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    Reasons to Doubt the Official Osama Raid Story — Five Years Later


    Reasons to Doubt the Official Osama Raid Story — Five Years Later

    By Russ Baker

    Who.What.Why.

    May 3, 2016


    WhoWhatWhy exists in good part to serve as a kind of reality check. Its goal is to step outside the echo chamber, in which, no matter how improbable the “official” story, the media and the public reflexively accept it.

    WhoWhatWhy
    exists to remind us that the powerful — whether corporations or presidents or national security agencies — often exaggerate, cherry-pick facts, and even construct total falsehoods in service of their agenda.


    We see that again and again, with Vietnam, with Watergate, with Iraq, with the claimed reasons for invading Afghanistan, Libya and, through surrogates, Syria.


    The examples are legion. Each time the propaganda machine comes up with a new story, our society’s default response is to accept it. And the bigger the story, the harder it is for people to imagine they are being lied to. And the more discomfort it causes, the more cognitive dissonance kicks in. Then we rally around the flag — and lash out at the skeptics.


    Most recently, we encountered this with the Boston Marathon Bombing case, where so much doesn’t add up, but few seem to care.


    An earlier case, which comes to mind now because this is its fifth anniversary, was the May 2, 2011, raid on a compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. On that occasion, we were told, the United States avenged the greatest terrorist attack ever on its soil when U.S. special forces swooped into an allied foreign country and successfully killed the No. 1 archvillain of our time — Osama bin Laden.


    While the full range of media organizations, mainstream and “alternative,” accepted the government’s account, within hours of the raid, we began raising questions — and we have kept on doing so. You can read those early articles here:




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    The basic story, which changed repeatedly in the early hours and days following the raid, finally settled into a few bare bones. And that is all the public remembers:

    Relying on uncertain intelligence, President Obama made the risky decision to mount a raid into Pakistan without the consent or knowledge of the authorities there. Navy SEALs swooped in, killed bin Laden, and got out safely, after which bin Laden’s body was cleaned in accordance with Islamic law before being dumped in the Arabian Sea.

    Yet, if you actually look at what we’ve been told, you will find that it doesn’t make a lot of sense. And if it doesn’t make a lot of sense, we have two choices: 1) Contort the particulars until it kind of, sort of, seems to make sense; or 2) say that there may be something entirely different going on.

    First, let us recall that Osama bin Laden was not only a Saudi but from one of the kingdom’s most powerful, connected, protected families.

    Since that raid, new information has emerged about the U.S. protecting Saudi elites, even to the extent of covering up evidence of Saudi complicity with the 9/11 attacks. But the growing body of evidence that the Saudis have not been America’s friends, and that they worked closely with Al-Qaeda, has never been squared with the story of the Abbottabad raid.

    In that raid, we are told, the U.S. government relied on guidance from the Saudis as to what to do with Bin Laden and his body. This, we were told, was to avoid creating a shrine to Osama while also respecting Muslim customs — an odd claim given that such considerations never seem to have entered the picture in any other situation. Moreover, it would not have been so difficult to bury his body in an undisclosed location.

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    Russ Baker is an award-winning investigative reporter. He has written for The New Yorker, Vanity Fair, The Nation, The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Village Voice and Esquire and dozens of other major domestic and foreign publications. He has also served as a contributing editor to the Columbia Journalism Review. Baker received a 2005 Deadline Club award for his exclusive reporting on George W. Bush’s military record. He is the author of Family of Secrets: The Bush Dynasty, the Powerful Forces That Put It in the White House, and What Their Influence Means for America (Bloomsbury Press, 2009); it was released in paperback as Family of Secrets: The Bush Dynasty, America’s Invisible Government and the Hidden History of the Last Fifty Years. For more information on Russ’s work, see his sites, www.familyofsecrets.com and www.russbaker.com.


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    You don't find the supposed leader of the terrorist world, kill him without any questioning, and dump his body in the ocean before anybody can even see it or take a picture.
    Last edited by younglibertarian; 05-03-2016 at 08:41 AM.

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    loveshiscountry
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    In the last months of his life, an isolated Osama bin Laden was in a serious dispute with the two brothers who had been pretty much his only connection to the outside world for the previous eight years.

    The two brothers shopped for produce from local markets for bin Laden as well as for the dozen members of his family who were living with him.


    No one thought it would be a good idea to put a tail on the brothers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by younglibertarian View Post
    You don't find the supposed leader of the terrorist world, kill him without any questioning, and dump his body in the ocean before anybody can even see it or take a picture.
    Correct. Plus you don't show dumb videos of some guy watching dumb videos that looks nothing like Bin Laden and say it's Bin Laden watching dumb videos in his house as proof that bin Laden was in that house.

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    OBL died in Dec 2001- he was very ill and on dialysis.
    There is no spoon.

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    Doubt the official story?

    Stop trying to think. Don’t use logic. Just accept that it all makes ense.

    Washington invades Afghanistan on the objective to capture Osama Bin Laden and bring him to trial.

    No sooner had they gotten there than Washington abandons the hunt for Osama and instead occupies Afghanistan.
    Then Washington turn their sites to Iraq and invades Iraq.

    While Osama, a seriously ill individual that requires regular dialysis to survive, hides in caves and later escapes to Pakistan, eluding Washington for ten years.

    Then Washington makes a raid on Osama’s house where he has been purportedly living for years. Instead of capturing the sick man, they shoot him. They fly his body out.

    However in mid flight it is decided out of great respect for Muslim customs that he must be given a burial at sea, so they drop his body into the ocean.

    Yes Washington that has shown such great deference to adhere to Muslim customs (you know – things like Abu Graib torture, bombing mosques, bombing weddings, drone assassinations, invading nations , funding terrorists, overthrowing governments, etc.) suddenly decides it must destroy all evidence confirming the death of Osama, and drop him into the ocean which is against Muslim tradition. (Muslim tradition requires burial in the ground. At sea only if it is impossible le to bring the body to land).
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    Doubt the official story?

    Stop trying to think. Don’t use logic. Just accept that it all makes ense.

    Washington invades Afghanistan on the objective to capture Osama Bin Laden and bring him to trial.

    No sooner had they gotten there than Washington abandons the hunt for Osama and instead occupies Afghanistan.
    Then Washington turn their sites to Iraq and invades Iraq.

    While Osama, a seriously ill individual that requires regular dialysis to survive, hides in caves and later escapes to Pakistan, eluding Washington for ten years.

    Then Washington makes a raid on Osama’s house where he has been purportedly living for years. Instead of capturing the sick man, they shoot him. They fly his body out.

    However in mid flight it is decided out of great respect for Muslim customs that he must be given a burial at sea, so they drop his body into the ocean.

    Yes Washington that has shown such great deference to adhere to Muslim customs (you know – things like Abu Graib torture, bombing mosques, bombing weddings, drone assassinations, invading nations , funding terrorists, overthrowing governments, etc.) suddenly decides it must destroy all evidence confirming the death of Osama, and drop him into the ocean which is against Muslim tradition. (Muslim tradition requires burial in the ground. At sea only if it is impossible le to bring the body to land).
    Good points.

    Let us also forget that the Taliban agreed to deliver OBL to a trial as long as it was held in a neutral country. Bush said hell-no and bombed away.
    There is no spoon.



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