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    If Hillary Isn't Indicted, the Rule of Law and the Republic Are Dead

    Once the Oligarchy is above the law, the Republic is already dead.

    To paraphrase Ernest Hemingway: How did you lose your Republic? Two ways, gradually and then suddenly. The Romans experienced this when their Republic was extinguished by Empire.

    The erosion of the Republic was gradual: slowly but surely, the lower classes' representation in governance was curtailed; the Oligarchy of the wealthy and powerful cemented their privileges at the expense of the many; Oligarchs rose above the laws that were supposed to apply to all, and executive power was consolidated in top administrators and the wealthy at the expense of the Senate.

    When Caesar crossed the Rubicon with his army to seize control of Rome, the Roman Republic ceased to exist. Gradually and then suddenly: this is how Republics become Empires.

    We find ourselves in a parallel moment in history: the American Republic has been hollowed into a shell that is maintained for PR purposes. Beneath the propaganda, the Establishment runs the nation for its own benefit. The people are ignored, because they are powerless in this hollow shell of democracy: their only role is to provide bodies, talent and blood for the Imperial armed forces, pay taxes if they have any money, and be content with their food stamps if they don't.

    Here's the proof:

    Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens

    Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence.

    Here are two articles in the same vein:

    America the Banana Republic

    The Quiet Coup

    The United States has reached a crossing the Rubicon moment: either Hillary Clinton is indicted for knowingly violating statutes regarding State Department security, or the rule of law and the Republic are dead. This is a binary moment: we either let Hillary evade the laws that were established to protect the security of the nation and confess there is no rule of law now for the Oligarchy, or the agencies tasked with defending the nation indict her.

    There is no middle ground. If Hillary isn't indicted, the rule of law, i.e. no one is above the law, is dead.



    If you believe Hillary that she didn't really do anything to violate the spirit or the letter of security laws, please review these statutes:

    U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual Volume 12 - Diplomatic Security
    12 FAM 531.1 Top Secret Storage
    12 FAM 531.1-1 Domestic
    (CTS-185; 01-31-2012)
    (Uniform State, USAID, OPIC, TDP)

    2 FAM 558 CRIMINAL LAWS
    (TLS-70; 10-01-2000)

    Incidents involving intentional or grossly negligent release or mishandling of classified information may be subject to criminal penalties. An illustrative list of criminal statutes establishing penalties of fine and imprisonment for the release of classified information is set forth in 12 FAM 558 Exhibit 558.

    Once the Oligarchy is above the law, the Republic is already dead. Once the people have lost the ability to influence the central state's policies and decisions, the Republic is dead. Once the elected officials can no longer impose the nation's statues on the Oligarchy (or have lost interest in doing so because they are all corrupted cronies), the Republic is dead. Once the nation's agencies of law enforcement are stayed from indicting, prosecuting and jailing members of the Oligarchy, be they super-wealthy politicos like Hillary or super-wealthy Wall Street bankers, the Republic is dead.

    The Democratic Party bosses and special interests have already selected Hillary as their shoo-in candidate for the Presidency, and these Oligarchs and special interests won't let any pesky details like laws protecting the security of the nation stand in the way of their Not So Quiet Coup.

    The nation's Deep State, which I have covered extensively, has at least grudgingly approved Hillary as the next neo-conservative (never met an Imperial entanglement or drone strike she didn't like), neocolonial (we're going to put the "little people" in their rightful place, i.e. under our management) Imperial President.

    A vote for Hillary, unindicted Oligarch, is a vote in favor of the destruction of the rule of law and the Republic. This is the Rubicon every voter must decide to cross or refuse to cross: vote for Hillary (destroy the Republic and surrender to Imperial Oligarchy) or refuse to vote for an unindicted Imperial Oligarch.
    http://www.oftwominds.com/blogmar16/...-dead3-16.html



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    Default If Hillary Isn't Indicted, the Rule of Law and the Republic Are Dead

    See? You and I agree on something after all.

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    Once the people have lost the ability to influence the central state's policies and decisions, the Republic is dead.
    So the republic is dead?

    Deep state coup?



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    Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.

    ...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
    ...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...


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    Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence.
    That is probably the most relevant sentence in the article as it pertains to this election cycle. People have had enough of bought and paid for candidates, now they are voting for anyone they believe to not be "on the take". Look at Bernie Sanders - Who would have thought that he could have done as well as he has? No offence to Bernie, but I don't think Americans deep down want a hard core socialist, but they view him as not "establishment", and apparently that alone is enough for them to support him. Well, that and free sheet. I digress.

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    GW Bush and his gov, lied, fabricated the evidence start a war and was never charged with anything, dont hold your hopes up.



    The elites are never charged with anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    GW Bush and his gov, lied, fabricated the evidence start a war and was never charged with anything, dont hold your hopes up.



    The elites are never charged with anything.
    Nope. They get away with murder. Literally. But if you don't pay your taxes to support all of the evil they do, it's off to jail for you.

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    The Judge gets me pumped, but it is true, Hillary knows enough people that she could be allowed to sacrifice a 'hero' underling.


    FJB

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    If they are still alive they must have gone into hiding, because I haven't seen any sign of them in a long time.



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    Perhaps only in the Amerikan Empire.

    "Truth is treason in the empire of lies." -- Ron Paul

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    She won't be indicted. Some aide will fall on their sword for her.

    The rule of law and the Republic have been dead. Some just haven't realized it yet.

    The US is in sharp decline. Both frontrunners in the major parties are under criminal investigation or on trial and nobody seems to care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    ...Some just haven't realized it yet...
    Jim, it's already dead! [Bones places his hand on Kirk's shoulder]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
    Make America the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave again

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    Hillary always knew she would never go to jail. Just by looking at her body language you can tell shes got no fears.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Hillary always knew she would never go to jail. Just by looking at her body language you can tell shes got no fears.
    She would be dead before having to serve time.
    If she were indicted and convicted then all of a sudden the media would be informing us how sick she is and has been over the last couple of years.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Hillary always knew she would never go to jail. Just by looking at her body language you can tell shes got no fears.
    You are such an expert on body language. What if she's trying hard to project power and convince everybody the world bends to her will? Do you do tea leaves as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Hillary always knew she would never go to jail. Just by looking at her body language you can tell shes got no fears.
    Same thing goes for the Russia probe and where Pence is situated.

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    Donald Trump is even more brazen than Hillary & Bill were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    Donald Trump is even more brazen than Hillary & Bill were.
    Go on ...

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    Yes... Even if he's impeached and convicted, unlike poor "Comrade Bill" who was hit by a 55 to 45 vote...
    Yes... Even if DJT has 70+ Senators vote him out of office, POTUS Mike Pence can pardon him, a.s.a.p!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    Yes... Even if he's impeached and convicted, unlike poor "Comrade Bill" who was hit by a 55 to 45 vote...
    Yes... Even if DJT has 70+ Senators vote him out of office, POTUS Mike Pence can pardon him, a.s.a.p!
    Reason for impeachment? Examples of crime acts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Reason for impeachment? Examples of crime acts.
    If Trump's taxes over the last five years indicate illegality, that might be one of the charges...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    If Trump's taxes over the last five years indicate illegality, that might be one of the charges...
    That's all you have? Why are you wasting everybody's time?



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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    That's all you have? Why are you wasting everybody's time?
    I have more.

    Just wait...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    I have more.

    Just wait...
    The floor is yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    The floor is yours.
    Technically, the OP is wrong, Hillary was less criminal than Bill
    all thru Whitewatergate and as to Libya, POTUS was being loyally
    served by her. Her public career is stellar but confusing. Trump's
    graft has become worse. Bob Mueller is being careful & correct.
    I await further developments. Libertarianism is small gov't, not an
    increase in gov't power. Trump has been an autocrat by impulse.

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    Besides he's ballooning out the national debt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    Technically, the OP is wrong, Hillary was less criminal than Bill
    all thru Whitewatergate and as to Libya, POTUS was being loyally
    served by her. Her public career is stellar but confusing. Trump's
    graft has become worse. Bob Mueller is being careful & correct.
    I await further developments. Libertarianism is small gov't, not an
    increase in gov't power. Trump has been an autocrat by impulse.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    Besides he's ballooning out the national debt.
    Fact. Trump spends like a drunken sailor.
    Fact. Trump did the tax cut to get a 25 million break.
    Our WAR ON TERROR is expensive. Trump is actually the
    "deep state" he decries. He has lied to the public.
    We can survive Liberal POTUSes but not idiots.

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