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    Ted Cruz To Make "Major Announcement" At 4 PM

    Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz, and arguably the biggest loser from last night's "Acela Primary", said he will make a major announcement at 4 p.m. on Wednesday but gave no other details.

    Based on tangential evidence, however, Cruz will most likely announce that he has picked Carly Fiorina as a vice presidential candidate, even though he no longer has even a mathematical chance of winning enough delegates to be given the nomination.

    According to Reuters, speaking to reporters in Indianapolis, Cruz's comments come amid reports that the U.S. senator from Texas is vetting former business executive Carly Fiorina as a possible vice presidential pick.

    Earlier, CNN reported that Carly Fiorina and a handful of other possible vice presidents for Ted Cruz are submitting tax returns, said a source familiar with the process Tuesday, another step in the Texas senator's vetting process.

    Cruz's campaign has not ruled out naming a vice presidential candidate before he wins the GOP nomination. And Fiorina, a popular Cruz surrogate and a former presidential candidate, quickly emerged this week as someone the Cruz campaign confirmed it was vetting.

    Fiorina's team said Monday that she was being vetted and going through the "standard stuff," but a Fiorina spokesman on Tuesday did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

    Earlier on Tuesday, however, Cruz distanced himself from another possible vice president: Ohio Gov. John Kasich, with whom Cruz has struck an unusual pact in several of the remaining states on the calendar.

    "I think that is very, very premature. I respect John Kasich, he is a good and capable man, but I think at this point we've made a decision about allocation of resources," Cruz said to Indiana radio host Tony Katz, pushing back on the idea that the alliance could be a precursor to a ticket. That's an idea that has been pushed by at least one major Cruz donor.
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...ouncement-4-pm

    Is it just me, or does announcing your VP running mate the day after being mathematically eliminated smack of desperation?



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    I really hope it's because he's dropping out and endorsing his best good friend Donald Trump.
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    There is nothing to gain announcing Carly as VP at this point. Not only would it reek of desperation it would be laughable, in effect making a fool of himself.

    Announcing Kasich as a VP pick may gain him a few delegates, some noise in the news cycle, add some weight to a contested convention but not enough to make a difference. Cruz's strategy at this point is not to win but rather be disruptive and cause chaos within the party. Yet ultimately no chance of him winning a contested convention regardless. What would shock the media and be more disruptive for a contested convention is if he picked Rand or Ron as his VP pick which would be doubtful.

    He should just drop out at this point. Cruz is going to become even more of a pariah in the Senate should Trump win in November.
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    LOL - naming a VP who has gotten half-million from the Cruz superPAC and is already under investigation

    Better to just call off the deal with Kasich

    More than 66,000 Indianans had returned their ballots as of Tuesday, according to the secretary of state,
    almost all of whom had voted before the accord.

    Kasich was still telling supporters after the deal that they “ought to vote for me,”
    as pro-Cruz super PACs rain down anti-Kasich TV ads statewide.
    At least some of those spots are presumably spilling into Kasich's home state.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...indiana-222513




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    lol there is no way he could name Carly as his VP choice now

    Carly isn't even popular, her record is awful and without staged rehearsed debate answers she's useless.

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    I hope he names Donald Trump as his running mate. I hear that guy has some support among idiots. And Cruz needs all the idiots he can muster.
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    He's gonna announce that he has chosen the nation of Israel to be his running mate.
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    I'm putting my money that he's announcing Rubio as his running mate. Only thing that makes sense. he needs his delegates and support/endorsement. Rubio is still popular in many republican circles. It's a powerful coalition, if you think about it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by openfire View Post
    Is it just me, or does announcing your VP running mate the day after being mathematically eliminated smack of desperation?
    More than desperation -- also self-delusion and arrogance.

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    Carly is on a flight to Indianapolis...
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Might announce he'll, "do his own porn for $8,000" to effectively under-price (and out-strip) the competition!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Carly is on a flight to Indianapolis...
    Hope it is not for sports "fan" advice either - recall the Rose Bowl
    Carly, the second wealthiest of candidates in 2016 behind Trump and ahead of old money Democrat Lincoln Chaffee flying coach . . .

    Matt Viser, a journalist with The Boston Globe, also reported that Fiorina flew to Indiana yesterday.


    Carly Fiorina apparently flew in coach yesterday, en route to Indianapolis... https://twitter.com/BlindGazza/status/724925362627555329 …
    9:44 AM - 27 Apr 2016

    Last edited by Jan2017; 04-27-2016 at 10:20 AM.

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    It's a good move imo. Hillary is now the presumptive dem nominee, so any decisions by GOP candidates will now be seen in the context of a race against her. Choosing Fiorina as a female running mate before Trump chooses anyone pre-empts him. Kind of blocks him from choosing a woman himself or at least takes away the attention from it. And now if he picks any man as a VP- even Ben Carson (who is laughably inept anyway)- it will gain him nothing against Hillary.

    Basically, Cruz is positioning himself as the guy who can beat Hillary, while Trump has never shown any sign whatsoever of being able to do that. Cruz choosing a woman VP is one of the few ways Trump could have earned better support amongst women, where his favorability is abysmal.

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    I pray to the gods, old and new, that Trump picks Christie as his running mate. That guy is such a cartoon character it will be hours of entertainment.
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    yep...running mate. Ron Paul?

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    Sources confirmed to WMUR political director Josh McElveen and political reporter John DiStaso that Fiorina, who has been a supporter of Cruz for several weeks, will be the focus of the announcement that Cruz intends to make in Indiana Wednesday afternoon.
    http://www.wmur.com/politics/wmur-fi...-mate/39241650
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul



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    lol

    This doesn't do anything but make Cruz an even worse option for my support, however tactically maybe it's a good idea? I dunno, I don't see it. Clearly it's a choice made in a desire to increase his chances against Hillary.

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    He gets Trump off the front page as they move into more favorable contests. It may help him in CA as well, I doubt it will help a lot though.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by fcreature View Post
    lol

    This doesn't do anything but make Cruz an even worse option for my support, however tactically maybe it's a good idea? I dunno, I don't see it. Clearly it's a choice made in a desire to increase his chances against Hillary.
    It is going to make him a laughing stock. Fiorina is the last woman you pick if you going for the female votes from the left. Her record at HP will only bring Cruz down and rules out any chance of picking up independents or Democrats.

    The MSM and the late night TV is going to have a field day mocking this move. Fiorina and Cruz must be living in some sort of bubble detached from reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    It is going to make him a laughing stock. Fiorina is the last woman you pick if you going for the female votes from the left. Her record at HP will only bring Cruz down and rules out any chance of picking up independents or Democrats.

    The MSM and the late night TV is going to have a field day mocking this move. Fiorina and Cruz must be living in some sort of bubble detached from reality.
    Alas, I am inclined to agree with your analysis. Announcing Carly as VP is a huge tactical error that won't gain him much and cost him a great deal....

    And thus the Cruz campaign ended with a Cruz/Fiorina banner waving in the background...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    He gets Trump off the front page as they move into more favorable contests. It may help him in CA as well, I doubt it will help a lot though.
    for a day or so for sure. He needs CA and her and his last name may get him a little support by the dumb $#@! Californian or which there are many. His ad could go something like this....vote for me I am a Mexican and my last name proves it......plus my bitch is ugliest
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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    It is going to make him a laughing stock. Fiorina is the last woman you pick if you going for the female votes from the left. Her record at HP will only bring Cruz down and rules out any chance of picking up independents or Democrats.

    The MSM and the late night TV is going to have a field day mocking this move. Fiorina and Cruz must be living in some sort of bubble detached from reality.
    I agree . . . the headlines Cruz is gonna get from this are not what he may think they will be.

    A Cruz VP would be likely to assume the highest office with all the bipartisan legal battles v. Rafael

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    The outlets not completely on the Trump Train are already starting to bump him:







    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul



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    The Cruz people, especially Cruz himself, are pretty bad tacticians normally. They are really good at creating a stir, but not controlling the stir as it comes back to bite them.

    I'm not sure they can name anyone that would help, certainly Rubio would be the least harmful but then Trump is going to rhetorically annihilate them. "Lyin Ted and little sweaty" or some other gradeschool combination for their to be aborted ticket....

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    a $500,000 hush money "bump" that will last 5 minutes . . .
    just like McCain's great decision to go for the game changer Sarah Palin -
    an unwise display of an important decision that here is not based on the national interest for a suitable VP that could assume the office

    The unusually early announcement of a running mate appeared to be a bid by Cruz to recover from Tuesday's crushing losses to Trump,
    who swept party nominating contests in five U.S. Northeastern states.

    Cruz was looking for a boost to his increasingly difficult campaign after Tuesday's drubbing by Trump in all five states that held primary elections:
    Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware, Connecticut and Rhode Island.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKCN0XO26H

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan2017 View Post
    a $500,000 hush money "bump" that will last 5 minutes . . .
    just like McCain's great decision to go for the game changer Sarah Palin -
    an unwise display that is not based on the national interest for a suitable VP that could assume the office


    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKCN0XO26H
    No one sees the MSM attacking Ted Cruz every chance they get for hating women? I am not a fan of Ted Cruz at all, but that's like the lefts favorite talking point against Ted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post
    No one sees the MSM attacking Ted Cruz every chance they get for hating women? I am not a fan of Ted Cruz at all, but that's like the lefts favorite talking point against Ted.
    No, it is woman that hate Cruz . . . this is just a cheap ploy by Cruz that is going to be mocked - 2008 all over, surreal

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    Carly is like a plastic better spoken version of Palin with a worse track record as an executive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan2017 View Post
    No, it is woman that hate Cruz . . . this is just a cheap ploy by Cruz that is going to be mocked - 2008 all over, surreal
    Could be, but I see the liberal media always talking about how Cruz wants inside every girls V's. Carly Fiorina was the RNC muppet robot from the first place, I honestly think he didn't have a choice in the matter. I don't think that nominees get to pick the VP.

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