Why is the LEFT howling about Brexit and racist/xenophia....

[susano]

Well, for one, you don't seem to give a damn about the black Christian West or the Brown Christian west, or the red Christian west, you only seem to give a $#@! about the white Christian West. It's people like this that make it damn impossible for reasonable people to have a rational discussion on why unchecked Muslim immigration is dangerous, because every time we bring it up all the other rational people see is idiots pissing and moaning about melanin content in someone's skin.

Sorry but you're putting your own spin on what I've said. I was talking about Europe where the indigenous population is, indeed, white and whose values were shaped, in large part, by Christianity. I certainly do care about people of any color and religion (including Muslims) who are being targeted for having their cultures wiped out and for genocide (the latter being not in Europe).

[susano]

Yes I do.

Would you care to provide your source?

Again, I can't wait to see what it is. And it's conspicuous how much you are avoiding my repeated requests for the sources of your claims. Might you be embarrassed by them?

There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews. It is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures were Jews.

Do you find that "racist" or "anti-semetic"?

[GunnyFreedom]

Sorry but you're putting your own spin on what I've said. I was talking about Europe where the indigenous population is, indeed, white and whose values were shaped, in large part, by Christianity. I certainly do care about people of any color and religion (including Muslims) who are being targeted for having their cultures wiped out and for genocide (the latter being not in Europe).

I've never once in my almost 43 years felt the need to divide people by skin color.

[susano]

I've never once in my almost 43 years felt the need to divide people by skin color.

It's not about you, it's about the NWO, their social engineers and cultural Marxists who make policy and they DO divide by skin color, sex and "gender", religion/lack of it, ethnicity, nationality, political affiliation and every other category they can come up. More importantly, they pick winners and losers, favor some over others, use some as weapons and target others. That's just reality, Gunny.

[GunnyFreedom]

It's not about you, it's about the NWO, their social engineers and cultural Marxists who make policy and they DO divide by skin color, sex and "gender", religion/lack of it, ethnicity, nationality, political affiliation and every other category they can come up. More importantly, they pick winners and losers, favor some over others, use some as weapons and target others. That's just reality, Gunny.

So, you feel the need to politically divide people according to the color of their skin, because someone you do not like claims to oppose that?

[susano]

So, you feel the need to politically divide people according to the color of their skin, because someone you do not like claims to oppose that?

If white people are being targeted by the NWO, should I pretend it isn't so or avoid stating the facts because someone thinks it's taboo? That's as absurd as saying I shouldn't point out that the Shia are in the crosshairs.

[Zippyjuan]

Noting that the Powers that Be in the NWO are white (assuming there actually IS such a thing). If they want to drive white to extinction they would be committing suicide. Is that their goal? Or is the NWO actually run by Mexico and Muslims? Silly argument.

If "They" want to be rich and live off the populous, why do they want the populous to be poor, broke, and chaotic? Then they have nothing to live off of. Again- it is suicide. They lose either way. They have the most to gain (and also the most political stability meaning job security) if things are going well. That is why China is nervous about their economic growth slowing.

[oyarde]

Easy , Leftists wants , Power , Control , Taxes , Fees , Money, Bigger Govt .

[Zippyjuan]

That pretty much applies to "rightists" too.

[GunnyFreedom]

If white people are being targeted by the NWO, should I pretend it isn't so or avoid stating the facts because someone thinks it's taboo? That's as absurd as saying I shouldn't point out that the Shia are in the crosshairs.

"White people" are not being targeted by the NWO. Anti-globalists are being targeted by the NWO. Your obsession with skin color is telling.

[silverhandorder]

"White people" are not being targeted by the NWO. Anti-globalists are being targeted by the NWO. Your obsession with skin color is telling.

In a white nation where most of the power lies with the white ethnic group a globalist would aim to undermine that group.

[GunnyFreedom]

In a white nation where most of the power lies with the white ethnic group a globalist would aim to undermine that group.

What's a "white nation?" Antarctica is white, but not a nation. Most nations are a mottled collection of browns and greens.

[silverhandorder]

What's a "white nation?" Antarctica is white, but not a nation. Most nations are a mottled collection of browns and greens.

Cute.

[susano]

"White people" are not being targeted by the NWO. Anti-globalists are being targeted by the NWO. Your obsession with skin color is telling.

Your refusal to see the truth is what's telling. You've fallen victim to PC thinking which will not allow you to acknowledge what's happening because it involves countries where white Europeans are indigenous. Do you have as much difficulty acknowledging that other indigenous peoples, of other races, were targeted at other points in history?

[susano]

In a white nation where most of the power lies with the white ethnic group a globalist would aim to undermine that group.

Thank you. It's about undermining the dominant culture which poses an obstacle for whomever wants to gain control.

[erowe1]

There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews. It is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures were Jews.

Do you find that "racist" or "anti-semetic"?

You're still too embarrassed to admit what your source for this belief is, I see.

It's possible that you're just ignorant. But I can pretty much guarantee that your source is racist and antisemitic.

Prove me wrong.

[BamaAla]

We've had Muslims this country and in Europe for a long time. We did not have international Islamic terrorism until the United States under Jimmy Carter started arming Islamic radicals to overthrow the Soviet Union. The CIA went so far as to send textbooks to Afghanistan pushing Islamic radicalization. If radicalization was the "natural" state of Muslims than the CIA had no reason to send the books. Prior to the U.S. misadventure in Afghanistan, when Americans were captured by groups like the PLO they were routinely released. Think of the hijacking that was flown to Entebe. Even this latest shooting really wasn't about homosexuality. I know that's the popular theme pushed by the media. But if you saw the clip on Democracy Now where one of the victims was interviewed she said the killer told them when they were held hostage "I did the because the U.S. is bombing my country." His parents were from Afghanistan. Afghanistan images before and after U.S. interventionism by Jimmy Carter.

You may show me an isolated incident of a text book going to Afghanistan as I have no idea what you're talking about, but it is simply incorrect to suggest that the U.S. had any direct involvement in radicalizing Afghanistan during the soviet war.

The U.S. flew almost completely blind in that ordeal. We poured money into Afghanistan through Pakistan and never asked how they spent it. Pakistan was the decision makers and they saw fit to back the Mujahideen rather than more secular groups fighting the soviets because they thought they could control the Pashto tribesmen. Pakistan is the party that invited Wahabi teachers to madrasas for refugee Afghan and Pashto children. Sure, the U.S. was complicit, but Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are responsible for the lion's share of that mess.

The story of radicalization in Afghanistan is jut a blurb in "The Great Game" that has roots long before the Unites States was any kind of player in international affairs.

[GunnyFreedom]

Your refusal to see the truth is what's telling. You've fallen victim to PC thinking which will not allow you to acknowledge what's happening because it involves countries where white Europeans are indigenous. Do you have as much difficulty acknowledging that other indigenous peoples, of other races, were targeted at other points in history?

You think that I'm "politically correct" because I'm not obsessed with whiteness?

[susano]

You're still too embarrassed to admit what your source for this belief is, I see.

It's possible that you're just ignorant. But I can pretty much guarantee that your source is racist and antisemitic.

Prove me wrong.

Well, that was a quote from Winston Churchill.

I find the best sources are historical and, especially, Russian, though I'm sure you're trying to imply my sources (from decades of reading about history) must be Stormfront or some such. The parts I've read of Solzhenitsyn's "200 Years Together" also discuss this issue but he was labeled a "fascist" and "anti-semite" for daring to write it, so there's that. Whatever.


Now, as for Jews and the Bolsheviks, here's a source I'm not familiar with (just found it) but many of these names I have read in other material on the October revolution. It would have to be fact checked to verify the accuracy but I'm betting that it is accurate:

Central Committee of the Bolshevik Party was made up as follows:

NAME NATIONALITY

Bronstein (Trotsky) Jew
Apfelbaum (Zinovief) Jew
Lourie (Larine) Jew
Ouritski Jew
Volodarski Jew
Rosenfeldt (Kamanef) Jew
Smidovitch Jew
Sverdlof (Yankel) Jew
Nakhamkes (Steklof) Jew
Ulyanov (Lenin) Russian
Krylenko Russian
Lounatcharski Russian
“The Council of the People’s Commissars comprises the following:

MINISTRY NAME NATIONALITY

President Ulyanov (Lenin) Russian
Foreign Affairs Tchitcherine Russian
Nationalities Djugashvili (Stalin) Georgian
Agriculture Protian Armenian
Economic Council Lourie (Larine) Jew
Food Schlichter Jew
Army & Navy Bronstein (Trotsky) Jew
State Control Lander Jew
State Lands Kauffman Jew
Works V. Schmidt Jew
Social Relief E. Lelina (Knigissen) Jewess
Public Instruction Lounatcharsky Russian
Religions Spitzberg Jew
Interior Apfelbaum (Zinovief) Jew
Hygiene Anvelt Jew
Finance Isidore Goukovski Jew
Press Volodarski Jew
Elections Ouritski Jew
Justice I. Steinberg Jew
Refugees Fenigstein Jew
Refugees (assist.) Savitch Jew
Refugees (assist.) Zaslovski Jew
“The following is the list of members of the Central Executive Committee:

NAME NATIONALITY

Sverdlov (president) Jew
Avanessof (sec.) Armenian
Bruno Lett
Babtchinski Jew
Bukharin Russian
Weinberg Jew
Gailiss Jew
Ganzburg Jew
Danichevski Jew
Starck German
Sachs Jew
Scheinmann Jew
Erdling Jew
Landauer Jew
Linder Jew
Wolach Czech
Dimanstein Jew
Encukidze Georgian
Ermann Jew
Joffe Jew
Karkline Jew
Knigissen Jew
Rosenfeldt (Kamenef) Jew
Apfelbaum (Zinovief) Jew
Krylenko Russian
KrassikofSachs Jew
Kaprik Jew
Kaoul Lett
Ulyanov (lenin) Russian
Latsis Jew
Lander Jew
Lounatcharski Russian
Peterson Lett
Peters Lett
Roudzoutas Jew
Rosine Jew
Smidovitch Jew
Stoutchka Lett
Nakhamkes (Steklof) Jew
Sosnovski Jew
Skrytnik Jew
Bronstein (Trotsky) Jew
Teodorovitch Jew
Terian Armenian
Ouritski Jew
Telechkine Russian
Feldmann Jew
Froumkine Jew
Souriupa Ukranian
Tchavtchevadze Georgian
Scheikmann Jew
Rosental Jew
Achkinazi Imeretian
Karakhane Karaim (Jew)
Rose Jew
Sobelson (Radek) Jew
Sclichter Jew
Schikolini Jew
Chklianski Jew
Levine (Pravdine) Jew

“The following is the list of members of the Extraordinary Commission of Moscow:

NAME NATIONALITY

Dzerjinski (president) Pole
Peters (vice-president) Lett
Chklovski Jew
Kheifiss Jew
Zeistine Jew
Razmirovitch Jew
Kronberg Jew
Khaikina Jewess
Karlson Lett
Schaumann Jew
Leontovitch Jew
Jacob Goldine Jew
Glaperstein Jew
Kniggisen Jew
Latzis Lett
Schillenkuss Jew
Janson Lett
Rivkine Jew
Antonof Russian
Delafabre Jew
Tsitkine Jew
Roskirovitch Jew
G. Sverdlof Jew
Biesenski Jew
Blioumkine Jew
Alexandrevitch Russian
I. Model Jew
Routenberg Jew
Pines Jew
Sachs Jew
Daybol Lett
Saissoune Armenian
Deylkenen Lett
Liebert Jew
Vogel German
Zakiss Lett

http://www.heretical.com/miscellx/bolshies.html

Here is Putin, speaking to Jews, about this fact:




This isn't some big secret and why you're protesting well documented facts I don't know.

[GunnyFreedom]

ZOMG!!11!11one da jooooz are gonna turn all the whites into soylent green!!11!11oneone!

[susano]

You think that I'm "politically correct" because I'm not obsessed with whiteness?

If I were talking about the genocide against north American tribes would say that's an obsession with "indianness"? How about if I talked about colonial genocide against Africans - would that be an obsession with "blackness"?

[GunnyFreedom]

If I were talking about the genocide against north American tribes would say that's an obsession with "indianness"? How about if I talked about colonial genocide against Africans - would that be an obsession with "blackness"?

Early Americans actually did try to genocide the Indians. Africans are mostly killing Africans. Your vision of a Jewish new world EU trying to genocide "whites" is a figment of your own meticulously constructed fantasy world, and reveals more about the rottenness at the core of your own soul than anything else.

[timosman]

ZOMG!!11!11one da jooooz are gonna turn all the whites into soylent green!!11!11oneone!

Just more deeversite.

[susano]

You may show me an isolated incident of a text book going to Afghanistan as I have no idea what you're talking about, but it is simply incorrect to suggest that the U.S. had any direct involvement in radicalizing Afghanistan during the soviet war.

The U.S. flew almost completely blind in that ordeal. We poured money into Afghanistan through Pakistan and never asked how they spent it. Pakistan was the decision makers and they saw fit to back the Mujahideen rather than more secular groups fighting the soviets because they thought they could control the Pashto tribesmen. Pakistan is the party that invited Wahabi teachers to madrasas for refugee Afghan and Pashto children. Sure, the U.S. was complicit, but Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are responsible for the lion's share of that mess.

The story of radicalization in Afghanistan is jut a blurb in "The Great Game" that has roots long before the Unites States was any kind of player in international affairs.

Interesting point. The US didn't create and spread the ideology. What it did do was to parlay the Mujahideen resistance to the Soviets into an international army of terrorist proxies.

[timosman]

Interesting point. The US didn't create and spread the ideology. What it did do was to parlay the Mujahideen resistance to the Soviets into an international army of terrorist proxies.

[susano]

I was just thinking of that video, timosman. Brzezinski could rightly be called the father of international terror.

[silverhandorder]

Early Americans actually did try to genocide the Indians. Africans are mostly killing Africans. Your vision of a Jewish new world EU trying to genocide "whites" is a figment of your own meticulously constructed fantasy world, and reveals more about the rottenness at the core of your own soul than anything else.

Except Indian attacks on whites were orders of magnitude more horrific then the other way around. You been drinking from blame whity for everything bad coolaid.

Africans owe a lot to whites who ended slavery around the world. Again more coolaid.

[Zippyjuan]

Interesting. Whites didn't own slaves, they freed them? Who were the previous slave owners?

Why do you think that Native Americans attacked white settlements? They only took their land and killed of the animals they relied on for food. How would you respond to that situation?

(Molyneux doesn't worry about facts that much- he usually just rambles- despite what he says at the beginning of his videos- he does not have the real truth).

[silverhandorder]

Interesting. Whites didn't own slaves, they freed them? Who were the previous slave owners?

Why do you think that Native Americans attacked white settlements? They only took their land and killed of the animals they relied on for food. How would you respond to that situation?

(Molyneux doesn't worry about facts that much).

Well first watch the video. Whites found a lot of natives were decimated by the spread of their germs long before they came in contact with natives. In many cases they treated them with compassion because of this.

Whites, blacks, Arabs all owned slaves. Whites ended it.

[GunnyFreedom]

Except Indian attacks on whites were orders of magnitude more horrific then the other way around. You been drinking from blame whity for everything bad coolaid.

Africans owe a lot to whites who ended slavery around the world. Again more coolaid.

The only place I am "blaming whitey" is in the bowels of your fevered imagination.

It's crap like this that convinces me you and your ilk are full of baloney sausage.