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    Angry Prosecutor: Fatal shooting of Oregon militia spokesman was JUSTIFIED

    Fatal shooting of Oregon militia spokesman was JUSTIFIED, prosecutor rules two months after standoff's climactic end

    By Reuters

    Published: 15:07 EST, 8 March 2016


    The fatal shooting of Robert 'LaVoy' Finicum, one of the armed protesters who took over a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon in January, was 'justified and necessary,' a county prosecutor said on Tuesday.

    Finicum was shot and killed by Oregon State Police on January 26 after he tried to flee a traffic stop on a snow-covered roadside during the armed occupation by lands rights protesters of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

    Relatives of Finicum, 54, a spokesman for the group that seized buildings at the refuge, insist he was not armed when he was killed.

    However, Deschutes County Sheriff Shane Nelson said a loaded 9mm handgun was found in the pocket of Finicum's jacket following the shooting.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...actic-end.html
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    I just watched that video again yesterday. Having a traffic stop with no place to turn off and snipers in the woods is bull$#@!. These guys were peaceful and could have been taken into custody without incident. This is to show everyone who the boss is and what happens if you think you can stand up for yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    I just watched that video again yesterday. Having a traffic stop with no place to turn off and snipers in the woods is bull$#@!. These guys were peaceful and could have been taken into custody without incident. This is to show everyone who the boss is and what happens if you think you can stand up for yourself.
    I agree they made him to be an example to send a message back to anyone who thinks they can stand up to the Empire.
    "Logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." ~ Rod Serling
    "Cops today are nothing but an armed tax collector" ~ Frank Serpico
    "To be normal, to drink Coca-Cola and eat Kentucky Fried Chicken is to be in a conspiracy against yourself."
    "People that don't want to make waves sit in stagnant waters."

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    "Logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." ~ Rod Serling
    "Cops today are nothing but an armed tax collector" ~ Frank Serpico
    "To be normal, to drink Coca-Cola and eat Kentucky Fried Chicken is to be in a conspiracy against yourself."
    "People that don't want to make waves sit in stagnant waters."

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Fatal shooting of Oregon militia spokesman was JUSTIFIED, prosecutor rules two months after standoff's climactic end

    By Reuters

    Published: 15:07 EST, 8 March 2016


    The fatal shooting of Robert 'LaVoy' Finicum, one of the armed protesters who took over a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon in January, was 'justified and necessary,' a county prosecutor said on Tuesday.

    Finicum was shot and killed by Oregon State Police on January 26 after he tried to flee a traffic stop on a snow-covered roadside during the armed occupation by lands rights protesters of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

    Relatives of Finicum, 54, a spokesman for the group that seized buildings at the refuge, insist he was not armed when he was killed.

    However, Deschutes County Sheriff Shane Nelson said a loaded 9mm handgun was found in the pocket of Finicum's jacket following the shooting.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...actic-end.html
    No surprise here, they probably told the prosecutor he would get the same treatment if he ruled otherwise.

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    However, Deschutes County Sheriff Shane Nelson said a loaded 9mm handgun was found in the pocket of Finicum's jacket following the shooting.
    If it was in his pocket, where was the (direct) threat ?

    NOT JUSTIFIED. Based on this statement.
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    In the video it shows LaVoy came out with his hands up and they shot at him. Look at the back window as he was getting out.
    "Logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." ~ Rod Serling
    "Cops today are nothing but an armed tax collector" ~ Frank Serpico
    "To be normal, to drink Coca-Cola and eat Kentucky Fried Chicken is to be in a conspiracy against yourself."
    "People that don't want to make waves sit in stagnant waters."

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    In the video it shows LaVoy came out with his hands up and they shot at him. Look at the back window as he was getting out.
    Sorry I have not yet seen the video. I just based myself on what I read the authorities said. Which I think says enough.

    People have definitely been too desensitized to realize that someone who had family, friends, a life, feelings.. Just had his life ended. No matter what the reason really. It's sad.

    Where I live guns definitely aren't appreciated and cops are the only people carrying them. Yet, when someone is carrying a firearm and not trying to use it, they are arrested, not shot and killed. I'm definitely willing to say it's a problem with the police in the US. Stuff like that doesn't happen here nearly as frequently. I won't say bad things don't happen here but very rarely and then there's a lot of outrage.
    Last edited by luctor-et-emergo; 03-08-2016 at 08:16 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    In the video it shows LaVoy came out with his hands up and they shot at him. Look at the back window as he was getting out.
    Yeah, an FBI guy did that - shot through the roof and it went out through a window. He shot at Finicum twice while he was getting out of the truck with his hands raised. He and 4 other FBI guys are now under investigation for lying about it and trying to cover it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post

    Where I live guns definitely aren't appreciated and cops are the only people carrying them. Yet, when someone is carrying a firearm and not trying to use it, they are arrested, not shot and killed. I'm definitely willing to say it's a problem with the police in the US. Stuff like that doesn't happen here nearly as frequently. I won't say bad things don't happen here but very rarely and then there's a lot of outrage.
    I have lived around guns, and people with guns.
    and it has been peaceful.

    I have partied with armed folks in social venues,,and it was peaceful..

    Police have always been violent,, and they are getting worse.
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    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    So many officers, why didn't they just tackle him?

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    Of course it was justified.

    It's always justified, even when it isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    I just watched that video again yesterday. Having a traffic stop with no place to turn off and snipers in the woods is bull$#@!. These guys were peaceful and could have been taken into custody without incident. This is to show everyone who the boss is and what happens if you think you can stand up for yourself.
    Except for the part about the huge standoff that LeVoy eventually sped away from, and tried to escape then ran into a roadblock.

    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    So many officers, why didn't they just tackle him?
    He reached for his gun and charged the officers, its on video.
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    Thank goodness we have Trump on the ballet, he can help us with these problems..

    "You have said the police are the most mistreated people in America....."

    "The Police are absolutely mistreated.....They are afraid for their pension, their job, they don't know what to do....We have to GIVE GREAT RESPECT, far greater than we are right now to our really fantastic police."





    Trump won't let this happen on his watch I tell ya, he will make sure the most mistreated people in America command far greater respect to avoid these kinds of problems.

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    Another video has been released:


    Police Release New Footage of LaVoy Finicum Shooting



    Ryan Bundy Cell Phone Video Footage from Inside LaVoy Finicum's Truck


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    Expecting the police to police the police doesn't work.

    Justice will not be found in their courts.

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    Goons gonna goon... They will not stop.
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    And the FBI agents shots? Beuller? Beuller?
    Theye have refused their Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    Theye have erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

    Theye kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies

    Theye have combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution,

    For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

    For cutting off our Trade with parts of the world:

    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

    Theye plundered and destroyed the lives of our people.

    Theye are at this time transporting Armies of Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy of a civilized nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Another video has been released:


    Police Release New Footage of LaVoy Finicum Shooting



    Ryan Bundy Cell Phone Video Footage from Inside LaVoy Finicum's Truck

    Last 5 seconds of the video, apparently if you ask nicely for them not to shoot you, they won't.

    If only LaVoy was as well mannered. (sigh)
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