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    Sanders camp: Discussions underway for Trump debate

    Bernie Sanders’s campaign manager says “back-channel conversations” are underway with Donald Trump’s staff about setting up a bipartisan debate between the two presidential candidates.

    “I think it would benefit voters from across the country and I have to believe it would be one of the most-watched debates in presidential politics,” Jeff Weaver said Thursday on MSNBC.

    “Let's see if he has the courage to go one-on-one with Bernie Sanders,” he added.

    The Sanders campaign is seeking to ramp up pressure on Trump to follow through on his Wednesday night remarks to late-night talk-show host Jimmy Kimmel.

    Trump, the presumptive GOP nominee, said he’d be open to debating Sanders if the proceeds went to charity.

    Sanders’s camp seized on the remarks and is trying to pressure the businessman to follow through.

    “The senator wants to do it,” Sanders spokesman Michael Briggs told The Hill. “We’ll see if Trump meant what he said.”
    more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...r-trump-debate



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    Trump has graciously declined:

    Based on the fact that the Democratic nominating process is totally rigged and Crooked Hillary Clinton and Deborah Wasserman Schultz will not allow Bernie Sanders to win, and now that I am the presumptive Republican nominee, it seems inappropriate that I would debate the second place finisher," Trump said. "Likewise, the networks want to make a killing on these events and are not proving to be too generous to charitable causes, in this case, women’s health issues. Therefore, as much as I want to debate Bernie Sanders - and it would be an easy payday - I will wait to debate the first place finisher in the Democratic Party, probably Crooked Hillary Clinton, or whoever it may be.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Trump has graciously declined:
    Quelle surprise.

    GJ is right about one thing: Trump is a p*ssy.

    Can't be depended on to follow through on a position/commitment for even 48 hours.
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    H. L. Mencken said it best:


    “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.”


    "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

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    Why would he want to debate Sanders? You hit up; not down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Why would he want to debate Sanders? You hit up; not down.
    Because he said that he would?

    If he didn't want to "hit down" then he shouldn't have made the proposal in the first place. No follow-through. What a great leadership credential.
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    H. L. Mencken said it best:


    “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.”


    "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

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    Quote Originally Posted by francisco View Post
    Because he said that he would?

    If he didn't want to "hit down" then he shouldn't have made the proposal in the first place. No follow-through. What a great leadership credential.
    Oh come on, guys. You are really reaching now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Oh come on, guys. You are really reaching now.
    Hardly. This is just one more example in a long litany in which Trump can never be depended on to hold to anything he says. It is diagnostic regarding his character, and it is disqualifying.
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    H. L. Mencken said it best:


    “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.”


    "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

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    Quote Originally Posted by francisco View Post
    Because he said that he would?

    If he didn't want to "hit down" then he shouldn't have made the proposal in the first place. No follow-through. What a great leadership credential.
    Trump's not good at follow through. I've read where some veterans are still waiting on some promised funds.
    Last edited by phill4paul; 05-27-2016 at 05:36 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by francisco View Post
    Because he said that he would?

    If he didn't want to "hit down" then he shouldn't have made the proposal in the first place. No follow-through. What a great leadership credential.
    Yeah and he said he would because he wants their support over Clinton. He realized that he can piss more people off into voting against Clinton by talking about how rigged it is then by actually discussing his policies as a better solution to socialism.

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    He was foolish to accept the idea in the first place, but wise to turn it down. Trump is the nominee; Bernie is not and will never be. The only person who would gain anything from this debate would be Sanders. There's a certain percentage of Bernie supporters who will jump ship and vote for Trump; probably not too many, but some will. Trump could only alienate that contingent in a debate and turn them away from him. That's assuming he wins. If he loses, then that gives the Dems and the #NeverTrump crowd a huge weapon in their arsenal against him. "He gets squashed by number two, how can you trust him against number one?!" It was a bad decision to say he'd do it, but at least he didn't follow up a bad call with an even worse one.
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    I think he may have messed up whatever chance he had with Bernie supporters with this right here:

    Donald Trump would allow Keystone XL pipeline and end Paris climate deal
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Bernie is a loser. Trump needs to stop with his histrionics and attention seeking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    I think he may have messed up whatever chance he had with Bernie supporters with this right here:

    Donald Trump would allow Keystone XL pipeline and end Paris climate deal
    Nobody cares.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...76#post6225776

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaleoLibertarian View Post
    He was foolish to accept the idea in the first place, but wise to turn it down. Trump is the nominee; Bernie is not and will never be. The only person who would gain anything from this debate would be Sanders. There's a certain percentage of Bernie supporters who will jump ship and vote for Trump; probably not too many, but some will. Trump could only alienate that contingent in a debate and turn them away from him. That's assuming he wins. If he loses, then that gives the Dems and the #NeverTrump crowd a huge weapon in their arsenal against him. "He gets squashed by number two, how can you trust him against number one?!" It was a bad decision to say he'd do it, but at least he didn't follow up a bad call with an even worse one.
    I was flipping channels this afternoon and caught Trump's speech in San Diego. C-SPAN had open phones afterwards, with separate lines for Repubs, Dems and Independents. I was shocked that every single caller, besides one, was going to vote for Trump. Dems who hated Hillary, all the way down the line...
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    Brawndo's got what plants crave. Its got electrolytes.



    H. L. Mencken said it best:


    “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.”


    "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

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    He was never going to debate Sanders. The purpose was to marginalize Hillary. While people were talking about the debate they were completely ignoring the fact that it would be Hillary who was going against Trump in the general. Still a bit childish of Trump to propose a debate on issues that he knew he would never go through with.



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    Tech company offers the $10 million charity donation

    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/05/...rs-debate.html
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Tech company offers the $10 million charity donation

    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/05/...rs-debate.html
    Haha! Now Trump's dug himself another hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJ Liberty View Post
    Haha! Now Trump's dug himself another hole.
    According to a companion article, Trump said he wanted Bernie's campaign to put up the money. I didn't interpret it that way. Did anyone else?
    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/05/...0-million.html
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    I think he may have messed up whatever chance he had with Bernie supporters with this right here:

    Donald Trump would allow Keystone XL pipeline and end Paris climate deal
    The keystone will be built. Most of it already is. It's just the northern portion that remains and it will be built. And many Bernie supporters will benefit from the keystone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliPsy View Post
    The keystone will be built. Most of it already is. It's just the northern portion that remains and it will be built. And many Bernie supporters will benefit from the keystone.
    He also said he would get out of the Paris deal while at the same time attacking environmentalists; without going into the logistics over why he will not be able to actually do that, taking a position like that is a major deal breaker for Bernie supporters. They would rather back Clinton than support a GW denier.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    He also said he would get out of the Paris deal while at the same time attacking environmentalists; without going into the logistics over why he will not be able to actually do that, taking a position like that is a major deal breaker for Bernie supporters. They would rather back Clinton than support a GW denier.
    You will be proven wrong about that just as people were wrong about Trump's numbers going down after the other GOPe candidates dropped out. They said that the remaining GOPe candidates would win the supporters of the dropped out candidates but they were wrong. Trump won the lions share of them. Now he will be the clear winner of the nomination process after California. How much more wrong can you be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliPsy View Post
    You will be proven wrong about that just as people were wrong about Trump's numbers going down after the other GOPe candidates dropped out. They said that the remaining GOPe candidates would win the supporters of the dropped out candidates but they were wrong. Trump won the lions share of them. Now he will be the clear winner of the nomination process after California. How much more wrong can you be?
    Trump could not even win a majority until his home state on Apr 26. Kasich was splitting the anti-Trump vote the whole way, until a week later when Cruz dropped out.

    More people voted against Trump than any other GOP candidate in history:

    Last edited by CPUd; 05-28-2016 at 09:25 PM.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Trump could not even win a majority until his home state on Apr 26. Kasich was splitting the anti-Trump vote the whole way, until a week later when Cruz dropped out.

    More people voted against Trump than any other GOP candidate in history:

    Watch. You'll be proven wrong again. This is going to be a landslide because the American people are waking up and now have a vector to retake the country.



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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Trump could not even win a majority until his home state on Apr 26. Kasich was splitting the anti-Trump vote the whole way, until a week later when Cruz dropped out.

    More people voted against Trump than any other GOP candidate in history:


    That's an incredible statistic. And it shows how truly unpopular Trump really is, even in the GOP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliPsy View Post
    Watch. You'll be proven wrong again. This is going to be a landslide because the American people are waking up and now have a vector to retake the country.
    Can you name an important policy difference between Trump and Hillary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliPsy View Post
    Watch. You'll be proven wrong again. This is going to be a landslide because the American people are waking up and now have a vector to retake the country.
    How's he going to do that when he's only winning with old white folks?





    It's impossible for Trump to win without taking some of those blue states. Clinton can give him all the gray states and still win.
    Last edited by CPUd; 05-28-2016 at 09:38 PM.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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