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Thread: Was the Civil War a “civil war”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by robert68 View Post
    Up until now you’ve been respectful, and it’s been kind of refreshing compared to some others in this forum, but you just changed that.

    Based on what?







    LOL, because the facts aren’t on your side!!!!
    Say what? You said Lincoln was elected after the South Carolina secession document, but he was, in fact, elected before the document.
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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    Quote Originally Posted by robert68 View Post
    It wouldn't have even been put to a vote.



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morril...#Senate_action







    http://www.civilwar.org/education/history/secession/

    Then there's the "Corner Stone" Speech" given by Confederate Vice President Alexander Stephens.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornerstone_Speech
    Three states out of how many? Looks cherry picked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    Three states out of how many? Looks cherry picked.
    I think those were the only states issuing documents of that type. All the states issued documents declaring secession, but really did not allude to causes like these four.

    There were four states that seceded after the start of the war, citing Lincoln's actions as cause. These states were a mixed bag of Unionists, Democrats, etc. Arkansas was putting off it's vote until they declared a special session after April 12, the start of the war. Virginia also declared secession shortly after this date.

    A state like North Carolina was really caught in the middle. It would have been difficult for them to side with Unionists when Virginia seceded because they would have been geographically cut off. Lincoln also declared soldiers as treasonous in places like Kentucky, a state that tried to stay neutral. Lincoln's aggressive action forced the hand of a lot of people who were more ambivalent.

    Anyway, not to sound overly academic or something, but just pointing out that some states took action, in large part, because of an aggressive Lincoln who greedily would not let the South go and escalated with violence.
    Last edited by NorthCarolinaLiberty; 05-28-2016 at 12:21 AM.
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    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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