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    Trump Has Given Fake Diamond Cufflinks to Charlie Sheen, Roy Cohn, and ... ?

    Hey look, more evidence indicating Trump isn't worth a fraction of the $10 BN perpetuated lie around here.

    After one Cohn coup, Mr. Trump rewarded him with a pair of diamond-encrusted cuff links and buttons in a Bulgari box.

    And if Mr. Cohn did not always feel comfortable charging a friend for his services, Mr. Trump was hardly one to put up a fight.

    "Roy said, 'I'll leave it to Donald to give me what he thinks is fair,'" Mr. Fraser recalled of one lengthy Trump tax case in particular. "But, of course, Donald didn't give him anything." [...]

    Mr. Fraser inherited all of Mr. Cohn's possessions: the townhouse, his weekend place in Greenwich, Conn., his Rolls-Royce, his private plane and much more. But the Internal Revenue Service, collecting on Mr. Cohn's tax debts, confiscated nearly everything.

    He did get to keep the cuff links Mr. Trump had given Mr. Cohn. Years later, Mr. Fraser had them appraised; they were knockoffs, he said.
    "I want to give you an early wedding gift," Trump told Sheen at a dinner party, according to Sheen. "He says, 'These are platinum, diamond, Harry Winston,' and he pulls off his cufflinks, and he gives them to me."

    Sheen said an appraiser later told him that "in their finest moment, this is cheap pewter and bad zirconia. And they're stamped Trump."

    "What does this really say about the man, you know, that he said here's this great wedding gift, and it's just a bag of dog s---?" Sheen asked.

    That's a good question—one that a lot of Republicans are probably asking after waking up Tuesday morning to find out that the man who promised to spend $1 billion of his own money to beat Hillary Clinton only raised $3 million in May while spending $1 million reimbursing Trump properties with campaign cash (including $423,000 on renting out Trump's private club Mar-a-Lago).

    "If @realDonaldTrump were fractionally as rich as he says he is, he would write a $200mm check to propel his campaign. He doesn't have the cash," billionaire Mark Cuban wrote on Twitter.
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/trump-...rticle/2002943



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    So crackheads support Hillary. Go figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    So crackheads support Hillary. Go figure.
    Yes.

    And Trump is a compulsive liar, has poor character, and is broke. Go figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fcreature View Post
    Yes.

    And Trump is a compulsive liar, has poor character, and is broke. Go figure.
    ALways about the money with liberals. Better to be a cash poor entrepreneur than a millionaire who never worked an honest day in her life.

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    Weakly Standard article.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    "What does this really say about the man, you know, that he said here's this great wedding gift, and it's just a bag of dog s---?" Sheen asked.
    What does it say about the man, you know, who says anything except, "Thank you!" about a gift he received?

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    ALways about the money with liberals.
    Which explains why Trump is so focused on his wealth. Because he's a liberal. Thank you for admitting it.

    I'm not sure why I'm going to bother explaining this to you, because you already know it.

    His money is entirely relevant to the conversation because Trump has made it a defining character of his campaign. He brags about it daily. He uses his wealth as the basis of why he should be elected. His supporters believe he is worth $10 BN and even on these forums, perpetuate that lie. Whenever called out on it they are silent. There have been several threads to discuss the topic of his wealth, and guess what the Trump supporters do? They don't engage the subject or purposefully derail the threads. I'm still waiting for an honest evaluation of Trump's wealth from this forum and I'll continue to post material relevant to that.

    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Better to be a cash poor entrepreneur than a millionaire who never worked an honest day in her life.
    No argument there. I agree. But that's not the point and you know it. This has nothing to do with Hillary.

    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Weakly Standard article.
    So? Just the response I expect from you. Attack the source rather than comment on the material. Please give me a list of Donnay approved sources so that I can keep them in mind for future posts.

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    Bill Kristol: I Would Rather See Hillary Win Than Trump
    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/bil.../02/id/717115/
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    ALways about the money with liberals. Better to be a cash poor entrepreneur than a millionaire who never worked an honest day in her life.
    The point of the post is not necessarily about the money, the point is that he is not being honest about his wealth. The same point could be made with how he brags about being successful in business when his track record is littered with bankruptcies and failed businesses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    The point of the post is not necessarily about the money, the point is that he is not being honest about his wealth. The same point could be made with how he brags about being successful in business when his track record is littered with bankruptcies and failed businesses.
    5 out of approximately 500. That's 1%. For an entrepreneur that's an excellent track record.

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    I am not a Trumps supporter, but the never-ending assault by the media on the right's candidate while ignoring the left is infuriating. Even on his worst day, I think Trump would be better for business than Hillary would.

    When we get to the point that we see an anti-Hillary "expose" for every anti-Trump piece that's posted, then maybe I won't care. But I saw the media do the same crap to Ron Paul and even Mitt Romney, and I hate to see people here simply parroting the brain dead left's social media chatter of the day.

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    Donald Trump Bragged to Press He Made a Fortune in 1984, Told the IRS It Was Zero

    The year that he emerged on the New York real-estate scene as a playboy cash cow, Trump’s tax returns said he made zero income.

    In 1984, Donald Trump constantly bragged to the press about how much cash he was raking in. That same year, as David Cay Johnston exclusively reported in The Daily Beast, he told the IRS he had made nothing at all.

    Trump deducted $626,264 as expenses on his 1984 federal income tax return, and $619,227 on his New York City return. On both forms, he claimed no income.

    It was a pivotal year for the 37-year-old magnate on the make, one in which he was celebrating the opening of his seminal Trump Tower, closing a casino-hotel deal in then-booming Atlantic City and angling to topple the NFL with his ill-fated purchase of the United States Football League’s New Jersey Generals. He’d made himself a near-daily figure in New York news and gossip pages, often depicted as an egomaniacal wild man who shot from the hip and raked in the bucks as he shoved and nudged his way to the top of the real-estate world.

    Young Trump wasn’t shy about talking up his income, either.

    ...
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-was-zero.html
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    5 out of approximately 500. That's 1%. For an entrepreneur that's an excellent track record.
    Exactly. I hate the fact that I have to defend him, but FFS - HIllary has started wars. People have literally died as the result of decisions she's made.

    But Trump had to throw in the towel on a few ventures that didn't pan out? How many crap programs has the government started then abandoned? Pretty much none, because they just keep throwing more money into them.

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    So he structured his finances to minimize his income taxes. Yeah, I'm sure that pisses the left off. He didn't pay his fair share. Honestly, if he "cheated" the federal government out of billions of dollars and somehow stayed out of jail, he's my hero, not my enemy.


    This is why the left wins. Unless we can get a candidate that can make the left play defense like they do with the Republicans, there's no wins to be had.
    Last edited by angelatc; 06-22-2016 at 11:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    So he structured his finances to minimize his income taxes. Yeah, I'm sure that pisses the left off.


    This is why the left wins. Unless we can get a candidate that can make the left play defense like they do with the Republicans, there's no wins to be had.
    He's most likely been doing that every year, and claiming negative income. Al the while he's taking federal funding in the 100's of millions to build new apartments.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    5 out of approximately 500. That's 1%. For an entrepreneur that's an excellent track record.
    5 what? Madoff probably only has one business failure in his life, does that mean he has an excellent track record?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    He's most likely been doing that every year, and claiming negative income. Al the while he's taking federal funding in the 100's of millions to build new apartments.
    Why are feds funding apartments?

    You attacking him over feds shows where you stand. That is you want communist paradise. This is like the 4 th time I catch you using left terminology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Exactly. I hate the fact that I have to defend him, but FFS - HIllary has started wars. People have literally died as the result of decisions she's made.

    But Trump had to throw in the towel on a few ventures that didn't pan out? How many crap programs has the government started then abandoned? Pretty much none, because they just keep throwing more money into them.
    And people have died from the policies Trump has supported. Are you going to tell me that Trump wouldn't have started the Iraq and Libyan war had he been president when those happened? He was on record advocating for both wars before the White house made a decision to strike.

    The only difference between war criminal Hillary and Trump is that Trump hasn't had the opportunity to be a war criminal and I for one will not give him that opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    He's most likely been doing that every year, and claiming negative income. Al the while he's taking federal funding in the 100's of millions to build new apartments.
    Well, what are you mad about? The fact that he isn't paying "his fair share?" The fact that he accepted the same subsidies other developers were getting? Or the fact that the government was handing them out?
    Last edited by angelatc; 06-22-2016 at 11:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Well, what are you made about? The fact that he isn't paying "his fair share?" The fact that he accepted the same subsidies other developers were getting? Or the fact that the government was handing them out?
    I'm not made, I'm sure some are though.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    5 what? Madoff probably only has one business failure in his life, does that mean he has an excellent track record?
    Well, there's no arguing with logic like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    I'm not made, I'm sure some are though.
    Typo - i fixed it. So what are you mad about? The fact that he isn't paying his "fair share?" The fact that he accepted subsidies that other developers were getting? Or that the government was handing them out to begin with?



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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Well, there's no arguing with logic like that.
    Like Molyenux used to say, that is not an argument. I never never said it was sound logic just turning it around on you guys who think 5 bankruptcies, 5 business failures or 5 whatever out of 300 is a sign of excellent business track record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Typo - i fixed it. So what are you mad about? The fact that he isn't paying his "fair share?" The fact that he accepted subsidies that other developers were getting? Or that the government was handing them out to begin with?
    I'm not mad. I'm sure some people are though.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    Well, what are you mad about? The fact that he isn't paying "his fair share?" The fact that he accepted the same subsidies other developers were getting? Or the fact that the government was handing them out?
    Maybe the fact that he is not paying his fair share while calling for tax increase on the rich most of whom are paying their fair share.


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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    Like Molyenux used to say, that is not an argument.

    just turning it around on you guys who think 5 bankruptcies, 5 business failures or 5 whatever out of 300 is a sign of excellent business track record.
    Don't try and use Molyneux arguments when you don't ever understand his arguments.

    What percentage of businesses fail in the first year?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
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    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Don't try and use Molyneux arguments when you don't ever understand his arguments.

    What percentage of businesses fail in the first year?
    5 out of 300? Also, I watch a lot of Molyneux to know the sort of argument he uses like "not an argument" Which if you ask me, he misuses it.
    Last edited by juleswin; 06-22-2016 at 11:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juleswin View Post
    And people have died from the policies Trump has supported. Are you going to tell me that Trump wouldn't have started the Iraq and Libyan war had he been president when those happened? He was on record advocating for both wars before the White house made a decision to strike.

    The only difference between war criminal Hillary and Trump is that Trump hasn't had the opportunity to be a war criminal and I for one will not give him that opportunity.
    I have no delusions about Trump's empire building tendencies. My point is simply that the media onslaught against Trump is incredibly biased, and the noise is about things that are essentially irrelevant to the issues. FFS - Obama gave the Queen an iPod. and prematurely returned an item they loaned us.

    Hillary's husband is a sexual predator.

    But they sure don't drown us in that noise.

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