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Sorry, hit reply button 30 posts ago, still reading A new site vision; a new era did not mean to float off-topic. too tired to think right now.
Man, I'm right there with you about that. I see this mindset gradually and strategically being inserted as the more desirable catalyist. And I don't like it. I kind of just bite my tongue about it and don't say too much, though. I think it is sometimes more practical to remain observant in those situations rather than to contribute to it. Once that becomes the prevalent line of logic, I'll consider other avenues of outreach on a more regular basis, too. Of course, on the flipside I really am beginning to conclude that some just want to stimulate/endorse total chaos. Complete anarchy. Bloodshed even albeit from behind the coercive comfort of a keyboard and far removed from any instance of that which one may tend to endorse. And no good will come from that.
...becoming Chairman Mao to make China libertarian...that's a good way to put it. And we're sure as heck seeing that logic become the driver in all of this. Silver-tongued as it may often be presented, it is what it is.
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All well and good, but this has nothing to do with the efforts being made here. I wan't speaking about voting at all, was I? My point was that giving up on freedom was the worst response to the encroaching tyrant. You obviously feel differently. That is your prerogative. Don't like voting? Think it is futile? I agree, but that's not in any measure the entire universe of possible responses.
I would add that you erect a false dichotomy, whether intentionally or otherwise, when you implied that one either does nothing or starts shooting. There is a whole lot that ought to come before that. At times I think we have gone past that point and at others I don't. Part of the human condition, I suppose. Regardless, even if we started shooting yesterday, what would it buy us in terms of proceeding in the aftermath? Nothing. Why? Because the vast and overwhelming wad of humanity has absolutely no idea how to live beyond the parameters of tyranny, regardless of how seemingly benign it may appear. What kind of a world... hell, NATION would we put in the place of what we now have? For want of the most basic understanding of proper human relations we would erect yet another tyranny because people are simply unwilling to let go of the base assumptions that lead to tyranny every single time such that you can set your clocks by it.
"We have to have roads... we have to have schools... we have to have standing military... we have to have...", and on down the nauseating list of failure-based assumptions upon which nearly everyone hangs their justifications for tyranny. "Well, I don't like it that much, but we HAVE to do these things....", "everybody has to pay their fair share." Oh really? Who the hell says?
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There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.
It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.
Our words make us the ghosts that we are.
Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.
No, I understand your point. My point is this stuff is happening all the time. Our rights are being taken away, and you'll never get to demonstrate that if all you do is talk about it. Many activists do it right by pushing the boundaries and showing how the system has treated them unfairly. Those who choose to participate in the beauty pageant to see who the king should be, regardless of what they may be saying while they're doing it, are missing a vital opportunity to fill a need of the market. If filling that need attracts the government's attention, then all the better because now you have a chance to fight them and demonstrate their unfairness rather than simply talk about it. Not only that, but in the process, you are supposedly still doing something productive for society rather than nothing. In other words, fight them when they come after you. That way, you at least know that those who want what you have to offer will stand with you.
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Who's giving up on freedom? I'm saying live it, don't just talk about it. Fight them when they come. Don't become them to fight them.
I'm not aware of implying that at all. What I meant is that, although probably a bad idea in the vast majority of scenarios, shooting is doing more than voting. I'm not one to tell people when they've lost enough to risk it all, but the political game in general is far less meaningful than even one man's act of vengeance against the state for ruining his life when he tried to fill a demand of the market. Of course, shooting is not the only viable option in that scenario, either, but it's something to think about.I would add that you erect a false dichotomy, whether intentionally or otherwise, when you implied that one either does nothing or starts shooting. There is a whole lot that ought to come before that. At times I think we have gone past that point and at others I don't. Part of the human condition, I suppose. Regardless, even if we started shooting yesterday, what would it buy us in terms of proceeding in the aftermath? Nothing. Why? Because the vast and overwhelming wad of humanity has absolutely no idea how to live beyond the parameters of tyranny, regardless of how seemingly benign it may appear. What kind of a world... hell, NATION would we put in the place of what we now have? For want of the most basic understanding of proper human relations we would erect yet another tyranny because people are simply unwilling to let go of the base assumptions that lead to tyranny every single time such that you can set your clocks by it.
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I'm glad this forum is still around. I didn't know sane people still existed on the internet.......
Liberty is more than one battle. Even if all was accomplished, there would be a continuous war for personal freedom.
Purging posters, cutting down on pesky liberty? Am I getting close?
Im not sure yet, but I don't see myself tied to this sinking ship
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