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a few summary points, just typing as I hear them:
- getting out of the business of nation building
- need for a coherent foreign policy based on American interests
- be prepared to let countries defend themselves if they don't pay their share
- stop wars to "spread western democracy" in countries not interested in democracy (Iraq, Libya, etc)
- take care of veterans
- focus on stability in the M.E., not radical change
- desire to live peacefully with Russia and China
- easing of tensions with Russia, end hostilities
- fix relations with China for peace and prosperity
- NATO outdated - redefine mission to deal with migration (i think he just said)
- will never send troops unless absolutely necessary
- goal is peace and prosperity, not war and destruction
- caution and restraint
- surrounding himself with people with practical ideas, not warmongers (neocons)
- use ideas to inspire positive reforms, not military intervention
- too much destruction
- American politicians too interested in defending foreign borders than their own
- first priority is taking care of Americans
- not bowing to globalism
- no agreements giving foreign powers authority over American affairs
- no American should feel that their needs come second to the needs of citizens of foreign countries
Last edited by openfire; 04-27-2016 at 11:16 AM.
Well I have to admit, the Trump people on here will be going bananas over this.
I have it on mute and the hand motioning is making me dizzy. Apparently this is his compensation for the teleprompter. It looks like he's having a partial seizure.
Wow, great job Mr. president!
Pretty damned good.
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I took notes too since Trump is distracting. It's similar openfire's
Foreign policy goals:
1) Middle East goals must be to defeat terroists and maintain stability
2) Certain Groups will always be the enemy
3) Only generous to our friends
4) Work with Russia & China for common interests
5) Summit with NATO and Asian allies
- rebalance financial committments, establish new strategies for shared challenges
6) Fight to win
7) Will only send forces with a plan for victory
8) Goal is peace and prosperiety not war and destruction.
9) Prepared to deploy financial leverage
10) War and aggression will not be my first instinct unlike other candidates
11) Work with allies to help promote western values
12) View through the lens of America's interest
13) World is most peaceful and prosperous when America is the strongest
14) Most peaceful and prosperous century
Most of that sounds great but I don't trust him. We'll see in 4 years.
Good speech.
Good speech. Basically, the neocon M.E. agenda would be DOA under Trump.
My god, he's a terrible speaker... I mean truly horrible. It's like a child reading a book report.
-Major General Smedley Butler, USMC,There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.
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Author of, War is a Racket!
- Diogenes of SinopeIt is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours.
Much much better than I expected!
-Major General Smedley Butler, USMC,There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.
Two-Time Congressional Medal of Honor Winner
Author of, War is a Racket!
- Diogenes of SinopeIt is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours.
You misunderstand.... He is terrible reading a teleprompter, but at least it's coherent and on message... He is absolutely, mercilessly, horribly incompetent when speaking off the cuff, imo. His normal speeches (sans teleprompter) are so disjointed and random that he makes a 10 year old with ADHD look like Gary Kasparov playing Deep Blue.... not that George W was much better... but it's sad that being a profound orator is sadly no longer valued among boobus sheep. They only care about "Build the wall!" and "The Establishment!"... sad times.
-Major General Smedley Butler, USMC,There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.
Two-Time Congressional Medal of Honor Winner
Author of, War is a Racket!
- Diogenes of SinopeIt is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours.
This is good news. I had concerns whether he could be trusted on FP but instead he put a knife right in the heart of the Neoconservative interventionists. No reason to do that and lose their support if he does not believe what he says.
No doubt if I tune-in to the Neocon clowns like Levin, Beck and some pundits on FNC they will play the isolationist, naive, crazy or dangerous card like they used against Ron. It is not going to work, their days are coming to an end and it will be fun to watch them just watch them flail about in desperation.
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-Major General Smedley Butler, USMC,There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.
Two-Time Congressional Medal of Honor Winner
Author of, War is a Racket!
- Diogenes of SinopeIt is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours.
Well we shall see.
Last edited by AngryCanadian; 04-27-2016 at 11:52 AM.
We shouldn't send our troops to intervene in needless wars overseas?
This guy's a genius! Why has noone thought of this before??!
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Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!
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What the $#@! are you people talking about? He's talking nuclear expansion, alliances with defacto dictators, more aggressive intervention when intervention is done, and intervention purely on behalf of "American Interests"- whatever the hell those are...? Guess what was on behalf on "American Interests" in 2003? And since when is increasing the size of the military a good thing?
Wake up, you clowns. You've drank the Trump koolaid.
-Major General Smedley Butler, USMC,There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.
Two-Time Congressional Medal of Honor Winner
Author of, War is a Racket!
- Diogenes of SinopeIt is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours.
Look at it this way--- the foreign policy component of Trumps positions alone, when compared to the foreign policy positions of the likely Hillary Clinton Democrat platform (especially after Bernie Sanders has his influence on it) as stated today are still MUCH worse, in a "pro-liberty" Ron-Paulian sense. Again I am talking foreign policy only. He is just another big military industrial complex buffoon controlled by advisers, idiotic populace via focus groups and poll numbers.
Can I please remind people what forum this is?
Last edited by Murray N Rothbard; 04-27-2016 at 11:47 AM.
“I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul
This thread and the site policy that came from it says otherwise:
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“I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul
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