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    Too bad he was born on foreign soil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Too bad he was born on foreign soil.
    McAfee was born on a US military base, his parents US citizens. It was not a problem for McCain and he was born in Panama on a base as well.
    It does not matter, do you think he is going to win? If he does, it will be the greatest thing to happen to the libertarian movement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afwjam View Post
    McAfee was born on a US military base, his parents US citizens. It was not a problem for McCain and he was born in Panama on a base as well.
    It does not matter, do you think he is going to win? If he does, it will be the greatest thing to happen to the libertarian movement.
    A military base in a foreign country is not part of the U.S.

    WRT McCain, The Panama Canal Zone was a U.S. Territory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    A military base in a foreign country is not part of the U.S.

    WRT McCain, The Panama Canal Zone was a U.S. Territory.
    Ah I see, obviously the difference between an unconstitutional territory and an unconstitutional military base are clear here:
    Quote Originally Posted by Constitution ARTICLE II, SECTION 1, CLAUSE 5
    No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afwjam View Post
    Ah I see, obviously the difference between an unconstitutional territory and an unconstitutional military base are clear here:
    What is unconstitutional about territories?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    What is unconstitutional about territories?
    I guess in this case nothing, however I don't believe natural born citizen has successfully defined in court to include territories or exclude military bases. Like I said its the least of our worries given that Ted Cruz was born in Canada to non US citizens and is as far as he is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afwjam View Post
    I guess in this case nothing, however I don't believe natural born citizen has successfully defined in court to include territories or exclude military bases. Like I said its the least of our worries given that Ted Cruz was born in Canada to non US citizens and is as far as he is.

    They have.
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    Very inspirational video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Too bad he was born on foreign soil.
    Its a non-issue in the Libertarian party for obvious reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    They have.
    It has not been defined by the Supreme Court.
    I believe this article answers the question:
    http://uspolitics.about.com/od/presi...On-US-Soil.htm

    Quote Originally Posted by The Congressional Research Service concluded in 2011
    "The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term 'natural born' citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship 'by birth' or 'at birth,' either by being born 'in' the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents; or by being born in other situations meeting legal requirements for U.S. citizenship 'at birth.'"
    A federal district court in California determined that McCain would qualify as a citizen “at birth,” and thus was a “natural born” citizen because he was "born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States” to parents who were U.S. citizens at the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by afwjam View Post
    It has not been defined by the Supreme Court.
    I believe this article answers the question:
    http://uspolitics.about.com/od/presi...On-US-Soil.htm
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    Oh John I hope you make it to the general.

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    No Person except a natural born Citizen, ...
    Does that rule out C-Sections and test tube babies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    They have.
    Source?

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    Quote Originally Posted by afwjam View Post
    Source?
    Posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Too bad he was born on foreign soil.
    Yeah, sorry Danke. That will never fly in any court. This suggestion would mean that anyone giving birth "serving their country" overseas would have to forfeit the ability for their child to become President. Think of the problems with that among the politically-connected officer ranks. Born to two US citizens, while serving US interests, will always be considered a natural-born citizen.

    Whatever concerns you may have about McAfee, this is a non-issue. No one will ever bring this case against him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by afwjam View Post
    This.
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