2000 Years of Pauline Christianity

[RJB]

A word to the wise is usually sufficient.

And yet with you, hundreds of replies to such threads are insufficient. Hmmm?

[georgiaboy]

Probably the same historical documents you refer to.

He was seeing things that weren't there, and hearing voices.

Merriam Webster
: something (such as an image, a sound, or a smell) that seems real but does not really exist and that is usually caused by mental illness or the effect of a drug
: perception of objects with no reality usually arising from disorder of the nervous system or in response to drugs (as LSD)

Dictionary.com
1. a sensory experience of something that does not exist outside the mind, caused by various physical and mental disorders, or by reaction to certain toxic substances, and usually manifested as visual or auditory images.
2. the sensation caused by a hallucinatory condition or the object or scene visualized.

A hallucination that made Paul physically blind and changed him from a Jewish leader and persecutor of Christians to one with similar authority as the twelve who walked with Jesus.
A hallucination that caused him to be the most persecuted person on the planet, up to his beheading in Rome.
A hallucination that changed a man from a fighter to a lover, a taker to a giver, a master to a slave, all by choice.

This was the man you say is merely deluded or a liar. The delusion or misrepresentation is on your part.

Yours is a tired and dangerous path, tried before and failed over and over again, ultimately heretical. I wash my hands.

[Jamesiv1]

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[Ronin Truth]

Indeed, RT, erowe and hb are correct.

Peter even speaks highly of Paul in his epistle.

Paul spent lots of time in Jerusalem with Peter, James, and the other apostles, and was ultimately accepted by them as an apostle himself, called by Jesus Himself.

The apostles had every reason to not want to accept Paul as an apostle -- yet they did. If they thought he was legit, so should we.

Ergo, his writings are apostolic and scripture, and preach the same gospel as all the other apostles and Christ himself.

It's Christianity 101, and this Jesus v. Paul stuff you're messing around with is just wrong.

Paul and Jesus don't teach a different salvation, or different doctrines. As you're fond of google searches, try something like "the apostleship of Paul" perhaps.

I found this: http://theos.org/media/category/124/

Who was the author of Peter's epistle? Look it up. While you're at it, who were the real authors of several of Paul's epistles?

I really don't need any more Paul apologetics or cheerleading, I get much more than enough of that here.

[heavenlyboy34]

Who was the author of Peter's epistle?

Peter, between 50-67 A.D.

Look it up. While you're at it, who were the real authors of several of Paul's epistles?

Paul. y/w.

[Ronin Truth]

Peter, between 50-67 A.D.



Paul. y/w.

Check again.

[bunklocoempire]

To be concluded at: http://30ce.com/paulinechristianity.htm

The sub forum is Peace Through Religion.

Please show how this brings you peace OP, and therefore, peace to the world.

Thanks.

[erowe1]

Probably the same historical documents you refer to.

He was seeing things that weren't there, and hearing voices.

Merriam Webster
: something (such as an image, a sound, or a smell) that seems real but does not really exist and that is usually caused by mental illness or the effect of a drug
: perception of objects with no reality usually arising from disorder of the nervous system or in response to drugs (as LSD)

Dictionary.com
1. a sensory experience of something that does not exist outside the mind, caused by various physical and mental disorders, or by reaction to certain toxic substances, and usually manifested as visual or auditory images.
2. the sensation caused by a hallucinatory condition or the object or scene visualized.

I know of no historical sources that say that. Do you?

[heavenlyboy34]

Check again.

Checked. I'm still correct. Thanks anyhoo. ~hugs~

[erowe1]

Questions about the authorship of the epistles of Peter or the disputed Pauline epistles are moot. It's very easy to prove that Paul had the approval of the apostles and brothers of Jesus who were with him in his earthly ministry just by the data available in the undisputed Pauline epistles.

[hells_unicorn]

Another day, another pointless thread by Ronin on the religious forum, touting the same unfounded and nonsensical claims. There are two things that are evident here:

1. That Ronin is far too old to learn the most basic of rules regarding logic, reason, and discourse, thus he comes off as mentally deranged when trying to apply canned responses to substantive objections.

2. That Jamesvi1 still thinks that he can prove a completely unsubstantiated claim by repeating it over and over.

Conversation over, carry on.

[Christian Liberty]

Questions about the authorship of the epistles of Peter or the disputed Pauline epistles are moot. It's very easy to prove that Paul had the approval of the apostles and brothers of Jesus who were with him in his earthly ministry just by the data available in the undisputed Pauline epistles.

You Johnist :P

[Ronin Truth]

Checked. I'm still correct. Thanks anyhoo. ~hugs~

Assertion evidence/proof? (thread post #3 ) And to your first 5 (if any) responses, "That's no proof".



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