French vegan couple whose baby died of vitamin deficiency after being fed solely on breast mil

[Chester Copperpot]

wow.. never knew how crazy some of these vegans are.. killing their kids


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...=feeds-newsxml

[farreri]

You have some obsession with vegans. What did they do to you, steal your potatoes?


Here's some crazy non-vegans who killed their infants:

Couple charged with killing baby by diluting breast milk
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...city/26670583/

Parents plead guilty, get 5 years in prison in baby's starvation death
http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburb...123-story.html

Baby Found Starved Nearly To Death By Lazy Parents
http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/ba...parents-video/

7-week-old baby dies of starvation; parents arrested
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/...sted/23633439/

Lakeland baby starves in a well-stocked home
http://www.tampabay.com/news/publics...d-home/1049449


Sometimes tragically there are irresponsible parents.

[presence]

I'm of the opinion its none of the state's business.
There was no guilty mind or mal intent.
These parents were doing what they thought was right.
Unfortunately they failed, and a child died as a result.
Failure, religious zealotry, and ignorance doesn't make it a crime.

[Chester Copperpot]

I'm of the opinion its none of the state's business.
There was no guilty mind or mal intent.
These parents were doing what they thought was right.
Unfortunately they failed, and a child died as a result.
Failure, religious zealotry, and ignorance doesn't make it a crime.

I think I would agree with that.

[Chester Copperpot]

You have some obsession with vegans. What did they do to you, steal your potatoes?


Here's some crazy non-vegans who killed their infants:

Couple charged with killing baby by diluting breast milk
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...city/26670583/

Parents plead guilty, get 5 years in prison in baby's starvation death
http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburb...123-story.html

Baby Found Starved Nearly To Death By Lazy Parents
http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/ba...parents-video/

7-week-old baby dies of starvation; parents arrested
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/...sted/23633439/

Lakeland baby starves in a well-stocked home
http://www.tampabay.com/news/publics...d-home/1049449


Sometimes tragically there are irresponsible parents.

Nah, i dont hate vegans.. but it just shows you that sometimes veganism is wrong. Just like anybody else.

[farreri]

Nah, i dont hate vegans..

Sure.

but it just shows you that sometimes veganism is wrong. Just like anybody else.

Should be sometimes people do veganism wrong. Did you see in my other thread where that one girl did the "paleo" diet wrong? She did it so wrong she lost her period.

[Chester Copperpot]

Sure.


Should be sometimes people do veganism wrong. Did you see in my other thread where that one girl did the "paleo" diet wrong? She did it so wrong she lost her period.

well if that happened to her then she needs to change her diet and eat something else.. one size does not fit all, no matter how much somebody pays you to say so

[BamaAla]

So what are you supposed to feed an 11 month old human? Is more than breast milk required?

I really don't know.

[specsaregood]

So what are you supposed to feed an 11 month old human? Is more than breast milk required?

I really don't know.

edit: yes, they should have introduced the baby to other foods by then. but probably not 100% necessary.

The problem was that the mother was so devoid of necessary nutrients as a result of her vegan diet; she was unable to pass them onto her child via her breast milk.

[BamaAla]

edit: yes, they should have introduced the baby to other foods by then. but probably not 100% necessary.

The problem was that the mother was so devoid of necessary nutrients as a result of her vegan diet; she was unable to pass them onto her child via her breast milk.

Oh! I see now. That makes sense.

[opal]

Women have been nursing well past 11 months for eons - I'm sure some of them managed healthy kids on plant based diets. If the soil were not so depleted and contaminated at the same time, malnutrition would likely not have been a problem.

[farreri]

well if that happened to her then she needs to change her diet and eat something else.. one size does not fit all

Even after spelling it out for you, you still don't get why those two girls failed on their diets. They didn't need to eat something else. They needed to eat something!!!

[farreri]

The problem was that the mother was so devoid of necessary nutrients as a result of her vegan diet; she was unable to pass them onto her child via her breast milk.

More like as a result of doing her vegan diet badly. Sounds like the mother was making same mistakes this former vegan girl made:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...ing-her-health

[Chester Copperpot]

Even after spelling it out for you, you still don't get why those two girls failed on their diets. They didn't need to eat something else. They needed to eat something!!!

eating a ton of food deficient in B12 wont help... youre delusional and dishonest

[farreri]

eating a ton of food deficient in B12 wont help

Um, I'm talking about the main reason they both failed on their different diets.

[tod evans]

edit: yes, they should have introduced the baby to other foods by then. but probably not 100% necessary.

The problem was that the mother was so devoid of necessary nutrients as a result of her vegan diet; she was unable to pass them onto her child via her breast milk.

My son had prime rib fat smeared on his lips the 2nd day out of the oven...........He smiled!

[luctor-et-emergo]

It's pretty $#@!ing easy people.

Carnivores have short intestines.
Herbivores have very long intestines.
Omnivores are somewhere in between.

Humans are omnivores.

Deducing from this, you can see humans aren't exactly evolved to be strict plant-eaters. They may be able to survive however it's pretty easy to argue that humans haven't evolved to survive on such a diet. Otherwise we'd probably be able to break down grasses like cows and other herbivores.

[farreri]

Humans are omnivores.

That lean toward herbivore, not carnivore.

Deducing from this, you can see humans aren't exactly evolved to be strict plant-eaters. They may be able to survive however it's pretty easy to argue that humans haven't evolved to survive on such a diet. Otherwise we'd probably be able to break down grasses like cows and other herbivores.

We evolved omnivore to have a better chance at surviving, but you can live long and healthy being a vegan if done right whereas you can't live very long being a strict carnivore.

[tod evans]

That lean toward herbivore, not carnivore.


We evolved omnivore to have a better chance at surviving, but you can live long and healthy being a vegan if done right whereas you can't live very long being a strict carnivore.

Why would a sane human be a strict herbivore or carnivore?

It all taste good, it all provides part of a balanced diet and our bodies are designed to consume plants and flesh......

Only a complete lunatic would limit themselves what with current availability...

[Chester Copperpot]

Um, I'm talking about the main reason they both failed on their different diets.

thats always convenient for you isnt it.. since you never come out and say what youre talking about, you just beat around the bush and talk in riddles.

makes it real easy for you to change your answer anytime you want. vegan gains is a liar..

[Chester Copperpot]

Why would a sane human be a strict herbivore or carnivore?

It all taste good, it all provides part of a balanced diet and our bodies are designed to consume plants and flesh......

Only a complete lunatic would limit themselves what with current availability...

yes, Thank you.

[farreri]

Only a complete lunatic would limit themselves what with current availability...

Are you calling all the "paleo" dieters on here complete lunatics?!

[farreri]

thats always convenient for you isnt it.. since you never come out and say what youre talking about, you just beat around the bush and talk in riddles.

I'm just showing people you haven't been following my thread where I clearly spelled out and even bolded their shared mistake.

[Chester Copperpot]

I'm just showing people you haven't been following my thread where I clearly spelled out and even bolded their shared mistake.

you lost all credibility with me quite awhile ago after you showed how you purposely lie and deceive. zero credibility,... if i were a vegan id be pissed at you giving me a bad name

[farreri]

you showed how you purposely lie and deceive.

Got a link?

[tod evans]

Are you calling all the "paleo" dieters on here complete lunatics?!

I'm calling anybody who doesn't eat a balanced diet a lunitic.

I don't know 'paleo' from a hole in my head...

Modern man had the ability to eat a well balanced diet without much trouble, not doing so is nuts.


[edit]

While I'm on a roll.........

Your body will crave foods, listen to it!

Train it while young to digest everything fit for human consumption and as you age it'll crave what's missing...

[farreri]

Your body will crave foods, listen to it!

But be careful, if your body is craving sweets, don't eat those sweetened foods that are loaded with fat. Eat whole fruits or starches.

[tod evans]

But be careful, if your body is craving sweets, don't eat those sweetened foods that are loaded with fat. Eat whole fruits or starches.

Some sweets are just fine, so are most natural fats........

Too much of anything is bad for you.