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    Maduro orders seizure of closed Venezuela factories, jailing of owners

    Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro on Saturday ordered authorities to seize factories that have stopped production and jail their owners, a day after declaring a state of emergency to combat the country's economic crisis.

    "We must take all measures to recover productive capacity, which is being paralyzed by the bourgeoisie," he told a rally in Caracas.

    "Anyone who wants to halt (production) to sabotage the country should get out, and those who do must be handcuffed and sent to the PGV (Venezuelan General Penitentiary)," he said.

    Maduro also ordered military exercises to counter foreign threats.

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    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...cid=spartandhp
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    Jail the owners, lol, that will save the day. That place is toast.
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    Yep , total loss , gone .

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    Venezuela is going down what a shame it is. I saw a video by The Anarcast the other day talking about the money crisis there.

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    Maybe they should let in some illegal aliens and a bunch of "refugees". Because we all know, they help the economy of the nation they insert themselves in. Or some claim around here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Jail the owners, lol, that will save the day. That place is toast.
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    What's so frustrating is that I'm sure it's a beautiful country that could realistically have a vibrant tourism sector, but the government cannot get out of its own way.

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    Ought to make every progressive economics student spend a summer internship there.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ifthenwouldi View Post
    What's so frustrating is that I'm sure it's a beautiful country that could realistically have a vibrant tourism sector, but the government cannot get out of its own way.
    Welcome to Cuba, for the last 60 years.

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    ordered authorities
    Just something to set aside, for future reference.

    When a nation collapses, and people are rioting in the streets simply for food to survive, the cops will always have plenty of food and fuel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Just something to set aside, for future reference.

    When a nation collapses, and people are rioting in the streets simply for food to survive, the cops will always have plenty of food and fuel.
    ^^^^^^^^^ Pay attention! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Just something to set aside, for future reference.

    When a nation collapses, and people are rioting in the streets simply for food to survive, the cops will always have plenty of food and fuel.

    Funny, there was this book that I read once that totally illustrated this (and the subject of the OP title), what was the name of it? mmmm , Something Atlas, Atlas something, I think by some funny-named woman, it'll come to me..... /SARC

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    It seems to be like Atlas Shrugged in real life.

    Let anyone with a brain should get out while the looters eat each other alive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleaner44 View Post
    It seems to be like Atlas Shrugged in real life.

    Let anyone with a brain should get out while the looters eat each other alive.
    If they're able........

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    Coca-Cola forced to halt production in Venezuela over sugar shortage

    Coca-Cola is halting production of its namesake soft drink in Venezuela for the foreseeable future due to a shortage of sugar.

    The US company says it is being forced to take the action because it has run out of the raw material.

    Venezuela's economy is teetering on the edge of collapse with widespread food shortages and inflation forecast to surpass 700%.

    Last month, Venezuela's largest food and drinks company, Empresas Polar, stopped production of beer because it was unable to obtain enough imported barley.

    Coca-Cola said sugar-free drinks would be unaffected.

    The move comes after a week of violent clashes between security forces and supporters of the opposition to President Nicolas Maduro.

    Last week Mr Maduro imposed a 60-day state of emergency giving extra powers to police and soldiers.

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    http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2016/...?intcmp=hplnws
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Paul View Post
    The intellectual battle for liberty can appear to be a lonely one at times. However, the numbers are not as important as the principles that we hold. Leonard Read always taught that "it's not a numbers game, but an ideological game." That's why it's important to continue to provide a principled philosophy as to what the role of government ought to be, despite the numbers that stare us in the face.
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    This intellectually stimulating conversation is the reason I keep coming here.

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    Under Chavez things started out good. Poverty was reduced- literacy up, infant mortality and unemployment down. A high price for oil helped fund all of that. Now the entire economy is collapsing and social problems rising. Price controls helped reduce inflation but when they went below production costs, goods started disappearing. Shortages means the real prices of goods soared- last year the annual inflation rate was estimated to be over 250% and could double or triple this year.

    Last edited by Zippyjuan; 05-21-2016 at 06:16 PM.



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    ^^^^^^^^ Caution! Molyneux video ^^^^^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    ^^^^^^^^ Caution! Molyneux video ^^^^^^^^
    So the Venezuelans spanked their kids and made the economy collapse. Got it - thanks for the heads up!

    And as far as the "it's the oil prices, stupid!" argument, others say that's only a part of the problem, and that the beginning of the end predates the fall in oil prices.

    This is circa 2009:

    According to a February 2008 report from the Washington-based Center for Economic and Policy Research, not only has unemployment dropped, formal employment has increased significantly (PDF) since Chavez took office. But other economists express concerns about the country's high inflation levels. The IMF has forecast inflation of 25.7 percent in 2008 and 31.0 percent in 2009—among the highest rates for any country in the world—and according to news reports, the country is already experiencing food shortages of goods such as sugar and milk. Francisco Rodriguez, former chief economist of the Venezuelan National Assembly, writes in a 2008 Foreign Affairs article that income inequality has increased during Chavez's tenure, and further, Chavez's social programs have not had a significant impact on infant mortality rate or literacy rates among Venezuelans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifthenwouldi View Post
    What's so frustrating is that I'm sure it's a beautiful country that could realistically have a vibrant tourism sector, but the government cannot get out of its own way.
    pure socialism Bernie supporters.....look at what your future is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Ought to make every progressive economics student spend a summer internship there.
    safe spaces provided.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!



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