how?Originally Posted by Natural Citizen
Well no yet anyway. But they better not be fake comics.
Had a friend that went to Chile on a business venture. When he came back to the US, he looked around and said: NO.
Went back to Chile to live forever- said it was much freer than the US and the people were fantastic.
There is no spoon.
Interesting, Canada which has "socialized medicine" is ranked number 6.
I've read a little something about what Pinochet did for Chile in Greg Palast’s unsurpassed The Best democracy money can buy (2002): http://www.chemtrails911.com/books/T...0Palast%20.pdf
This is my very short summary (from another thread).
Debunking Pinochet apologists
Very informative video.
Also, I have always wondered how Hitler was able to grow his economy if he was such a leftist socialist then I watched this.
Why on Earth are you posting a video from a "Hitler was a capitalist, Mao wasn't so bad" socialist? Ye Gods, man.
NeoReactionary. American High Tory.
The counter-revolution will not be televised.
Because I think it is super interesting. Many people still believe a load of lies about Hitler and this is a lighthearted one to debate. The better question is why is a person of your political leaning afraid of me exposing the lies about Hitler?
Btw, nothing in my post suggests that Mao wasn't so bad, that part he made up out of thin air.
The idea that Hitler was a classical socialist isn't a lie that needs to be "exposed". Fascism doesn't neatly fit on the socialist left or capitalist right, hence the term "Third Way". Basic conservatives might think he's a socialist, but they're the only ones.
The idea that he was a liberal is just asburd, by any definition of the term.
Why not peruse the other videos that guy made. Namely, the one claiming Mao did more good than harm.Btw, nothing in my post suggests that Mao wasn't so bad, that part he made up out of thin air.
NeoReactionary. American High Tory.
The counter-revolution will not be televised.
I listened some of the quotes of Hitler, some of his policies and I think he put him squarely in the capitalist category and yes, he went socialist to fund his war efforts but everybody did that during WWII. The point is that I like most people have always believed that Hitler was some socialist left winger. I remember listening to Tom Woods making this argument and I believed it.
But if anything, the nuance about Hitler's economic platform was never presented to me like this democraticsocialist did with the video and I am very appreciative of that.
Yea, as you can tell, I do not believe everything the presenter says. But I will get back to you once I have watched the Mao is a good guy video.
He just happened to have a party named the national socialist party and implemented socialist policies because war. Totally not a socialist though because everyone was doing it and its impossible Churchill was a socialist. And no one who is a socialist would be mean to minorities, left and right is defined by niceness and not actual policies and Hitler was not nice. Oh and America is not a republic. Interesting vid.
The Nazis introduced a massive increase in the welfare state, banned many German private charities, nationalized some industries, increased the finances for state industries several-fold and spent tons on infrastructure spending. Like I said, there's a reason they called themselves Third Way.
"Hitler was a capitalist!" is not "nuanced". It's the same Marxist propaganda that's been spewed since the war, before then, even.But if anything, the nuance about Hitler's economic platform was never presented to me like this democraticsocialist did with the video and I am very appreciative of that.
Do.Yea, as you can tell, I do not believe everything the presenter says. But I will get back to you once I have watched the Mao is a good guy video.
NeoReactionary. American High Tory.
The counter-revolution will not be televised.
Every economy in the world is a mixed economy, there are no 100% capitalist or 100% socialist nations in the world. The point I am trying to make is that their economic system was more capitalist that socialist.
The point he was trying to make about the republic fascicle is that republics are not that special. just about every country in the world has a republic system. And yet the outcome is about the same for all of em.
This video is all about throwing the brutality of Nazism at the feet of capitalism and you're buying it hook, line and sinker. From a communist apologist no less.
Here ya go:
https://mises.org/files/vampire-econ...token=GpitWHXI
Try learning about Nazism from someone who was actually there.
NeoReactionary. American High Tory.
The counter-revolution will not be televised.
Well I just don't see how that is true. I mean for the entire length of its existence they were preparing to or already engaging in war. I mean the guy admitted they gave millions of marks to the private companies but he acted like that was capitalism because they had "private" companies that did whatever the government wanted them to.
Another thing that bothered me was how he called Kitty Werthmann, who actually grew up in Nazi occupied Austria a nutjob. And of course he would, because the guy making the video is obviously far left. Here's a video of Kitty I've seen before, I found it fascinating.
Her rendition of life there is the same that I have read from other like books the real Maria who the Sound of Music was based on wrote. The Nazi doctor actually tried to get Maria to have an abortion, that was one of the reasons she left Austria. and of course the Nazis were euthanizing handicapped people. And they were taking God out of school and indoctrinating kids to basically worship Hitler. So the idea that Hitler was some kind of pro-life right winger is bull$#@!. I don't even care about labels, but he's trying to act like Hitler represented everything he considers to be the modern right wing, from pro-life, to pro capitalism. And that's simply not true.
No I think he just called Crowder and idiot over the Republic thing. He didn't really expand on it, I guess we both got something different out of it.
What brutality are you talking about? there is no mention direct or implied brutality in any of the presentation. I just find it hard to believe that an economy who is supposed to be socialized would have the boom they had without natural resources and they would engage in privatization of major national infrastructure and utility. Privatization is the furthest thing on my mind when I think of socialist economies.
Also, I doubt I would read 368 pages of the book you sent me, is there any area in particular you suggest I focus on?
I am not quite sure what to make of Kitty W and the video you posted. At one point she was criticizing Hitler for nationalizing their healthcare system which was so good that it provided healthcare to everybody. Also, smearing Hilter is favorite past time game for most conservatives. Just come up with any atrocity and blame Hitler for it and everybody would believe it.
I would like to give her the benefit of the doubt and say that her memory at 84 is not what it is used to be. She says Hitler was very pro life unless you were non Aryan. So how does that make him pro abortion when most of the population was Aryan?
I have also been searching for the Austrian car company Hitler nationalized and I am having a very difficult time finding it. She says that Hitler nationalized the Austrian car company and yet not hit on google. What I found instead was this. A private car company nationlized by the allies because they suspected that they were NAZI collaborators.
http://hitlernews.cloudworth.com/cars-world-war-2.phpRenault heirs challenge 1945 car firm`s nationalisation after Louis Renault had been jailed for alleged collaboration with the Nazis
Heirs of the founder of the French car company Renault have demanded in court compensation for the nationalisation of the firm after World War II. The car maker was nationalised in 1945 after the death of Louis Renault, who had been jailed without trial for alleged collaboration with the Nazis. During the Nazi occupation the firm was placed under German control and used to make equipment for German forces.
Republic thing is something I have questioned even before I started listening to his videos. My questions has always been, why is it any better to democratically vote for a representative who then makes decisions for you instead of making the decisions yourself? why is having a middle man an advantage in this scenario? The didn't quite ask this question in the video but instead he showed the dozens of country with the same representative democracy that the US prides themselves in having to show how common it is around the messed up world.
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