied to and exploited. George Will isn't that bright, but he is that snobbish. He's willing to risk a liberal SCOTUS because with the liberals the elite in the GOPe maintain their status quo. There was nothing ever conservative about them. They haven't conserved squat, but they have very nearly destroyed the United States constitution and the liberty and prosperity of its working people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliPsy View Post
    The elitist, globalist, anti-American snobs are in search of a new political vehicle since the GOP is being reborn with an influx of pissed-off Americans because of the way they have been lied to and exploited. George Will isn't that bright, but he is that snobbish. He's willing to risk a liberal SCOTUS because with the liberals the elite in the GOPe maintain their status quo. There was nothing ever conservative about them. They haven't conserved squat, but they have very nearly destroyed the United States constitution and the liberty and prosperity of its working people.

    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to PoliPsy again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    This will be convenient for the GOP establishment. They can blame declining membership on Trump. In reality, the GOP has been shrinking for years because of the establishment. And it will continue. Every time McConnell and friends screw over average GOP voters, people leave the Party.
    I give that evil commie Reid credit for growing his party as much as I give McConnell credit for killing his .

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