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    Trump Just Went Full Sanders — Calls for Increasing Minimum Wage and Higher Taxes

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    Matt Agorist May 9, 2016

    If there is one aspect of Donald Trump’s campaign that is consistent, it is his knack for being astonishingly inconsistent. Letting the world know that he fabricates his policy from the seat of his pants, Trump just made two massive u-turns.

    During an interview with NBC, Trump says he now supports a higher national minimum wage, and that he would raise taxes on the rich rather than lower them as he’s previously stated.

    “I don’t know how you live on $7.25 an hour,” he said, adding that he would support “an increase of some magnitude” in minimum wage levels, even if he’d rather leave the decision to individual states.

    In a seemingly deliberate move to shake up his supporters and test their loyalty, Trump gladly volunteered to up the ante on taxes by telling ABC’s This Week, “I am willing to pay more, and you know what, the wealthy are willing to pay more.”


    Trump’s call for higher taxes and increasing the minimum wage are in stark contrast to the rest of the Republican party.

    Just last year, Trump released his tax proposal that included tax breaks for businesses and households which subsequently led to his surge in popularity. However, he’s now reneged on those promises — and he hasn’t even been elected yet.

    When ABC pressed Trump on his contradictions in policy, he willfully admitted that his ideas are a mere “concept” and “by the time it gets negotiated, it’s going to be a different plan.”

    The campaign of Trump’s long-time friend and recipient of so much of his money, Hillary Clinton, called the recent flip-flopping “pandering.”

    “Don’t believe Donald Trump’s weak attempts at a general election ‘makeover’ for even a second,” Christina Reynolds, a Clinton campaign spokeswoman, said in a statement to Yahoo News. “Trump’s economic plans take direct aim at working Americans – his proposal to cut trillions in taxes for the top one percent would almost certainly come at the expense of working- and middle-class families.”

    While Trump’s recent 180 will be spun by his supporters as him protecting the middle class, it is entirely obvious that he is whoremongering. Having already usurped a large section of the liberty movement, Trump’s recent shift in policy can only be seen as an attempt to bring in the bastardized Bernie supporters who will be looking for “anyone buy Hillary” in a few months.

    As the presidential campaign continues, it’s becoming quite apparent that the American political system is in shambles. Not only were the presidential debates a circus that resembled a schoolyard quarrel more so than a discussion of government policy, but the entire election process has been exposed as rigged.

    It matters not the puppet who is selected to live in the White House. The problem is the system that puppet represents that will lay waste to your rights, bleed you dry, and then demand you thank them for the ‘help.’

    Until society sees outside of the system which relies on violence to solve its problems, this circus will continue. When the circus is not enough to appease the masses, we will see it accompanied by the proverbial ‘bread’ — followed by the collapse of the empire.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    In a seemingly deliberate move to shake up his supporters and test their loyalty, Trump gladly volunteered to up the ante on taxes by telling ABC’s This Week, “I am willing to pay more, and you know what, the wealthy are willing to pay more.”
    Great. Then pay more. You don't have to pass a law authorizing yourself to stick your slimy sausage fingers in anyone else's pockets to do that.

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    Y'all are just a bunch of GOPe cucks. Make America Great Again. Vote Trump!
    "The Patriarch"

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    But, but, but....he's going to put up a wall and get rid of all the illegal aliens and we'll be WINNING!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Y'all are just a bunch of GOPe cucks. Make America Great Again. Vote Trump!
    Quote Originally Posted by cajuncocoa View Post
    But, but, but....he's going to put up a wall and get rid of all the illegal aliens and we'll be WINNING!!
    Hell yeah!

    "Cucks", walls and $50.00hr for everybody 'cause this is the greatest country ever......

    My offer to provide free labor to lay block walling off DC in order to flood it still stands........

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Hell yeah!

    "Cucks", walls and $50.00hr for everybody 'cause this is the greatest country ever......

    My offer to provide free labor to lay block walling off DC in order to flood it still stands........
    Let me know if you need help.
    "The Patriarch"



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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Let me know if you need help.
    I'm all in....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Hell yeah!

    "Cucks", walls and $50.00hr for everybody 'cause this is the greatest country ever......

    My offer to provide free labor to lay block walling off DC in order to flood it still stands........
    We need to get a chip in going for supplies. I can offer some hands from here as well. We can make it a school project.
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    So long as mists envelop you, be still;
    be still until the sunlight pours through and dispels the mists
    -- as it surely will.
    Then act with courage.

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    Anybody know a good supply house in Va.?

    I'll bet the publicity and donations would be astronomical.......

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    This idea could be blimp eclipsing.......

    Cross party participation given the electorate.......

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    "Presumptive Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump on Monday defended his tax proposals, saying he does not plan to raise taxes on the wealthy.

    "Everybody is getting a tax cut, especially the middle class," Trump said on CNN's "New Day," pushing back on interviewer Chris Cuomo, who noted reports of Trump discussing increased taxes on the rich.
    "I said that I may have to increase it on the wealthy. I'm not going to allow it to be increased on the middle class," Trump continued.

    "Now, if I increase it on the wealthy, that means they're still going to pay less than they're paying now," he said. "I'm not talking about increasing from this point, I'm talking about increasing from my tax proposals."

    Under the candidate's plan, the tax rate for the wealthiest Americans would fall from 39.6 percent to 25 percent.

    But Trump indicated in interviews Sunday that taxes on the wealthy would rise after Congress reviews his proposal"
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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Anybody know a good supply house in Va.?

    I'll bet the publicity and donations would be astronomical.......
    It's kind of a joke but I think you are on to something. If you could just find some private property and start building it and get it into the news and on the internet I bet donations would flood in.
    "Some people think building a wall on the southern border would stop what they consider the greatest threat to the U.S. In comparison that threat is inconsequential with what happens within the confines of the District of Columbia. So I'm building a wall around these politicians. And then we are going to flood it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    "Presumptive Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump on Monday defended his tax proposals, saying he does not plan to raise taxes on the wealthy.

    "Everybody is getting a tax cut, especially the middle class," Trump said on CNN's "New Day," pushing back on interviewer Chris Cuomo, who noted reports of Trump discussing increased taxes on the rich.
    "I said that I may have to increase it on the wealthy. I'm not going to allow it to be increased on the middle class," Trump continued.

    "Now, if I increase it on the wealthy, that means they're still going to pay less than they're paying now,"
    he said. "I'm not talking about increasing from this point, I'm talking about increasing from my tax proposals."

    Under the candidate's plan, the tax rate for the wealthiest Americans would fall from 39.6 percent to 25 percent.

    But Trump indicated in interviews Sunday that taxes on the wealthy would rise after Congress reviews his proposal"
    I see, he probably confused increase with decrease. Cos in another interview, he said he and other rich folks like him wouldn't mind paying more taxes.

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    But don't worry. He's taking down the establishment by making sure there is no one left to fight against socialism.



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    Waiting for the "libertarian" Trump apologists to respond...Trump won't even wait until the convention to completely backtrack on everything he said. How stupid are the people who fell for this? Everyone should have seen this coming no?

    I just can't believe people who supported Ron have helped this man become the nominee, essentially destroying everything Ron worked for.
    Last edited by SilentBull; 05-09-2016 at 09:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentBull View Post
    Waiting for the "libertarian" Trump apologists to respond...Trump won't even wait until the convention to completely backtrack on everything he said. How stupid are the people who fell for this? Everyone should have seen this coming no?
    Have fun waiting. They conveniently go radio silent when presented with something even they cannot wiggle out of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fcreature View Post
    Have fun waiting. They conveniently go radio silent when presented with something even they cannot wiggle out of.
    It's so disgusting. People who I used to respect have exposed themselves as being some of the stupidest people on the planet. Supporting a man who is working to destroy everything the movement was about. Holy crap this will be even worse than anyone imagined.

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    Isn't this a good enough reason for the GOP to change the rules to unbind all delegates? If Trump makes it this obvious that he lied to everyone, there is a case to be made for "stealing" the nominating from him, no? The man committed fraud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentBull View Post
    Waiting for the "libertarian" Trump apologists to respond...Trump won't even wait until the convention to completely backtrack on everything he said. How stupid are the people who fell for this? Everyone should have seen this coming no?

    I just can't believe people who supported Ron have helped this man become the nominee, essentially destroying everything Ron worked for.
    "He's a realist. He knows exactly how the system works even though he is an outsider and is ant-establishment. He knows he will have to negotiate with Congress. But, he is a master negotiator. The best. A Wizard at negotiating. Simply the masterfullessest."

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    But does Trump have a blimp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by younglibertarian View Post
    But does Trump have a blimp?
    Blimps are passe, build a $#@!ing wall!

    Just build it around DC without any doors........

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    Here's an idea. Trump supporters shouldn't be allowed to post on any other threads before providing a satisfactory answer to this one here.



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    Why do all you guys hate America?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    Why do all you guys hate America?
    I love America but hate DC.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Blimps are passe, build a $#@!ing wall!

    Just build it around DC without any doors........
    "Mr. tod evans, put that wall up!" Ronald Reagan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Blimps are passe, build a $#@!ing wall!

    Just build it around DC without any doors........

    Wall? I have a better idea.....

    BUILD A DOME!


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    From last year...

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Rand is ahead of the curve on this. Most people wouldn't know how bad Trump would be until he was President. When Trump doesn't do the things he promised, and he starts to cut deals with the Democrats, will people get mad? When Trump uses the full force of government for personal vendettas, will people get mad?

    IMHO, Trump as President would be similar to Schwarzenegger as Governor. He would eventually work with the Democrats and essentially become a Democrat. The difference would be that Trump would probably be more vindictive and use government to go after critics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentBull View Post
    Here's an idea. Trump supporters shouldn't be allowed to post on any other threads before providing a satisfactory answer to this one here.
    I don't support Trump, but I'll do it for them.

    Danke already provided part of the answer - he plans to bring the tax rate on the rich down from 39% to 25% in his proposals, but is now saying it might need to be higher than 25%. I don't think Sanders wants to decrease the tax rate on the rich like Trump does.

    He does want to raise minimum wage, but not to $15/hr. Not sure what he thinks is reasonable, and I'm for abolishing the minimum wage, but the title "goes full Sanders" is not really accurate at all.
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