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    When will the inevitable endorsement come?

    Whether you like it or not, Trump is 99% guaranteed the GOP Nomination, and Rand has pledged to support the nominee, saying multiple times after dropping out that he would. The question is when will Rand endorse Trump and what would be the best time? Either now, at the 1237 point or at the convention. Don't diss me as a trump troll, it's just realism.



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    How should we know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse James View Post
    How should we know?
    By asking Matt.
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    Hopefully not before he actually wins the vote of the delegates at the convention. I see no reason at all for it to be any sooner than that.

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    There have been other threads regarding this issue. Another one is not needed or should be merged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    Hopefully not before he actually wins the vote of the delegates at the convention. I see no reason at all for it to be any sooner than that.
    ...I think it's actually the opposite, that there is no reason to endorse after the convention.
    If Rand wasn't in the same party or wasn't in a political position, then yeah, it's more appropriate to endorse after.
    But since he's a party member, he assumption is that he's going to support the nominee. So the only way for his endorsement to mean anything at all is if he does it before the convention.






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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    So the only way for his endorsement to mean anything at all is if he does it before the convention.
    That factored into my thinking. I want his endorsement of Trump to mean as little as possible.

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    He'll probably give a tacit endorsement in the next few days and that will be all that is said about it.
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    I hope he just "supports the Republican nominee" but never mentions him by name and doesn't call it an "endorsement".
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    Rand Paul's future endorsement of Donald Trump

    This thread is for discussion of the inevitable. Rand Paul will be endorsing Donald Trump

    Paul, during a visit to Northern Kentucky Friday morning, said he will support whoever is the Republican nominee, even if it’s Donald Trump. He said it’s better than supporting Democrat Hillary Clinton.
    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/04/0...s-the-nominee/

    So when do you all think the endorsement is going to come and what words will he say to support Trump? and what will his father say when he gets asked about it?

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    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    It will come before election day! Probably around the time of the official nomination like the Romney endorsement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by qh4dotcom View Post
    This thread is for discussion of the inevitable. Rand Paul will be endorsing Donald Trump



    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/04/0...s-the-nominee/

    So when do you all think the endorsement is going to come and what words will he say to support Trump? and what will his father say when he gets asked about it?
    Doesn't really matter at this point. I suggested he do it right after the Northeastern Primary and if he had followed my advice he would have looked like a Kingmaker. Now he's just a johnny-come-lately following the herd. Might as well make the announcement at the Bardstown Rotary breakfast for all the good it will do him.

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    Here's the proof it's happening soon:
    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/04/john-...test-news.html
    Ohio Gov. John Kasich plans to suspend his run to be the GOP presidential nominee, a senior campaign advisor told NBC News on Wednesday.
    but then it goes on to say
    "Our strategy has been and continues to be one that involves winning the nomination at an open convention," the Kasich campaign said.
    So there's still another guy in the race, and we have genuine confusion as to what his plans are for the near future since some people say he's out but the candidate himself hasn't said anything of the sort, so if history is any guide, it's the perfect time for Rand to endorse.

    I mean, I realize he's not related to Kasich, but all the other factors are there.
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    Rand should endorse now to maximize his media exposure. After the nomination his endorsement would just be in a sea of other forgettable endorsements.
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    He should meet with Trump first if he is going to go this route. Explain to the idiot how to beat Clinton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chieppa1 View Post
    He should meet with Trump first if he is going to go this route. Explain to the idiot how to beat Clinton.
    Does the guy in the four thousand dollar suit hold the elevator for the guy that doesn't make that much in three months? Come on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Rand should endorse now to maximize his media exposure. After the nomination his endorsement would just be in a sea of other forgettable endorsements.
    Pretty sure if he endorses, he will want to do it as quietly as possible.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulMall View Post
    Does the guy in the four thousand dollar suit hold the elevator for the guy that doesn't make that much in three months? Come on!
    Not sure what Trump's wealth and ability to lie to Republicans has to do with Rand's ability to explain to him how to beat Clinton. Which is simply to point out how terrible on everything she is and has been.
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  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Rand should endorse now to maximize his media exposure. After the nomination his endorsement would just be in a sea of other forgettable endorsements.
    WRT Trump a sea of other forgettable endorsements might be the best place to swim.

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    Someone knows how to handle it:
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Someone knows how to handle it:
    The quote....the small print is difficult to read....

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    no rush to get it over, imo
    Rand has a Senate race AND is a Kentucky delegate in July in Cleveland . . . he'll get to vote for Trump's VP pick, or not, then.



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    Rand should make the endorsement as quietly and as late as possible. If Trump loses the election, Rand can be among the "I told you so" crowd, and if Trump wins and has a terrible presidency (more likely), he will be in the clear about as much as possible. On the other hand, Rand should give an endorsement on the off chance that Trump wins and does a decent job, regardless of how tepid of an endorsement.

    The real question to ask is how butt-hurt are some people going to be if and when he makes the world's most tepid endorsement, and I fear the butt-hurt will be great with some.

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    Never, I hope.

    In normal times, it makes sense to give the nominee a pro forma endorsement, whoever it is.

    These aren't normal times.

    There's an opportunity for someone take up a leadership role among conservative anti-Trumpers.

    Who better than Rand?

    But, I expect he'll take the safe route and offer a very unenthusiastic pro forma endorsement, probably in the next couple weeks.

    This would be a strategic error, but I can understand why he'd do it.

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    He should only endorse if he gets something out of the deal, like a cabin position.

  32. #28
    Of course Rand will endorse Trump. Anything to further and maintain his political position, what a far cry that is from his father.

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by hells_unicorn View Post
    Rand should make the endorsement as quietly and as late as possible. If Trump loses the election, Rand can be among the "I told you so" crowd, and if Trump wins and has a terrible presidency (more likely), he will be in the clear about as much as possible. On the other hand, Rand should give an endorsement on the off chance that Trump wins and does a decent job, regardless of how tepid of an endorsement.

    The real question to ask is how butt-hurt are some people going to be if and when he makes the world's most tepid endorsement, and I fear the butt-hurt will be great with some.
    I agree with this. Rand has already said he will support the eventual nominee. So it is going to happen and the "butt-hurt" is wasted ache. Quietly and late. Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Never, I hope.

    In normal times, it makes sense to give the nominee a pro forma endorsement, whoever it is.

    These aren't normal times.

    There's an opportunity for someone take up a leadership role among conservative anti-Trumpers.

    Who better than Rand?

    But, I expect he'll take the safe route and offer a very unenthusiastic pro forma endorsement, probably in the next couple weeks.

    This would be a strategic error, but I can understand why he'd do it.
    Agree, and....

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