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    TRENTON, N.J. (AP) — A New Jersey man who works for a private security company cannot get a permit to carry a handgun because of his driving record.

    An appeals court on Thursday upheld a lower court that found allowing Rahman Idlett to carry a weapon was "against the interest of the public health, safety and welfare" even though Perth Amboy police said he could.

    The judge found Idlett's license was suspended 15 times in the 15 years that he's been driving. He received 16 speeding tickets, two careless driving citations and other charges.

    The judge found Idlett had "one of the worst driving records" the judge had ever seen.

    Idlett represented himself and did not dispute his driving record or explain how the court had erred.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/bad-drive...336.html?nhp=1
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    Well the Constitution does say its fine to infringe the right to bear arms, if a judge thinks there its good reason for doing so.

    Pretty sure that's what it says.
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    Shall not be infringed .

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    Think of the children..

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    New Jermany...next to impossible to get a CCW "permit" there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Think of the children..
    Yes if the children (posterity)are lucky they will have gun privileges secured by the constitution.
    “[T]he enshrinement of constitutional rights necessarily takes certain policy choices off the table.” (Heller, 554 U.S., at ___, 128 S.Ct., at 2822.)

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    And there was much masturbating and other rejoicing throughout the land that evening.
    Through lives and lives shalt thou pay, O' king.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    New Jermany...next to impossible to get a CCW "permit" there.
    Meh... I carried without one for almost 20 years.
    Through lives and lives shalt thou pay, O' king.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    Meh... I carried without one for almost 20 years.
    In Jersey???
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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    In Jersey???
    And NYC, yes.
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    Default more to this than being too stupid to drive...

    I doubt we're hearing the whole story. His driving record was mentioned, but was most likely just part of a long list of $#@!-ups. Previously, he worked at a prison and was incompetent at that too - he was suspended repeatedly. Gun permit aside, Rahman Idlett obviously lacks intelligence and has no business being a security guard! Many people seek work as security guards because they are too stupid to pass the tests to be an actual cop. These people are very often mentally impaired.

    Rahman Idlett, Communications Operator Secured Facilities, East Jersey State Prison, Department of Corrections, three 15 working day suspensions, three removals effective October 20, 2010, October 29, 2010, and October 29, 2010, on charges of chronic or excessive absenteeism or lateness, unexcused lateness of 15 minutes or more, unsatisfactory attendance, and failure to follow call-off or call-on procedure and 30 working day suspension on charges of neglect of duty and sleeping on duty.
    http://www.state.nj.us/csc/about/mee...s/122111m.html
    The fact that it is being suggested that the Perth Amboy Police "said he could" doesn't say much. (and how was this determined? Is he a fired cop?) That police department has been taken over by social justice warriors and they may have based their decision on his foreign-sounding name… ya know - be PC, have "diversity".

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    NVM
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 08-04-2017 at 12:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    New Jermany...next to impossible to get a CCW "permit" there.
    No it isn't, it is remarkably easy. You just have to be a law enforcement person, retired law enforcement person, judge, govt lawyer or politician.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    No it isn't, it is remarkably easy. You just have to be a law enforcement person, retired law enforcement person, judge, govt lawyer or politician.
    But of course, what the hell was I thinking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    But of course, what the hell was I thinking?
    I think he was being sarcastic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    In Jersey???
    In Jersey anything's legal as long as you don't get caught
    go small or go home
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    Quote Originally Posted by loveshiscountry View Post
    In Jersey anything's legal as long as you don't get caught
    You got bigger balls than me brother.

    Exercise freedom at your own risk in New Jermany.
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    Even before this last year when Missouri became a constitutional carry state, Missouri had a pretty good ccw shall issue system. A friend of mine's son, who is about 30 or so now, applied for a ccw. The prick occupying the sheriff's office denied his application based on a little known ability for the sheriff to arbitrarily deny an applicant. My friend's son had a juvenile history of tom-foolery and stabbed an inflatible Stanta when he was in high school. He now owns a premier body shop in town and employs half a dozen people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    You got bigger balls than me brother.

    Exercise freedom at your own risk in New Jermany.
    Maybe you're right. I guess I'll go to Florida and get myself some sun. There ain't no more opportunity in Jersey, everything's been done
    go small or go home
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    Quote Originally Posted by loveshiscountry View Post
    Maybe you're right. I guess I'll go to Florida and get myself some sun. There ain't no more opportunity in Jersey, everything's been done
    I never thought I would really leave NJ (for various reasons).

    But the $#@!-ups in Trenton are making it almost impossible to stay.
    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    I never thought I would really leave NJ (for various reasons).

    But the $#@!-ups in Trenton are making it almost impossible to stay.
    Good for you. At least you know that you found freedom just across the Jersey Line. Easy as hopping into your car and taking Highway 99.
    go small or go home
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    No more comments on this? It's all right, I guess this is the End of the Line.
    go small or go home
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    The Consti... WHAT?
    Through lives and lives shalt thou pay, O' king.






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