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    Islamic extremist kills 50 at Orlando gay nightclub

    'Islamic extremist' Omar Mateen, 29, from Florida, shoots dead at least 50 at Florida gay club after bursting in 'wearing a suicide vest' and taking hostages - injuring a further 53 - before he is killed

    Law enforcement sources have identified the shooter as US citizen Omar Mateen, from Port St. Lucie in Florida
    He killed at least 50 people and injured 53 and took party-goers hostage before being killed by police
    Shooter, believed to be in his 20s, was carrying a suspicious device, possibly a suicide vest, when he attacked
    Police used an explosive device to distract the gunman and rescue around 30 people who had been taken hostage
    Police engaged in gunfire with the man and an officer was shot in the head, but he was saved by his helmet
    FBI says gunman may have 'leanings to radical Islamic terrorism' and it is being investigated as 'an act of terrorism'
    Took place four miles from where The Voice singer Christina Grimmie, 22, was shot dead at The Plaza Live on Friday

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-hostages.html
    Last edited by randomname; 06-12-2016 at 08:36 AM.



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    Outlaw Islam!

    Ban jihad!

    Regulate Muslims!

    Oh wait............A h o m o bar you say?

    Nevermind......

    What's a WASP to do when the Muslims are killing the q u e e r s?

    Clearly more government is the only answer........

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    Well Florida just went Trump. I guarantee it.

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    ISIS Cheers Orlando #Pulse Nightclub Massacre – Warns of More Attacks on Disbelievers

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...pulse-hashtag/

    Last edited by randomname; 06-12-2016 at 07:35 AM.

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    So it's another one of those US citizen wackos who read about it on the internet and went out killing? It's a crime not foreign terrorism.

    But let's just nuke wherever he or his grandparents came from just to be sure...

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverhandorder View Post
    Well Florida just went Trump. I guarantee it.
    Florida just signed on to Clinton's gun control program, even though it's the same as Trump's. Chuck Todd and Tom Brokaw just guaranteed it.

    Makes more sense than what you said...
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    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Updated to 50 dead with 50 injured/wounded.

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    His father alleges he saw two men kissing and became enraged.

    I guess that means we can look forward to whether a latent who keeps trying to obey his religion until he snaps qualifies as 'Islamic Terrorism'. In fact, it just began--with the alternative being 'hate crime'--although they aren't acknowledging the self hate of latency, of course (at least not on NBC).
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.



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    Reports are this is a drill that went live.
    “[T]he enshrinement of constitutional rights necessarily takes certain policy choices off the table.” (Heller, 554 U.S., at ___, 128 S.Ct., at 2822.)

    How long before "going liberal" replaces "going postal"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Florida just signed on to Clinton's gun control program, even though it's the same as Trump's. Chuck Todd and Tom Brokaw just guaranteed it.

    Makes more sense than what you said...

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    In before the idiot bible thumpers show up.
    A sense of danger gives birth to fear. And fear is the time-honored cross for the crucifixion of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twomp View Post
    In before the idiot bible thumpers show up.
    Oh, let's not just get in here before they show up, let's give them something to choke on:

    Extreme Christian fundamentalists and extreme Islamic fundamentalists are the same thing, and either can breed a repressed latent so conflicted that he can do this sort of thing. Extremist Christian fundamentalists are just lucky that this one isn't one of theirs.
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    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    You must spread some reputation around before giving it to acptulsa again.
    A sense of danger gives birth to fear. And fear is the time-honored cross for the crucifixion of liberty.

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    Fifty people killed in at Florida nightclub

    Another mass shooting, in Florida. They are calling it a terror attack, but of course there's no doubt it well be use to try to pass new gun control, like the one's that failed to pass after Sandy Hook back in 2013.

    A gunman killed 50 people and injured 53 in a crowded gay nightclub in the tourist hub of Orlando, Florida.
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/12/us/orl...club-shooting/




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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan View Post
    Please not springboard off of this tragedy to bash people that had nothing to do with it.

    Thanks.
    Understand, but we all know that's what the government is going to be doing VERY soon.
    Be careful when you pry my gun from my cold dead hands, the barrel will be hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chudrockz View Post
    Understand, but we all know that's what the government is going to be doing VERY soon.
    Probably so, no need to help them.

    No doubt this will be used for more gun grabs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan View Post
    Probably so, no need to help them.

    No doubt this will be used for more gun grabs.
    And more surveillance - if that's possible.
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    This deserves investigation.

    I suspect that this was so easy for the handlers that they got sloppy.

    Someone was working this kid,, someone armed him. Someone nearby.
    and someone pushed the button.

    It goes beyond religion.. but religion (any of them) is an easy tool for manipulation.

    It is not the religion,,but the spirit behind it.

    I do wonder how many victims were shot by police?

    Reading several reports, he did not fire enough bullets to account for the injuries.
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    Drill gone live reports in 3, 2, 1, ....
    “[T]he enshrinement of constitutional rights necessarily takes certain policy choices off the table.” (Heller, 554 U.S., at ___, 128 S.Ct., at 2822.)

    How long before "going liberal" replaces "going postal"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsat_98 View Post
    Drill gone live reports in 3, 2, 1, ....
    Can't say.

    But I do wonder how many victims were shot by police?

    Reading several reports, he did not fire enough bullets to account for the injuries.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    The father is saying the shooter just disliked gays. That would be more of a hate crime than terrorism.



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    I don't understand the state of emergency.

    ...

    "It appears he was organized and well-prepared," Orlando Police Chief John Mina said early Sunday. The shooter had an assault-type weapon, a handgun and "some type of (other) device on him."

    ...

    Orlando Mayor Buddy Dyer said he had declared a state of emergency for the city and has requested the governor do the same for the state.

    ...
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/12/us/orl...club-shooting/
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
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    My opinion is this is nothing more than a "two fer". A radical Islamic chose the target as a terrorist and a homosexual target or the other way around.

    There is no doubt this is a terror attack and not a hate crime. The LGBT was just a bonus for him.

    He was to well trained, armed and methodical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by randomname View Post
    Well of course the intelligence services are saying ISIS had a hand in it.

    But unless you work for the MSM, all intel reports will get you is the same right to spend five bucks on coffee as everyone else.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was previously investigated by the FBI

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/12/us/orl...r-omar-mateen/

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    The father is saying the shooter just disliked gays. That would be more of a hate crime than terrorism.
    Was his father his handler?
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    It's all about Freedom

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