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    To Stop Trump, Rubio Must Offer Cruz VP Or Supreme Court Spot

    To Stop Trump, Rubio Must Offer Cruz VP Or Supreme Court Spot
    By Ben Shapiro - February 20, 2016

    The results are in: Donald Trump won a clear victory in South Carolina on Saturday, with Senators Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Marco Rubio (R-FL) battling it out for second place.

    Trump’s victory in the South Carolina primary makes one fact eminently clear: as I wrote on Friday, either Cruz or Rubio will have to get out for Trump not to be the Republican 2016 presidential nominee.
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    Unless Cruz recognizes that while he may have strength down south, it isn’t enough to overcome the Trump wave, and he won’t have enough delegates to win the nomination in a fractured field – he’s going to run out of steam just before the winner-take-all primaries begin.
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    Here’s what needs to happen: Rubio needs to call Cruz and offer him either the vice presidential slot or a nomination on the Supreme Court – the actual best place for Cruz – in return for Cruz throwing all of his support to Rubio. That would put Trump behind the eight-ball in a serious way. Cruz would likely hold out for the vice presidential nomination, given how many enemies he has in the Senate; he knows he can’t count on them to confirm him even if nominated.
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    That could be the only way to stop Trump at this point, but I think Cruz supporters would meltdown if he dropped out and endorsed Rubio.

    I actually hope that happens. It would reveal what a snake he is.
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    If Cruz keeps self-destructing, Rubio won't have to do much of anything.

    On the other hand, some people think Trump's presence in the campaign is very helpful. He is so outrageous he emboldens the other candidates to actually express a position.

    I don't think Rubio owns his positions enough to be able to go one-on-one with Trump.
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    I'd rather see both cruz and the rube drop out, and Rand resume his campaign. That would be the best-case ideal solution to stopping trump. I'm surprised that this thread isn't full of trumpettes yet, all claiming that he's unstoppable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by invisible View Post
    I'd rather see both cruz and the rube drop out, and Rand resume his campaign. That would be the best-case ideal solution to stopping trump. I'm surprised that this thread isn't full of trumpettes yet, all claiming that he's unstoppable.
    I'm not a trumpette myself, but at this juncture I think that he is pretty much unstoppable, both in getting the nomination and winning the presidency. Barring Trump keeling over dead from some unforeseen medical issue, this is all but over. Even if Cruz did accept an offer from Rubio in exchange for an endorsement, a solid chunk of Cruz's people would either stay home or shift to Trump.

    Rand getting back into the race is not happening, the greater "Liberty" block is too busy "Feeling The Bern" to make it a successful venture. What surprises me is that there are people on this forum stupid enough to think that backing Sanders isn't a complete abandonment of their professed principles, domestically or otherwise.

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    I don't think Kasich can go one-on-one with Trump either. He's not running on positions as much as he's running on his record. A record can be great, but after a while it sounds like, "I was there, too."
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    But would you really rather have Rubio than Trump?

    I think i'd take my chances with the Party imploding under Trump than being re-united under Rubio (cuban obama)

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    Last time I checked it was illegal to offer anything of substance, especially an appointment or job placement, in exchange for support in an election.
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    Trump stopped and Cruz on scotus would be good I suppose, but is he really qualified? He's never even been a judge. And I really would prefer Cruz as potus not Rubio. But either are better than Trump or Clinton. The remaining choices in this race suck.

    I sort of think if this keeps up all the way to the convention as a 3 way race, Trump won't be the nominee. Trump's negatives are too high, I think he hit his ceiling already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Last time I checked it was illegal to offer anything of substance, especially an appointment or job placement, in exchange for support in an election.
    Do you think it doesn't happen?
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    Was gonna say the same thing as Collins. This won't happen... Definitely illegal
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    like as if TED CRUZ is too high and mighty to be bribed by a slot in Marco Rubio's CABINET?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Trump stopped and Cruz on scotus would be good I suppose, but is he really qualified?
    technically there are no qualifications

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    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    technically there are no qualifications
    Cruz is a lawyer, but has never been a judge before. Has any supreme court justice ever been nominated without having prior experience as a federal judge? I'm pretty sure all current ones were federal judges prior to their nomination.

    Anyway it's a ridiculous discussion because there's not a chance in hell it would happen, or even be something Cruz wants.
    Waiting for the day the classical liberals drive the hateful alt-right out of the republican party, and the libertarians can rise again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    like as if TED CRUZ is too high and mighty to be bribed by a slot in Marco Rubio's CABINET?
    give TED "RUST" a few weeks, let him lower his expectations. do tell him MITT is to be the VEEP, then hit him with the word cabinet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    That could be the only way to stop Trump at this point, but I think Cruz supporters would meltdown if he dropped out and endorsed Rubio.

    I actually hope that happens. It would reveal what a snake he is.
    Yes, this can be their campaign slogan.



    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Last time I checked it was illegal to offer anything of substance, especially an appointment or job placement, in exchange for support in an election.
    Sorry, does not apply to Rubio/Cruz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertas Aut Mortis View Post
    But would you really rather have Rubio than Trump?
    I know I'll take flak for this, but yes. Trump is the worst authoritarian out there. Rubio also doesn't have a cult-like following. With Rubio we get more of the same but with Trump things could very well get worse.
    Stop believing stupid things

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    No way Cruz gets through the senate for Supreme Court spot. On top of that there's nothing he can offer Rubio that would make even a shred of difference.

    Trump is going to be the nominee. Face the facts folks. It's trump vs hildabeast. Take your pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbauer View Post
    It's trump vs hildabeast. Take your pick.
    hummmmmmmmmmmmmmm gotta think this over...

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    VP not possible, as both are Cuban. SCOTUS is likely.

    Kasich will be VP, regardless who the nominee is

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    Quote Originally Posted by cindy25 View Post
    VP not possible,
    as both are Cuban.

    Important point. Gov.Kasich can be dangled the SEC of the INTERIOR position.
    This makes it possible for the able Canadian Cuban-American to pick and choose
    a cabinet position plum as MITT becomes our ever lovin' VEEP without spending
    40 million dollars to get 250 delegates like he did in 2008. Dirt cheap it is 4 him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    That could be the only way to stop Trump at this point, but I think Cruz supporters would meltdown if he dropped out and endorsed Rubio.

    I actually hope that happens. It would reveal what a snake he is.
    So if that plan works out, who are you pulling for, to get the GOP nomination?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brandon View Post
    Cruz is a lawyer, but has never been a judge before. Has any supreme court justice ever been nominated without having prior experience as a federal judge? I'm pretty sure all current ones were federal judges prior to their nomination.

    Anyway it's a ridiculous discussion because there's not a chance in hell it would happen, or even be something Cruz wants.
    You don't have to have experience as a Judge. Joe Biden, Loretta Lynch, all names being floated around. Actually Obama was hoping for the appointment. Even Michelle could be nominated.

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    If Cruz dropped out most of voters would probably go to Trump before Rubio



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    I'll really have no preference if it comes down to a race between Rubio and Trump. They both seem equally bad to me.

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    I guess I'm just missing the stopping Trump mechanism at work there.

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    There is no stopping Trump, shy of an actual assassination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    hummmmmmmmmmmmmmm gotta think this over...

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    Rubio/Cruz 2016
    Together, we're almost as evil as Hillary!
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