ADL urges Trump to drop 'America First' slogan

[enhanced_deficit]

Anyone think Trump will drop this "America First" stance/slogan after ADL protest:

Trump urged to drop 'America First' slogan due to anti-Semitic past - U.S. Election 2016

Haaretz‎ - 3 hours ago

ADL claims Trump's foreign policy slogan eerily similar to pre-war, anti-Semitic America First Committee.
Haaretz. Apr 29, 2016 2:15 AM.

“However, for many Americans, the term ‘America First’ will always be associated with and tainted by this history," he said, adding that "in a political season that already has prompted a national conversation about civility and tolerance, choosing a call to action historically associated with incivility and intolerance seems ill-advised.”

http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/u-...-2016/1.716966

[LibertyEagle]

Absolutely, he should, because Israel should always come before our own country. What are people thinking? /sarc

[nikcers]

Absolutely, he should, because Israel should always come before our own country. What are people thinking? /sarc

Trump couldn't of said it better himself!

"I'm making a major speech in front of a very important group of people,"
"I think we've had enough debates,"

"Good evening. I speak to you today as a lifelong supporter and true friend of Israel. I am a newcomer to politics but not to backing the Jewish state.In late 2001, weeks after the attacks on New York City and Washington - attacks perpetrated by Islamic fundamentalists, Mayor Giuliani visited Israel to show solidarity with terror victims. I sent him in my plane because I backed the mission 100%.
In Spring 2004, at the height of violence in the Gaza Strip, I was the Grand Marshal of the 40th Salute to Israel Parade, the largest single gathering in support of the Jewish state.
It was a very dangerous time for Israel and frankly for anyone supporting Israel - many people turned down this honor –I did not, I took the risk.
I didn't come here tonight to pander to you about Israel. That's what politicians do: all talk, no action. I came here to speak to you about where I stand on the future of American relations with our strategic ally, our unbreakable friendship, and our cultural brother, the only democracy in the Middle East, the State of Israel.
My number one priority is to dismantle the disastrous deal with Iran. I have been in business a long time. I know deal-making and let me tell you, this deal is catastrophic - for America, for Israel, and for the whole Middle East.
The problem here is fundamental. We have rewarded the world's leading state sponsor of terror with $150 billion and we received absolutely nothing in return.
I've studied this issue in greater detail than almost anybody. The biggest concern with the deal is not necessarily that Iran is going to violate it, although it already has, the bigger problem is that they can keep the terms and still get to the bomb by simply running out the clock, and, of course, they keep the billions.
The deal doesn't even require Iran to dismantle its military nuclear capability! Yes, it places limits on its military nuclear program for only a certain number of years. But when those restrictions expire, Iran will have an industrial-size military nuclear capability ready to go, and with zero provision for delay no matter how bad Iran's behavior is. When I am president, I will adopt a strategy that focuses on three things when it comes to Iran.
First, we will stand up to Iran's aggressive push to destabilize and dominate the region. Iran is a very big problem and will continue to be, but if I'm elected President, I know how to deal with trouble. Iran is a problem in Iraq, a problem in Syria, a problem in Lebanon, a problem in Yemen, and will be a very major problem for Saudi Arabia. Literally every day, Iran provides more and better weapons to their puppet states.
Hezbollah in Lebanon has received sophisticated anti-ship weapons, anti-aircraft weapons, and GPS systems on rockets. Now they're in Syria trying to establish another front against Israel from the Syrian side of the Golan Heights.
In Gaza, Iran is supporting Hamas and Islamic Jihad - and in the West Bank they are openly offering Palestinians $7,000 per terror attack and $30,000 for every Palestinian terrorist's home that's been destroyed.
Iran is financing military forces throughout the Middle East and it is absolutely indefensible that we handed them over $150 billion to facilitate even more acts of terror.
Secondly, we will totally dismantle Iran's global terror network. Iran has seeded terror groups all over the world. During the last five years, Iran has perpetrated terror attacks in 25 different countries on five continents. They've got terror cells everywhere, including in the western hemisphere very close to home. Iran is the biggest sponsor of terrorism around the world and we will work to dismantle that reach.
Third, at the very least, we must hold Iran accountable by restructuring the terms of the previous deal. Iran has already - since the deal is in place - test-fired ballistic missiles three times. Those ballistic missiles, with a range of 1,250 miles, were designed to intimidate not only Israel, which is only 600 miles away but also intended to frighten Europe, and, someday, the United States.
Do you want to hear something really shocking? As many of the great people in this room know, painted on those missiles – in both Hebrew and Farsi - were the words "Israel must be wiped off the face of the earth."
What kind of demented minds write that in Hebrew? And here's another twisted part - testing these missiles does not even violate the horrible deal that we made!
The deal is silent on test missiles but those tests DO violate UN Security Council Resolutions. The problem is, no one has done anything about it. Which brings me to my next point – the utter weakness and incompetence of the United Nations.
The United Nations is not a friend of democracy. It's not a friend to freedom. It's not a friend even to the United States of America, where as all know, it has its home. And it surely isn't a friend to Israel.
With President Obama in his final year, discussions have been swirling about an attempt to bring a security council resolution on the terms of an eventual agreement between Israel and Palestine. Let me be clear: An agreement imposed by the UN would be a total and complete disaster. The United States must oppose this resolution and use the power of our veto. Why? Because that's not how you make a deal.
Deals are made when parties come to the table and negotiate. Each side must give up something it values in exchange for something it requires. A deal that imposes conditions on Israel and the Palestinian Authority will do nothing to bring peace. It will only further delegitimize Israel and it would reward Palestinian terrorism, because every day they are stabbing Israelis – and even Americans.
Just last week, American Taylor Allen Force, a West Point grad who served in Iraq and Afghanistan, was murdered in the street by a knife-wielding Palestinian. You don't reward that behavior, you confront it!
It's not up the United Nations to impose a solution. The parties must negotiate a resolution themselves. The United States can be useful as a facilitator of negotiations, but no one should be telling Israel it must abide by some agreement made by others thousands of miles away that don't even really know what's happening.
When I'm president, believe me, I will veto any attempt by the UN to impose its will on the Jewish state. You see, I know about deal-making - that's what I do. I wrote The Art of the Deal, one of the all-time best-selling books about deals and deal making. To make a great deal, you need two willing participants.
We know Israel is willing to deal. Israel has been trying to sit down at the negotiating table, without pre-conditions, for years. You had Camp David in 2000, where Prime Minister Barak made an incredible offer – maybe even too generous. Arafat rejected it.
In 2008, Prime Minister Olmert made an equally generous offer. The Palestinian Authority rejected it. Then John Kerry tried to come up with a framework and Abbas didn't even respond, not even to the Secretary of State of the United States of America!
When I become President, the days of treating Israel like a second-class citizen will end on Day One. I will meet with Prime Minister Netanyahu immediately. I have known him for many years and we will be able to work closely together to help bring stability and peace to Israel and to the entire region.
Meanwhile, every single day, you have rampant incitement and children being taught to hate Israel and hate the Jews. When you live in a society where the firefighters are the hero's little kids want to be firefighters.
When you live in a society where athletes and movie stars are heroes, little kids want to be athletes and movie stars. In Palestinian society, the heroes are those who murder Jews - we can't let this continue. You cannot achieve peace if terrorists are treated as martyrs. Glorifying terrorists is a tremendous barrier to peace.
In Palestinian textbooks and mosques, you've got a culture of hatred that has been fermenting there for years, and if we want to achieve peace, they've got to end this indoctrination of hatred. There is no moral equivalency. Israel does not name public squares after terrorists. Israel does not pay its children to stab random Palestinians.
You see, what President Obama gets wrong about deal making is that he constantly applies pressure to our friends and rewards our enemies. That pattern, practiced by the President and his administration, including former Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, has repeated itself over and over and has done nothing but embolden those who hate America. We saw that with releasing $150 billion to Iran in the hope that they would magically join the world community - It's the same with Israel and Palestine.
President Obama thinks that applying pressure to Israel will force the issue, but it's precisely the opposite. Already, half the population of Palestine has been taken over by the Palestinian ISIS in Hamas, and the other half refuses to confront the first half, so it's a very difficult situation but when the United States stands with Israel, the chances of peace actually rise. That's what will happen when I'm president.
We will move the American embassy to the eternal capital of the Jewish people, Jerusalem - and we will send a clear signal that there is no daylight between America and our most reliable ally, the state of Israel.
The Palestinians must come to the table knowing that the bond between the United States and Israel is unbreakable. They must come to the table willing and able to stop the terror being committed on a daily basis against Israel and they must come to the table willing to accept that Israel is a Jewish State and it will forever exist as a Jewish State.
Thank you very much, its been a great honor to be with you."

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This apparently is an on-going controversy in US politics, this news from 2015:

‘America First Not Israel’: Detroit billboard urges US to restrict influence of Jewish Lobby

Published time: 27 Oct, 2015



A billboard in Detroit stating ‘America First Not Israel’ is causing controversy and accusations of anti-Semitism. The advertisement was paid for by the Deir Yassin Remembered group, which aims to make American’s more aware of the plight of Palestinians.

The billboard can be seen 8 Mile Road in the city, and was placed there by Deir Yassin Remembered, which is based in New York. Detroit has one of the largest Arab populations in the United States, however it also has a sizable number of Jewish inhabitants.

https://www.rt.com/usa/319821-billbo...ws-government/

[TheTexan]

As a Christian, I try to live by the Golden Rule. How would I like it, if I decided to move into a geography that was pre-dominantly Mooslim, and then had to live surrounded by Mooslims? I sure would appreciate it if a bunch of people put my interests above theirs to help me ward off those god-damned Mooslims.

God bless Israel. Amen.

[nikcers]

Trump couldn't of said it better himself!

TLDR-

I am a newcomer to politics but not to backing the Jewish state.

If I'm elected President, I know how to deal with trouble. Iran is a problem in Iraq, a problem in Syria, a problem in Lebanon, a problem in Yemen, and will be a very major problem for Saudi Arabia. Literally every day..

When I become President, the days of treating Israel like a second-class citizen will end on Day One. I will meet with Prime Minister Netanyahu immediately.

I have known him for many years.

You cannot achieve peace if terrorists are treated as martyrs. Glorifying terrorists is a tremendous barrier to peace.

In Palestinian textbooks and mosques, you've got a culture of hatred that has been fermenting there for years, and if we want to achieve peace, they've got to end this indoctrination of hatred.

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TLDR-

I'm confused after reading all these news, is Trump America Firster or Israel Firster?

[Danke]

I'm confused after reading all these news, is Trump America Firster or Israel Firster?

Yes!

[dannno]

I'm confused after reading all these news, is Trump America Firster or Israel Firster?

He's whatever you want him to be, bae.....

[Ronin Truth]

The Rothschilds much prefer "Israel First", as an American slogan for it's Zionist agents here.

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

America First Second. hmm.

[enhanced_deficit]

He's whatever you want him to be, bae.....

His stances are all over the place but very different from vast majority of politicians.

Trump calls out Hillary Clinton for her support for Israel’s separation wall

[angelatc]

Anyone think Trump will drop this "America First" stance/slogan after ADL protest:

Trump urged to drop 'America First' slogan due to anti-Semitic past - U.S. Election 2016

Haaretz‎ - 3 hours ago

Nah. He'll just write them a check and they will drop the protest.

[erowe1]

His stances are all over the place but very different from vast majority of politicians.

Trump calls out Hillary Clinton for her support for Israel’s separation wall

How are his stances very different from the vast majority of politicians?

And why do you share that link when saying that, since it shows an example of how his views and Hillary's are alike.

Perhaps it's because of the deceptive title, which makes it look like Trump himself doesn't support the wall in Israel, which is not what he says.

[enhanced_deficit]

How are his stances very different from the vast majority of politicians?

And why do you share that link when saying that, since it shows an example of how his views and Hillary's are alike.

Perhaps it's because of the deceptive title, which makes it look like Trump himself doesn't support the wall in Israel, which is not what he says.

Majority of politicians have not called out Hillary Clinton for her support for Israel's border wall while opposing Trump's border wall. So he sort of unique in that stance among famous politicians.

Trump most likely supports both walls, he just is clever in the art of statements that hurt his opponents.

If you are arguing he uses deception/word play etc to get his way, I'm not going to disagree. He openly calls for bluffs in negotiations like poker game which is essentially the art of deception to beat the opponents.

[nikcers]

Majority of politicians have not called out Hillary Clinton for her support for Israel's border wall while opposing Trump's border wall. So he sort of unique in that stance among famous politicians.

Trump most likely supports both walls, he just is clever in the art of statements that hurt his opponents.

If you are arguing he uses deception/word play etc to get his way, I'm not going to disagree. He openly calls for bluffs in negotiations like poker game which is essentially the art of deception to beat the opponents.

No he is arguing that Trump is Israel first, he only says America first to hide the fact that he is a Zionist shill when he attacked Ron Paul in 2011 he said he "doesn't even think in terms of Israel".

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

Ron Paul would have never run with an American first slogan.

Although Ron Paul was for reducing government and getting out of messy alliances, including the UN, he was too much a beltway "international" libertarian, and wouldn't have been for locking down a bad border, or calling - loudly - for renegotiating free trade agreements that really aren't free.

I'm not saying Ron Paul was a beltway libertarian, but he wouldn't have gone against their grain that much.

It's roughly the difference between being a paleolibertarian and the problem Murray Rothbard saw between beltway libertarians and actually appealing to most people with working solutions.

[enhanced_deficit]

Ron Paul would have never run with an American first slogan.

Although Ron Paul was for reducing government and getting out of messy alliances, including the UN, he was too much a beltway "international" libertarian, and wouldn't have been for locking down a bad border, or calling - loudly - for renegotiating free trade agreements that really aren't free.

I'm not saying Ron Paul was a beltway libertarian, but he wouldn't have gone against their grain that much.

It's roughly the difference between being a paleolibertarian and the problem Murray Rothbard saw between beltway libertarians and actually appealing to most people with working solutions.

I think you are right, RP would have not run with such a slogan even though logical premise of his non-interventionist policy had some similar grounds.


Merle Haggard’s Peace Song 'America First'

Written by Adam Dick
Wednesday April 6, 2016

Among those songs is “America First.” Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity Chairman Ron Paul included “America First” in a list of peace songs in his book Swords into Plowshares.

In an answer to the classic question of guns versus butter, Haggard says in the song, “There’s things to be done all over the world, but let’s rebuild America first.”

Making it clear where he stands on American foreign policy, Haggard goes on to sing in the 2005 song, “Let’s get out of Iraq, get back on the track, and let’s rebuild America first.” In Haggard’s music video for the song, his singing of these lyrics is followed by a photo of Presidents George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton together that helps show that war is a bipartisan US government venture, as well as a close-up of a Veterans for Peace logo communicating that people who fought in the US military are among the people who oppose wars.

Watch Haggard’s music video for “America First” here:

http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/arch...america-first/

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[AZJoe]

ADL's opposition to America First is just more racist anti-American defamatory bigotry.

Its Anti-Americanism, and a microagression and macro too!

Wish there were some sort of anti defamation group to call out this anti-Americanism bigotry.

[Ronin Truth]

Trump mulls dropping ADL.

[hells_unicorn]

I'm in favor of America dropping every member of the ADL off in Tel Aviv, how does that sound?

[juleswin]

No he is arguing that Trump is Israel first, he only says America first to hide the fact that he is a Zionist shill when he attacked Ron Paul in 2011 he said he "doesn't even think in terms of Israel".

But I mean, Bill Kristol doesn't like him. Doesn't that mean that his familial, professional and political history of being hyper pro Israeli should be completely ignored. Like the saying goes, you can teach and old stubborn, dog new tricks. So Trump should all good.

[erowe1]

Majority of politicians have not called out Hillary Clinton for her support for Israel's border wall while opposing Trump's border wall. So he sort of unique in that stance among famous politicians.

Trump most likely supports both walls, he just is clever in the art of statements that hurt his opponents.

If you are arguing he uses deception/word play etc to get his way, I'm not going to disagree. He openly calls for bluffs in negotiations like poker game which is essentially the art of deception to beat the opponents.

So all we really have here is the difference of him supporting wasting a huge amount of money on a wall that most other politicians don't want.

[ChaosControl]

Uh I am not Trump fan but America first should be a priority of any president. The ADL can shove it.

[openfire]

But I mean, Bill Kristol doesn't like him. Doesn't that mean that his familial, professional and political history of being hyper pro Israeli should be completely ignored. Like the saying goes, you can teach and old stubborn, dog new tricks. So Trump should all good.

Why do you suppose that is?

You do understand what Bill Kristol is, right? I guess not. Let me enlighten you. Bill Kristol would wipe his bum with the lives of Americans for a certain country in the M.E. And if Trump was down with that agenda, Mr. Kristol would be all for him.

The fact that he and those of his ilk (who claim to be conservative) would prefer Hillary over Trump should tell you all you need to know... But you still don't get it.

What, you think Kristol gives two shiitzs about conservative values? Freedom? Limited Government? The future of America? The constitution? WAKE THE EFF UP.

What don't you understand about the fact that Bill Kristol is an ISRAEL FIRSTER and that's THE ONLY REASON HE OPPOSES TRUMP AND THE SAME REASON HE OPPOSED RON PAUL?

[acptulsa]

Why do you suppose that is?

You do understand what Bill Kristol is, right? I guess not. Let me enlighten you. Bill Kristol would wipe his bum with the lives of Americans for a certain country in the M.E. And if Trump was down with that agenda, Mr. Kristol would be all for him.

The fact that he and those of his ilk (who claim to be conservative) would prefer Hillary over Trump should tell you all you need to know... But you still don't get it.

What, you think Kristol gives two shiitzs about conservative values? Freedom? Limited Government? The future of America? The constitution? WAKE THE EFF UP.

What don't you understand about the fact that Bill Kristol is an ISRAEL FIRSTER and that's THE ONLY REASON HE OPPOSES TRUMP AND THE SAME REASON HE OPPOSED RON PAUL?

What I don't understand about that tripe is the fact that it isn't true.

The proof that it isn't true is abundant in this thread.

If there were a scrap of evidence that Trump doesn't believe in aiding Israel, or that he does believe in freedom, limited government, and/or the Constitution you might have a point. And we wouldn't hear any more about Trump in the news than we did about Ron Paul...



...much less be unable to turn on a television, radio or computer without hearing and/or reading his name.

What part of when Billy Kristol wakes up in the morning and sees a poll indicating that 51% of the nation doesn't trust him to walk their dogs, he immediately begins trashing those he loves the most (because he's smart enough to know that's doing them a favor), is really beyond your comprehension?

[enhanced_deficit]

Unbelievable, Trump just used this slogan again in speech.

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Merkel warns against dark forces on the rise in Europe ; NYT: Scourge of Anti-Semitism Rises

Major EU upset: 'Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party set to win most UK seats in EU vote

Newsweek: Jews Should Concern Americans More Than Russian Influence, Nigel Farage Says

[devil21]

Merkel warns against dark forces on the rise in Europe ; NYT: Scourge of Anti-Semitism Rises

Major EU upset: 'Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party set to win most UK seats in EU vote

Newsweek: Jews Should Concern Americans More Than Russian Influence, Nigel Farage Says

I think I've seen this movie before. The script writers are becoming lazy with the recycled plotlines.