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    Default Who should own Montana?

    American Lands Council


    Phillips vs Fielder: You can watch both sides of the pubic lands debate in this recent news program produced by Montana Television Network.

    https://www.facebook.com/AmericanLandsCouncil/videos/1016317485114711/?permPage=1
    Any fate but submission.



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    The federal government ultimately owns Montana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUglyTruth View Post
    The federal government ultimately owns Montana.
    Who sold it to them? Was it a gift? From who? Do they have the deed?

    Did they just only steal it all fair and square from the REAL owners, like everything else it claims that it "owns" (so called)?

    "The State, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing." -- Albert Jay Nock

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    Who sold it to them? Was it a gift? From who? Do they have the deed?

    Did they just only steal it all fair and square from the REAL owners, like everything else it claims that it "owns" (so called)?

    "The State, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing." -- Albert Jay Nock
    The Fed Gov owns it through force of conquest and violence... as they said in Starship Troopers, "Violence is the Supreme Authority, from which all other authority is derived."
    There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.
    -Major General Smedley Butler, USMC,
    Two-Time Congressional Medal of Honor Winner
    Author of, War is a Racket!

    It is not that I am mad, it is only that my head is different from yours.
    - Diogenes of Sinope

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    Who sold it to them? Was it a gift? From who? Do they have the deed?
    The United States government acquired it through the Treaty of 1818 and later through the Oregon Treaty

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUglyTruth View Post
    The United States government acquired it through the Treaty of 1818 and later through the Oregon Treaty
    Right, stole it as usual. Who now owns the US Government? (Never mind, it's the Rothschilds.) <shrug>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    Right, stole it as usual.
    Stole from...?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    Who now owns the US Government? (Never mind, it's the Rothschilds.) <shrug>
    There is no owner of the US government. It has no shares or ownership structure. It is not a corporation.

    Ultimately, per the Constitution, the federal government is subservient to the States and the People.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheUglyTruth View Post
    Stole from...?


    There is no owner of the US government. It has no shares or ownership structure. It is not a corporation.

    Ultimately, per the Constitution, the federal government is subservient to the States and the People.

    The Illegal Quasi-Government in Washington D.C.

    The "Federal" Government is a Separate Nation and should be called the United States, Incorporated.


    This Awareness indicates there are two governments operating in this country:


    • the United States of America is the Republic government created by the states, for the states, created by the people, for the people
    • and there is the US government, which is a corporate government, or corporation. This federal government, should be called the United States of America, Incorporated.


    Corporations are not allowed by law to become politically charged in terms of their controls over the masses of a region.

    The Illegal Quasi-Government in Washington D.C.

    A corporation is simply an entity which makes its own rules for its own employees and for its own structural operation. The US government, which is on a ten acre parcel of property in Washington D.C. (District of Columbia), outside the United States of America is a corporation that has taken on the role of a quasi-government, but which has no legal authority to do so.

    This Awareness indicates that any action whereby this quasi-corporation known as the United States Federal Government attempts to make laws, to impose laws on the states or on the people that have not been authorized by the states of the people, operates illegally.

    This Awareness indicates that any of the states or the people who give their allegiance, and give their rights to such a quasi-government are doing so illegally. Anyone who volunteers to let such a foreign entity control their lives is volunteering their freedom away illegally, and this is where changes will soon begin to occur, and where entities will begin to recognize a breech in the relationship between the people, the states, and the quasi-government in Washington D.C.

    The Federal government, which is foreign to the United States of America, which is located in the District of Columbia, which is not part of the United States and which is in fact controlled to a great extent by the international bankers and by the laws and rules of the United Nations, whereby this Federal Washington D.C. state or country, has set itself up as a control over the United States of America as a quasi-government
    This Awareness indicates that elected officials residing outside of the United States of America in Washington D.C., are not actually employees or officials of the United States of America, or its rules. The states' rules do not apply. The states' Constitution does not apply to these entities in Washington D.C. because they are acting outside the country in this second nation known as the Federal government.

    This Awareness indicates in other words, the United States Federal government and the United States of America are basically two different countries, and the Constitution of the United States of America is not the law of the United States Federal government. Therefore, these entities cannot, while in the District of Colombia, be accused of treason. They are operating on behalf of the foreign bankers and their special interests.

    Most entities are unaware of vanishing freedoms

    This Awareness indicates essentially, these so called "freedoms" that entities have enjoyed or believe they had, are taken away without the public even realizing they are being taken. It is as though an entity is ushered into prison by a very powerful hypnotist and one who is very persuasive, who talks the entity along as he walks him towards the prison, and who even walks the entity through the gate and into the cell before the entity awakes to find he is imprisoned.

    This is the way it will be for many entities. They will be deeply imprisoned, unable to escape before they know what happened. This Awareness indicates that of course, because there are many patriots who are well aware of what is coming, they have the opportunity to inform others and others have the chance to wake up before it is too late.

    It becomes important for entities to recognize the need to risk communicating with persons of their own interest. If they are interested in the patriot movement, then it is important that they risk communicating with such entities, for you can't escape the reality by ignoring it. There are many entities who live in denial, right up to the time when they face the inevitable imprisonment, but of they recognize what is coming, if they are open to hearing what is evidenced in regards to the future events so that they do not ignore the evidence that is available through Patriot groups, then these entities stand a chance of adding their weight to the weight of others who are still dedicated to freedoms in this country and in other countries around the world.

    Some U.S. States Now Seeking Sovereignty

    This Awareness indicates, there are close to a dozen states in the US that have seriously been moving toward secession from the United States and regaining their own sovereignty. This Awareness indicates that Colorado, Nevada, Texas, Utah, Idaho, Hawaii; these are but a few of those mentioned as turning toward the pursuit of their state sovereignty. Technically, the "United States" refers to the states themselves, not the Washington D.C. government, and the Federal government, or the United States, Incorporated, refers to the corporation that is governing ten square miles known as Washington D.C. It is not part of the United States. It is a separate nation, incorporated as the United States of America, and it has self-appointed its own purpose as being that of extending rule over the separate United States. The sovereign states of the union being individually sovereign with their own constitution or charters or separate laws based on the Constitution of the United States.

    The United States of Americas, Incorporated

    This Federal government sees itself as a democracy, whereas the original states of the Union were a Republic .

    This Republic is no longer recognized by the "democracy" known as the United States of America. It should be understood that "democracy" essentially is majority rule, or what some call "mob rule," and a Republic is a system of government that is focused on the right of each individual. The rules are such to protect the rights of the individuals, not so much the mob or the majority, but of the individuals that make up the whole. This Awareness indicates that these things that most entities are not taught in their school or not taught through the news, through television or through the ordinary information sources of the country. It should be realized that the United States of America, Incorporated is dominated and controlled by 13 powerful banking families; the Rothschilds being a dominant influence, so that the laws are passed to help curb the freedoms of the states.

    Most of the laws of the Federal government are essentially just corporate rules and corporate laws on the states who have become associated with the Federal government, given there allegiance or otherwise bought into the Federal government in Washington, D.C., a corporation. The government in Washington, D.C. is not set up to represent the states, but to control the states, as though they were subordinate corporations to this greater corporation.

    Originally, the laws passed were by consent of the states, but it has reached a point now where the Federal Reserve Bank has such power and loans to the states or programs for the states can be financed from Washington DC, the states sell out and go along with the Federal programs in order to get Federal money.

    This Awareness indicates that it has been a very slow and gradual take over of the states and their sovereignty and independence, so that the independence is more of a sham. The so-called independence day is a celebration that occurs each July 4th, more out of memory than out of actual reality of the present time. There is really very little independence. In fact, there is much talk of "interdependence," meaning that the states are dependent on the Federal government, and the Federal government has some reliance on the state for its taxes collected from the people of the various states, and in this sense there is an interdependence. They each depend on each other.

    The Oversight of the Founding Fathers

    This Awareness indicates this all came about by an oversight of the Founding Fathers, wherein the Rothschild lawyers and representatives recognized that the oversight was that Washington, D.C. government for the states had never actually been a part of the United States and therefore, they took over and created a corporation of this Federal government, making it a separate nation from the United states, and from that action began to move toward a gradual take over of the various states of the union through statutes and laws which the states bought into.

    From Jackie Patru Sweet liberty.org :

    "Our Constitutional rights are under attack. While we sleep, local and state elected officials are legislating away our freedom by implementing federal legislation which does NOT apply -- Constitutionally -- to the several states. The President is acting as a king -- issuing "decrees" called Executive Orders -- which we are to believe overrides the Constitution for the United States of America, bypassing the system of checks and balances.

    Corrupt courts prosecute on false charges, ignoring the right to due process. To what may we attribute the impending death of our once great nation and the slave status of once-free Americans? Who is to blame for her state of bankruptcy and vulnerability?

    We are, by our silence. Our lack of involvement is our acquiescence."


    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/so...government.htm
    Last edited by Ronin Truth; 04-20-2016 at 10:51 AM.

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    I'm sorry Ronin, I'm not going to read your copypasta. Especially because it doesn't answer the question I asked you.






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