The Official Alt Right Thread

[Tywysog Cymru]

The GOPe is useless, what have they done to even slow the growth of government let alone stop/reverse it?

Yes they are bad because they vote for cultural marxism, higher taxes, etc.

As if Donald Trump wouldn't do the same.

Not even that, our countrymen, not even all whites. Why is that a bad thing? Why can we not exclude people who have right or claim to this nation?

No, the alt-right just excludes non-whites. Irish and German immigrants are okay to them.

Turning your nation into a 3rd world slum so long as GDP increases 1th of a percentage point is treason, if "Conservatives" think fighting wars for other nations, allowing the to wash away that which was built at staggering cost of lives, time, effort and passion, and cowering to domestic enemies is a good then they I hope the ship of "conservatism" sinks with all hands abroad.

But the alt-right attacks the GOPe for not being conservative and at the same time says that conservatism is useless.

Yeah it is. When the opposition can stack the deck with voters to insure they win every time you have no choice but to end the supply of enemy voters.

I have no idea why you can not understand that if you do not shut off this pipe line you will be out voted, the demographics will shift as to the point that you can never win any election ever again.

People said the same about the Irish.

You want to know that insult cuts so deep? Because its true.

It makes the person saying "cuck" look like they've lost the argument and have resorted to name-calling.

When principles insure you loss elections, power, wealth, Liberty and demises the future of your children then they are flawed and immoral

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The alt-right hates principles, thank you for admitting it.

Self preservation is the highest and first since of morality, anything that interferes with it is immoral.

The alt-right is, at its roots, a selfish movement. Everything centers around self and one's own interests, even at the detriment to the liberty of other people.

What have they conserved? What have they achieved?

Some good things on the local level. Conservative states like Texas are better places to live than New York, for instance.

Self destructive capitalism like "free trade" and importing hordes of "cheap" labor is harmful and not really capitalistic as they are able to exteralize their burdens/cost on to to others.

Turning your nation into a 3rd world slum just for a few bucks is short sighted and beyond stupid.

So you support regulated Capitalism?

People who support the idea of bringing in millions of people who will out vote you and vote for the antitheses of what you believe and want is beyond insane and should be mocked and attacked into submission, closed border, sane Libertarianism is same what a compatible system and is in fact where most of the alt right came from after they understood the moronic idea of open border.

I don't support illegal immigration. I just want to cut government benefits so I'm not paying for them instead of building a wall.

We do and we understand that adding millions of people every year drives up the cost of living, driving wages down and well as the myth of "free trade" has down nothing but enrich a rootless, International clique.

If you cared about economics you wouldn't support Trump.

Yeah, its not like we care about restoring the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th, 9th, and 10th Amendments, right?

I've never heard alt-rightists talk about any of those issues.

Its not like we care about things like restoring control over education, right?

Only so you can re-segregate schools.

Immigration is the issue that will decide all others, import a bunch of leftist voter and what do you thinkw will happen to the poltical landscape? Which way do you think they will vote?

But hey I guess you just love the idea of being out voted by ringers for the left.

Why didn't minorities vote for Bernie Sanders? Why was his base of support overwhelmingly white and not made up of people who just got their citizenship?

A vote for anyone else is a vote for Clinton.

Did you vote for Romney or McCain?

Christ never said or support people opening their nation to be replaced by others, giving away the inheritance of your kids to strangers or an other

No, but I'm not doing that.

Jesus never once showed hatred for foreigners. He broke down ethnic barriers and made it possible for people of all nations and races to be saved. He opposed the anti-Gentile, anti-Samaritan bigots of His day.

Its cheaper then wasting hundreds of billions every year on welfare, healthcare, education, jailing on illegals and we prevent the demographic replacement of America by 3rd world peoples.

You do not want a wall because it will shatter the lies you have become invested in.

Tunnels.

So to prove you are so not a racist you adopt a children that is a different skin color because they are non white. Do you not see the naked hypocrisy?

It's not to prove that they aren't racist. It's because people want to help children living in horrid conditions and give them a chance at a decent childhood.

Alt-rightists get triggered whenever they see a white couple walking with a non-white child. It fills them with rage. Same goes whenever they see an interracial couple.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Truth, even laced with venom and insensitivity....... How do you get Communists and their ignorantly led hordes from usurping freedoms and property at an astounding rate? Strongly worded letters? Compliments? Chocolates and Flowers? The caller couldn't offer a constructive answer.

Many people aren't even aware that they are locked in life and death struggle, where one side is adamant about wiping out the other side and indoctrinating their brethren at the barrel of a gun.

I love Cantwell..

[RestorationOfLiberty]

As if Donald Trump wouldn't do the same.

So you can see the future? What are the winning powerball numbers?

No, the alt-right just excludes non-whites. Irish and German immigrants are okay to them.

No, we allow in Michelle Malkin/etc

We also do not like or will let in leftist whites as well.

But the alt-right attacks the GOPe for not being conservative and at the same time says that conservatism is useless.

1. Because they are not.

2. It is useless if they are not willing to advance it, more it less its a flaw on their end.

People said the same about the Irish.

Were they wrong?

We did not have a welfare state then and that wave of immigration ended, but feel free to compare things that are not alike.

It makes the person saying "cuck" look like they've lost the argument and have resorted to name-calling.

Its not name calling if it is true anymore then calling a liar a lair or a traitor and traitor.
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The alt-right hates principles, thank you for admitting it.

No, we hate false principles and destructive benefits.

The alt-right is, at its roots, a selfish movement. Everything centers around self and one's own interests, even at the detriment to the liberty of other people.

Yes it does center around our interests, why? Because no one else will care about, protect, defend, or advance our interests like we can.

Why is that bad thing?

We see pathological atrium as the threat that it is.

I thought LIBs thought self interest was the greatest good?

If the freedom of those who work to harm our freedom is so in fact harmed, so be it. We are not putting the well being of our enemies before our own, that is how we got here.

Moral superiority is one the greatest lies ever told.

Some good things on the local level. Conservative states like Texas are better places to live than New York, for instance.

Without question it is, why is that? More control over those you elect, fewer people casting votes so you have a higher chance of not being out voted by low/no info voters.

If Texas and the nation does nothing to stop the flood of immigration it will turn into a one party state like CA/NY.

So you support reÿgulated Capitalism?

Define the term "regulated capitalism". Its very nebulous.

I don't support illegal immigration. I just want to cut government benefits so I'm not paying for them instead of building a wall.

Well you have to send the back as to avoid the issues that will cause. Activist judges will rule "they have a right to welfare because of the 14th Amendment" as what happened with Prop 187.

More over a Wall is always on duty, it never slackens when a leftist is in office.

If you cared about economics you wouldn't support Trump.

I do care about economics, that is why I support him.

You can not add millions of people to the nation every year and expect wages to grow and the cost of living to fall.

"Free trade" is total crap, it works for some and yeah for them but I am done putting others before myself and my countrymen.

I've never heard alt-rightists talk about any of those issues.

Have you ever talked to members of the alt right? Went on forums like my posting career, etc? If not ask away.

We care about Freedom of speech as "hate speech" and "PC" have been used to silence the truth.

We care about restoring Freedom of Association it has been violated and resulted in forced inclusion under the threat of force. It has atomized our community, eroded our cultural and political strength and institutions.

We value the right to keep and bare arms. Armed free men is the reason why America even exists to begin with. Its also a means to secure Liberty and its blessings, we also value self defense. We have seen what happens when free people are disarmed and live in a nation with hordes of people who hate them and blame them for the failures of a socialist state. From the Russian people to the Whites of South Africa.

We value privacy rights as the state or "activists" should not be able to snoop around our lives as it does nothing to make us safer.

We care about do process, who with a brain does not?

We also value protection against cruel and unusual punishments, and the 9th and 10th Amendments that should handcuff the power of the Federal government but sadly have been handcuffed by the "Supreme Court".

Only so you can re-segregate schools.

No its to insure kids are not feed lies and made into marxist voters.

But since we are here, lets play this word games.

If race does not matter why should the racial make up of a school matter?

So long as kids are learning, why should the make up of their school matter?

Would you want your kids to get a great education even if it means they are in a classroom where they are around only the same race as they are?

If their is no difference between groups, why do you care?

Why didn't minorities vote for Bernie Sanders? Why was his base of support overwhelmingly white and not made up of people who just got their citizenship?

Lack of connection, he did not pander to them like Clinton can. More over Clinton has more name and face identification.

This also does not take into consideration the fraud that is happening.

I will say it was very funny and fitting to see the Sanders supporters get denied their choice/political views due to hordes of non whites. How is that diversity working out for them?

Did you vote for Romney or McCain?

I was 18 and 22. Young rhythms with dumb for a reason. I did not vote for them, I only voted against Obama.

No, but I'm not doing that.

Jesus never once showed hatred for foreigners. He broke down ethnic barriers and made it possible for people of all nations and races to be saved. He opposed the anti-Gentile, anti-Samaritan bigots of His day.

Saved in the eyes of God, he never said break down the barriers of your nations, allow in foreigners to the point they displace you, disarm yourselfs and be pacifists.

http://cis.org/ImmigrationBible

Tunnels.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/netanya...nel-detection/

Excuses.

You act like this is the first wall ever built and we do not have any way to combat challenges..

Are you saying that a people who split the atom, broke the sound barrier, landed on the moon and created the Internet can not build a wall? If so just say it.

It's not to prove that they aren't racist. It's because people want to help children living in horrid conditions and give them a chance at a decent childhood.

So why not adopt a child from Eastern Europe? They live in horrid conditions. Its nothing more the virtue signaling.

Alt-rightists get triggered whenever they see a white couple walking with a non-white child. It fills them with rage. Same goes whenever they see an interracial couple.

No, we have bigger issues to worry about.

[TheCount]

Yes it does center around our interests, why? Because no one else will care about, protect, defend, or advance our interests like we can.

Permanently expanding the power of government in order to save yourselves from a mythological boogieman is not in your interest.

Define the term "regulated capitalism". Its very nebulous.

Aaaand there's the dodge. Of course you have to support it, because it's one of the powers that government would need in order to implement the society that you want.

You can not add millions of people to the nation every year and expect wages to grow and the cost of living to fall.

Economies are not zero-sum.

"Free trade" is total crap, it works for some and yeah for them but I am done putting others before myself and my countrymen.

Here's the real answer to the regulated economy question above.

So why not adopt a child from Eastern Europe? They live in horrid conditions. Its nothing more the virtue signaling.

Why not adopt an American child? Is it because the majority of children awaiting adoption in the US are not white?

Assuming that a transracial adoption always means that the child is coming from another country is a hilarious example of the logical biases that exist in the alt-right movement.

No, we have bigger issues to worry about.

No, you really don't. The recent growth of the alt-right movement, coinciding with an exponential increase in the use of the word "cuck" in alt-right everything, identifies which groups are joining the alt-right. Namely, fedora-hatted gentlesirs who believe that it's someone else's fault that they can't get a girlfriend and decided that it's nonwhites' fault, because them darkies are stealin' our white wimminsfolk.

Interracial couples are absolutely triggering for the majority of the alt-right.

[Tywysog Cymru]

So you can see the future? What are the winning powerball numbers?

I use the past as an indicator of the future. Trump has consistently supported policies that are antithetical to liberty. So I have every reason to expect he'll be a terrible President.

No, we allow in Michelle Malkin/etc

Why?

We also do not like or will let in leftist whites as well.

Do you give them an ideological purity test?

1. Because they are not.

2. It is useless if they are not willing to advance it, more it less its a flaw on their end.

So, conservatism is useless, but the GOPe is bad because they haven't advanced conservatism?

Were they wrong?

I'd say so. Irish immigrants and their descendants have contributed greatly to America.

We did not have a welfare state then and that wave of immigration ended, but feel free to compare things that are not alike.

If there was no welfare state, would you still be against Mexicans coming in?

Its not name calling if it is true anymore then calling a liar a lair or a traitor and traitor.

It's not true because you've made up a new definition of a word that has had the same meaning for centuries.

No, we hate false principles and destructive benefits.

Like judging people by their character, the alt-right hates that.

Yes it does center around our interests, why? Because no one else will care about, protect, defend, or advance our interests like we can.

"Our."

Why is that bad thing?

We see pathological atrium as the threat that it is.

I thought LIBs thought self interest was the greatest good?

Nope, that's Objectivists.

If the freedom of those who work to harm our freedom is so in fact harmed, so be it. We are not putting the well being of our enemies before our own, that is how we got here.

Moral superiority is one the greatest lies ever told.

So are you a moral relativist then?

Without question it is, why is that? More control over those you elect, fewer people casting votes so you have a higher chance of not being out voted by low/no info voters.

If Texas and the nation does nothing to stop the flood of immigration it will turn into a one party state like CA/NY.

Texas Hispanics are more right-wing than Hispanics in California.

Define the term "regulated capitalism". Its very nebulous.

A system that is mostly Capitalistic, but the government actively intervenes in the economy. Not quite full socialism but not too far away from it.

Well you have to send the back as to avoid the issues that will cause. Activist judges will rule "they have a right to welfare because of the 14th Amendment" as what happened with Prop 187.

More over a Wall is always on duty, it never slackens when a leftist is in office.

How do you expect to deport over 10 million people?

I do care about economics, that is why I support him.

You can not add millions of people to the nation every year and expect wages to grow and the cost of living to fall.

"Free trade" is total crap, it works for some and yeah for them but I am done putting others before myself and my countrymen.

You do realize that Donald Trump is the furthest left Republican candidate on economics, right?

Have you ever talked to members of the alt right? Went on forums like my posting career, etc? If not ask away.

I've come across many of them on this forum, Twitter, YouTube, and on comments sections.

We care about Freedom of speech as "hate speech" and "PC" have been used to silence the truth.

Everyone supports freedom of speech for themselves.

We care about restoring Freedom of Association it has been violated and resulted in forced inclusion under the threat of force. It has atomized our community, eroded our cultural and political strength and institutions.

I'm not sure exactly what you are talking about here.

We value the right to keep and bare arms. Armed free men is the reason why America even exists to begin with. Its also a means to secure Liberty and its blessings, we also value self defense. We have seen what happens when free people are disarmed and live in a nation with hordes of people who hate them and blame them for the failures of a socialist state. From the Russian people to the Whites of South Africa.

America is not like South Africa. We got rid of our racist laws fifty years ago. Most people get along just fine with people of other races.

We value privacy rights as the state or "activists" should not be able to snoop around our lives as it does nothing to make us safer.

Of course you support it for yourselves.

We care about do process, who with a brain does not?

I don't care about do process, I care about due process.

We also value protection against cruel and unusual punishments, and the 9th and 10th Amendments that should handcuff the power of the Federal government but sadly have been handcuffed by the "Supreme Court".

If the alt-right ever came into power would they not trample over state's rights to enforce segregation?

No its to insure kids are not feed lies and made into marxist voters.

But since we are here, lets play this word games.

If race does not matter why should the racial make up of a school matter?

So long as kids are learning, why should the make up of their school matter?

Would you want your kids to get a great education even if it means they are in a classroom where they are around only the same race as they are?

If their is no difference between groups, why do you care?

I don't care about a school's racial makeup, but people in the alt-right do.

Lack of connection, he did not pander to them like Clinton can. More over Clinton has more name and face identification.

This also does not take into consideration the fraud that is happening.

I will say it was very funny and fitting to see the Sanders supporters get denied their choice/political views due to hordes of non whites. How is that diversity working out for them?

If blacks and Hispanics are genetically programmed to love socialism wouldn't Bernie Sanders be the perfect fit for them?

Saved in the eyes of God, he never said break down the barriers of your nations, allow in foreigners to the point they displace you, disarm yourselfs and be pacifists.

http://cis.org/ImmigrationBible

I never said that either.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/netanya...nel-detection/

Excuses.

You act like this is the first wall ever built and we do not have any way to combat challenges..

Are you saying that a people who split the atom, broke the sound barrier, landed on the moon and created the Internet can not build a wall? If so just say it.

Oh, it's possible, but it would be extremely expensive and people could just use tunnels and boats.

The Israel comparison doesn't work. Israel doesn't have thousands of miles of borders.

So why not adopt a child from Eastern Europe? They live in horrid conditions. Its nothing more the virtue signaling.

I think Russia bans Americans from adopting their children.

No, we have bigger issues to worry about.

From what I've seen, alt-rightists are obsessed with those two issues. Not as much as they are with immigration, but they clearly care deeply about it.

[TheCount]

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Are you upset because I made fun of your fedora?

[RestorationOfLiberty]

I use the past as an indicator of the future. Trump has consistently supported policies that are antithetical to liberty. So I have every reason to expect he'll be a terrible President.

And Clinton would be any better?

Also limiting immigration is in no way harmful to anyone`s Liberty if that is your point.

Why

Because they advance our cause/goals and they value and want to live in America, not deform it into a slum nation.

Dinesh D'Souza is another, he does not come here, bad mouth the nation, and demand we become India.

Do you give them an ideological purity test?

A few basic questions while hooked up to a lie detector, answer truthfully and if they pass, their applications are processed, failure will result in a 10 year denial.

Some exceptions might apply.

We see no reason to allow in people who support Marxism, globalism, gun control, etc into the nation.

Their is no benefit to bringing in subversives.

So, conservatism is useless, but the GOPe is bad because they haven't advanced conservatism?

Its only useless because they will not wield power to advance it, that is one major theory on the alt right. Their are many others.

I'd say so. Irish immigrants and their descendants have contributed greatly to America.

So they had no valid point about crime, disease, wages, cost of living, political representation? Great to see you are blind to history.

If there was no welfare state, would you still be against Mexicans coming in?

Yes, they would still drive up the cost of living and they would still skew elections.

More over they will vote to recreate the welfare state as such political ideas are hardware into their culture.

I would have the same opposition to it if it was British or Germans who were coming here and changing the nation but they are not, are they?

It's not true because you've made up a new definition of a word that has had the same meaning for centuries.

How so?

Like judging people by their character, the alt-right hates that.

We do just that, we also judge people by their actions and political views. Like Paul Ryan, we hate him because he always craves to the left when he could just deny them them their course of actions that will lead to infringements on our rights, or deny them bring in rapeugees. Such betrayal of his constituents for people who actively hate him and them is more then enough of a reason to unseat him.

"Our"

Yeah, and? What is wrong? Can not make a point against self interests?

Nope, that's Objectivists.

So do you hate people putting their well being before others who are indifferent/hateful of them?

So are you a moral relativist then?

No, how did you deduce that?

I believe that my morals are better then those of my enemy and I will not obey moral rules or political ideals that my enemy forces on me to insure my destruction.

I accept that any moralistic system that hinders its survival or actively dooms its followers is immoral and should be throw into the trash were it belongs.

Texas Hispanics are more right-wing than Hispanics in California.

Not a majority of them, and not if the current flood is not halted. Have you seen Brownsville, el paso? Entire areas along the border are nothing more then Mexico with better infrastructure, same crime, same, corruption, same political system, and the same bleak future.

A system that is mostly Capitalistic, but the government actively intervenes in the economy. Not quite full socialism but not too far away from it.

Do basic regulations count? Such as protection from fraud, theft, trademark, etc?

How do you expect to deport over 10 million people?

strategic deportation
1. Deport "activist" like Gaby Pacheco and Jose Antonio Vargas and broadcast it. Let people know we do not care about more. If they "activists" get arrested and deported, they will be as well.

2. Use info from states that have issued illegals "driving privilege cards" and inform them they are slated for arrest if they do not leave. The threat of arrest will make most of them leave.

3. Deport all immigrant prisoners upon the finishing of their sentence, when they are release ICE is waiting with the a van.
4. No more Birth right ciztenship from a set date forward. No exceptions.

5. S1070 style act for renting/use of public schools.

6. Massive fines for people who hire them, raids on Aug/Construction sites, arrest the CEOs.

Their are ideas that have been tried and work.

You do realize that Donald Trump is the furthest left Republican candidate on economics, right?

Show me how his ideas will not work.

I've come across many of them on this forum, Twitter, YouTube, and on comments sections.

And how long have/what type of questions have you asked him?

Everyone supports freedom of speech for themselves.

We support it for everyone save slander, ect.

I'm not sure exactly what you are talking about here.

We fully support Freedom to and from Association and will work to restore it.

America is not like South Africa. We got rid of our racist laws fifty years ago. Most people get along just fine with people of other races.

Have you seen the crime rates?

Do you want to be under or disarmed in a nation ever more filled with people who dislike you?

Way to miss the point the point of that statement.

More over we support a fully restored 2nd Amendment. Want to buy machine guns on Amazon? Great have it. Sadly we can not restore such freedoms if we are displaced in our nation and out voted by imported hordes.

Of course you support it for yourselves.

I support it for everyone, where did I say I did not?

We would not have a need to infringe on it if we did not bring in people who liked to wage jihad.

I don't care about do process, I care about due process.

Once again why import people that give the state the excuse to throw out due process?

If the alt-right ever came into power would they not trample over state's rights to enforce segregation?

No, because the act of Freedom of Association would be a personal choice and the state would not have any means to punish a person for doing it.

Every group will do it and those who do not want to will be just fine. If a black man wants to only carter to black man and will not serve me, that is perfectly fine. Its his bar, property, ect and he should be able to deny anyone he wants.

I don't care about a school's racial makeup, but people in the alt-right do.

So why did do bring up segregation then?

Why do you care about the issue but bring it up?

If blacks and Hispanics are genetically programmed to love socialism wouldn't Bernie Sanders be the perfect fit for them?

Cultural they support them, They did not support Sanders because of the fact that he did not really connect with them.

More over they broke for Clinton because she pandered to them very hard.

I never said that either.

Great.

Oh, it's possible, but it would be extremely expensive and people could just use tunnels and boats.

The Israel comparison doesn't work. Israel doesn't have thousands of miles of borders.

More excuses. Tunnels will be detected and shut down, after a handful the cartel will stop using them as the cost will destroy their profit margins.

As for boats, the price will sky rocket and drones/cost guard will detect them them, stop them, and send them back. And even if they did get here, no IDs, no means to get a job, and no way to rent means they will go back.

And most of those miles are in the middle of no where, a fence, a camera and maybe a blimp drone and you are good. They will only tunnel in urban areas which will have tunnel detection.

Their is no reason why they will not work, only a desire and misguided fear.

I think Russia bans Americans from adopting their children.

You are aware their are other nations that make up Eastern Europe right.

From what I've seen, alt-rightists are obsessed with those two issues. Not as much as they are with immigration, but they clearly care deeply about it.

And we have told you why we care so much about immigration. If we do not stop it it will ensure the left has a permanent majority, they will be able to ram though any bill they wish. We have seen what happens when they have total power and we want nothing of it.

Your inablitly or lack of will to accept this fact does not mean it is any less true.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Permanently expanding the power of government in order to save yourselves from a mythological boogieman is not in your interest.

And it will not expand many times over if you add 30 million welfare voters? Yes or No?

If yes you have proved me right for wanting to deport them and ban their legal immigration.

And if no you are just reality detached.

Aaaand there's the dodge. Of course you have to support it, because it's one of the powers that government would need in order to implement the society that you want.

See my answer.

Economies are not zero-sum.

Tell that to those who are on the losing end of globalism..

Why not adopt an American child? Is it because the majority of children awaiting adoption in the US are not white?



Assuming that a transracial adoption always means that the child is coming from another country is a hilarious example of the logical biases that exist in the alt-right movement.

If race does not matter why did you bring up that stat?

No, you really don't. The recent growth of the alt-right movement, coinciding with an exponential increase in the use of the word "cuck" in alt-right everything, identifies which groups are joining the alt-right. Namely, fedora-hatted gentlesirs who believe that it's someone else's fault that they can't get a girlfriend and decided that it's nonwhites' fault, because them darkies are stealin' our white wimminsfolk.

Interracial couples are absolutely triggering for the majority of the alt-right.

So in other words you are memeing your way out as you do not have any valid points to make. Got it.

To you I wish you happy REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEING.

[cajuncocoa]

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[Tywysog Cymru]

And Clinton would be any better?

No, you clearly have issues with reading comprehension.

Also limiting immigration is in no way harmful to anyone`s Liberty if that is your point.

Harmful to immigrants' liberty.

Because they advance our cause/goals and they value and want to live in America, not deform it into a slum nation.

Dinesh D'Souza is another, he does not come here, bad mouth the nation, and demand we become India.

Most immigrants have no interest in turning the US into their native countries.

A few basic questions while hooked up to a lie detector, answer truthfully and if they pass, their applications are processed, failure will result in a 10 year denial.

Some exceptions might apply.

We see no reason to allow in people who support Marxism, globalism, gun control, etc into the nation.

Most of the problem is native-born Americans so that wouldn't change much.

Their is no benefit to bringing in subversives.

*There.

Its only useless because they will not wield power to advance it, that is one major theory on the alt right. Their are many others.

But the alt-right supports Trump, who certainly won't advance conservatism.

So they had no valid point about crime, disease, wages, cost of living, political representation? Great to see you are blind to history.

I think we are better off for having the Irish come to America.

Yes, they would still drive up the cost of living and they would still skew elections.

More over they will vote to recreate the welfare state as such political ideas are hardware into their culture.

I would have the same opposition to it if it was British or Germans who were coming here and changing the nation but they are not, are they?

You realize that immigrants are a small minority of the population, right?

How so?

The word "cuckold" has a well established definition, and the alt-right is trying to change the definition of the word.

We do just that, we also judge people by their actions and political views. Like Paul Ryan, we hate him because he always craves to the left when he could just deny them them their course of actions that will lead to infringements on our rights, or deny them bring in rapeugees. Such betrayal of his constituents for people who actively hate him and them is more then enough of a reason to unseat him.

So, you think people should be judged for their character and not their skin color?

Yeah, and? What is wrong? Can not make a point against self interests?

It might be in my self-interest to steal (more money for me). But that doesn't mean it would be a moral thing for me to do.

So do you hate people putting their well being before others who are indifferent/hateful of them?

Who hates who?

No, how did you deduce that?

I believe that my morals are better then those of my enemy and I will not obey moral rules or political ideals that my enemy forces on me to insure my destruction.

I accept that any moralistic system that hinders its survival or actively dooms its followers is immoral and should be throw into the trash were it belongs.

Would you agree with treating others like you would want to be treated?

Not a majority of them, and not if the current flood is not halted. Have you seen Brownsville, el paso? Entire areas along the border are nothing more then Mexico with better infrastructure, same crime, same, corruption, same political system, and the same bleak future.

I'd take those Democrats over Vermont Democrats.

Do basic regulations count? Such as protection from fraud, theft, trademark, etc?

No, I'm talking about the protectionism you advocate.

strategic deportation
1. Deport "activist" like Gaby Pacheco and Jose Antonio Vargas and broadcast it. Let people know we do not care about more. If they "activists" get arrested and deported, they will be as well.

2. Use info from states that have issued illegals "driving privilege cards" and inform them they are slated for arrest if they do not leave. The threat of arrest will make most of them leave.

3. Deport all immigrant prisoners upon the finishing of their sentence, when they are release ICE is waiting with the a van.
4. No more Birth right ciztenship from a set date forward. No exceptions.

5. S1070 style act for renting/use of public schools.

6. Massive fines for people who hire them, raids on Aug/Construction sites, arrest the CEOs.

Their are ideas that have been tried and work.

I don't think there would be any political will for that.

Show me how his ideas will not work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoot%...ley_Tariff_Act

And how long have/what type of questions have you asked him?

For about a year. I asked them the same questions I've asked you.

We support it for everyone save slander, ect.

Of course, can't let media figures get away with criticizing the great leader Donald Trump.

More over we support a fully restored 2nd Amendment. Want to buy machine guns on Amazon? Great have it. Sadly we can not restore such freedoms if we are displaced in our nation and out voted by imported hordes.

The native hordes have already voted away freedom.

Once again why import people that give the state the excuse to throw out due process?

What are you talking about?

So why did do bring up segregation then?

Why do you care about the issue but bring it up?

Alt-rightists are mad that they have to go to school with minorities.

Cultural they support them, They did not support Sanders because of the fact that he did not really connect with them.

More over they broke for Clinton because she pandered to them very hard.

What did she do that Sanders didn't?

More excuses. Tunnels will be detected and shut down, after a handful the cartel will stop using them as the cost will destroy their profit margins.

As for boats, the price will sky rocket and drones/cost guard will detect them them, stop them, and send them back. And even if they did get here, no IDs, no means to get a job, and no way to rent means they will go back.

And most of those miles are in the middle of no where, a fence, a camera and maybe a blimp drone and you are good. They will only tunnel in urban areas which will have tunnel detection.

Their is no reason why they will not work, only a desire and misguided fear.

Are you really willing to pay the inevitable tax increases to pay for this?

You are aware their are other nations that make up Eastern Europe right.

Yes, but Russia has more people than all the others combined.

And we have told you why we care so much about immigration. If we do not stop it it will ensure the left has a permanent majority, they will be able to ram though any bill they wish. We have seen what happens when they have total power and we want nothing of it.

Your inablitly or lack of will to accept this fact does not mean it is any less true.

Every society has a left and a right. The left will never have a permanent majority.

[P3ter_Griffin]

((()))

So $#@!in stupid you'd do this to a some-what receptive audience. Why not focus on describing what alliances you guys were able to make by sacrificing principles and how that is positioning the alt-right movement for success, and what the alt-right has to offer that is better than what is being offered? You guys gotta get your $#@! together.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

So $#@!in stupid you'd do this to a some-what receptive audience. Why not focus on describing what alliances you guys were able to make by sacrificing principles and how that is positioning the alt-right movement for success, and what the alt-right has to offer that is better than what is being offered? You guys gotta get your $#@! together.

Why we will win in so few words. We will offer you a better future then the current systems can.

[P3ter_Griffin]

Why we will win in so few words. We will offer you a better future then the current systems can.

That is what Ron offered too. And I thought it would be enough to win too.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

No, you clearly have issues with reading comprehension.

Then bash her as well then.

Harmful to immigrants' liberty.

Do they have the liberty to violate the laws of other nations?

Do they have the right to impose a burden on the People of America?

Do they have the right to vote away our rights and reduce our Liberty?

Yes or No?

Most immigrants have no interest in turning the US into their native countries.

Them voting for the left 8-2 proves you wrong.

If vote for marxism you support marxism, how is this that hard to understand?

Most of the problem is native-born Americans so that wouldn't change much.

Wages would increase
Prices for goods and housing would fall
Crime would decrease
Burdens on the tax base would decrease
Americans would not be out voted in areas of their nation.

Things would not be perfect, they never will be but they will be alot better without out millions of people to the nation every year and the open border/mass immigration supporters have no come back from this.

*There.

Blame auto correct.

But the alt-right supports Trump, who certainly won't advance conservatism.

He will advance our goals, namely immigration reduction, protecting the SC from another leftist judge, fighting the media/left and will aid us in gong forward with a united right, free from internationalist, open borders/cheap labor whores, "compromisers" and other traitors.

So what if he gets rid of NAFTA, enacts protectionist matters and tells the Neo Cons to FOAD, it means he is bring Nationalist/Paleo Lib/Conservatism back to its full glory.

I think we are better off for having the Irish come to America.

Answer the question, did they have a valid point about crime, disease, wages, cost of living, political representation? Yes or No?

You realize that immigrants are a small minority of the population, right?

The word "cuckold" has a well established definition, and the alt-right is trying to change the definition of the word.

No we are not, the actions are very much in line with the definition.

So, you think people should be judged for their character and not their skin color?

Some times.

It might be in my self-interest to steal (more money for me). But that doesn't mean it would be a moral thing for me to do.

And in the face of others who will steal from you? What will your course of action be? Be a victim or defend your wealth?

What if the thieves use the ballot box as a means to steal you?

Who hates who?

Do not play dumb. do you hate people putting their well being before others who are indifferent/hateful of them?

Would you agree with treating others like you would want to be treated?

I would, but others will want to be treated better, or use their race/etc as a means to rent seek. This is the real world not kindergarten.

I'd take those Democrats over Vermont Democrats.

What part of the following stat do you not understand?



They will just vote Dem all the same if you allow them in, the end result is you have Mexico in Texas.

No, I'm talking about the protectionism you advocate.

Import tariffs, etc.

I don't think there would be any political will for that.

http://www.investors.com/politics/ed...ts-poll-finds/

Sell it as a tax break, crime reeducation bill, environmental protection bill, etc.

Where were to riots when we sent back that Cuban boy?

You seem to believe your own bias, not a good thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoot%...ley_Tariff_Act

Yeah it had nothing to do with what else was going on in America at the time, right?

For about a year. I asked them the same questions I've asked you.

What answers have you gotten?

Of course, can't let media figures get away with criticizing the great leader Donald Trump.

No, we can not allow them to get away with lying. If they are honest what they have to fear? The MSM is just about in the grave, lets push it in.

The native hordes have already voted away freedom.

And we can get them back, be we can not do so if we are displaced by hordes of leftist voters.

You seem to not want to learn these lessons, does not change the fact they are still true.

What are you talking about?

Why import groups that will commit terrorist acts and give the government an excuse to strip us of our rights?

Alt-rightists are mad that they have to go to school with minorities.

Yes that is it, isnt? It has nothing to do with wasting countless dollars on educating people in English, educating the kids of or students that are illegal, being told we can not wear shirts with US flags on them to school, or risk being beaten up by gangs of kids that do noting but come to school just to start trouble, right?

Not that will answer the question honestly, you will just weave around it.

What did she do that Sanders didn't?

What part of "out pander" and "election fraud" can you not understand?

Are you really willing to pay the inevitable tax increases to pay for this?

Are you willing to pay the massive tax burden for an open border/mass immigration system? Even higher then you pay now?

A wall at most is 10 billion in a one time cost, tunnel detection is very automated, at most only 20 million.

By default its cheaper then mass immigration.

But you would have us do nothing, and suffer the preventable burden of a 100 billion dollar plus burden, the threat of violent crime/terrorism of imported threats, and the very real issue of voter displacement.

In short you would have us suffer what we suffer now, the course of action without a wall and a never ending flood of immigration.

That fact you can not see that is beyond me.

Yes, but Russia has more people than all the others combined.

Who gives a $#@!? Eastern Europe is a general area, like middle east or South America.

Every society has a left and a right. The left will never have a permanent majority.

Yes it will, it has one in CA, NY (the whole of the north east save for NH) and many other nations around the world it does.

What reason do you have to believe it wont?

How can you not have a permanent majority when you bring in around 2.5 million people every year on top of creating millions more dependent poverty stricken people in your nation?

[P3ter_Griffin]

Does the alt-right have a hierarchy.. 'a captain to navigate the ocean and make the tough decisions'?

[RestorationOfLiberty]

That is what Ron offered too. And I thought it would be enough to win too.

He lacked the attack dogness. You can not be civil with the left.

You cannnot be civil with people who use the media as a weapon against you, who lie, who reject facts and even the very fabric of reality. You can
not project your values on to groups that are indifferent or hostile to them.Ron Paul got alot right, but what he gets wrong is what damns it all.

We will win because we will give others a better future. How? well we are unhinged, we are not bound by "PC" or the lies of egalitarianism. We are making more and more gains and the left has no weapons other then lying, naming calling and importing low iq ringers.

We have facts, stats, and a better vision of the country and future, more over the left can not outrun its failure

[pcosmar]

Does the alt-right have a hierarchy.. 'a captain to navigate the ocean and make the tough decisions'?

GOOD QUESTION..

that type seems to need that authoritarian environment to function.

[pcosmar]

We have facts, stats, and a better vision of the country and future, more over the left can not outrun its failure

I am so sorry.

it is going to hurt bad when you crash.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Does the alt-right have a hierarchy.. 'a captain to navigate the ocean and make the tough decisions'?

More or less we have have people in positions of leadership who share their views, ideas, and goals, and the people of the Alt Right have largely the same views on the major issues.

We are slowly taking back the GOP, purging it of its members who are indifferent or hostile to us, cleansing the right of "cuck hubs" or "neo con nods" like NRO or weekly standard, take back the culture/entertainment. More or less we have been around since early 1950s but people like Buckley wanted to make the right look "reseptable" to the left (an impossible goal as they left will always hate us just because we refuse to give up and give them everything)so him and his Neo Con ilk went around and shut down anyone who really wanted to win and could win as that would upset the left.

NRO 'read out" any one who valued winning over "compromise" with the left. Hell George Romney and Rockefeller (mittens dad) activley led the faction to keep Goldwater out the White House.

Label anyone who does not play along "racist" or "Extremists".


The NRO reading out people like Coulter, Derbyshire, Brimalow, really did show their hand but their whole "We would rather lose on "muh principals" (what ever they are that week) really did show them for their frauds they are. They have no desire to fix things, all they want to do is write a book, do the talk shows, and whine about how they need to be better losers, well more and more people did not like that.

What really set things off was the way they derailed Ron Paul in Iowa and from getting the party nomination, they got their puppets (McCamnesty and Mittens) and lost. They retook the Congress and did nothing to stop Obama, even now they surrender on thinks like budgets and leftist cries for gun control, and even calling for giving the moron another judge on the court when they can give them the finger but that would require a spine.

So fast forward to today. They tried to Ron Paul Trump and they got stomped, the Neo Cons know that should he win they are finished (as they should be) their are failures on immigration, trade, taxes, regulations, gun rights, all the while telling their base they should die off, how they are racist if they do not want to live in a area that is now a slum thanks to immigration, and how they need to "listen to their betters".

Well Trump has sized upon this and has tapped into the massive righteous anger in this nation by people who have been left behind by mass immigration, "free trade", a never ending regulation state, inflation, etc.

They can not get the genie back in the bottle, they are in a mad dash to "Stump Trump" but in doing so they have failed and they have shown themselves for the rootless cosmopolitan elitism. A cabal of men who will gladly kill off America and our Liberty if means GDP goes up a faction of a percentage points. The mask is off and the right is over taking this small cabal and doing so with a shoe string budget and in lighting speed thanks to the internet giving a voice and tools to armies of disaffected, economically ruined youth that are done giving a $#@!, tried of being called a rapist just because they want to have sex with women, tried of being called racist because of wanting to live in America rather then some 3rd world slum, tried of being blamed for what our forefathers did and what other people still do, tried of being told "are you afraid you can not out compete" people who will work for a slave wage. People are reaching the people where giving a $#@! is too costly and we have no desire to appease groups that hate us.

With Paul Ryan`s and McCain lose in their primaries (God willing) it will be a great thing to see the Establishment be removed and the true right restored, and with that, with the GOP and its wealth/resources under our control the left will have no idea what will have happened..

Liberty will be restored and regain
Immigration sanity will be restored
National Sovereignty will be restored
And the left will be on the defensive until it implodes

[P3ter_Griffin]

GOOD QUESTION..

that type seems to need that authoritarian environment to function.

haha.

I think its probably a good thing for a movement, just like an organization. Not necessarily with just one authority but possibly a body that can examine its success and failure, gauge its ability to have success with different paths, and choose one. I don't personally think there is any chance at a revolution on the federal level at this point. And without that body to examine this and guide their members on a better path I don't see a great chance of success or an ability to hold the movement together.

[pcosmar]

More or less we have have people in positions of leadership who share their views, ideas, and goals, and the people of the Alt Right have largely the same views on the major issues.

We are slowly taking back the GOP, purging it of its members who are indifferent or hostile to us, cleansing the right of "cuck hubs" or "neo con nods" like NRO or weekly standard, take back the culture/entertainment. More or less we have been around since early 1950s but people like Buckley wanted to make the right look "reseptable" to the left (an impossible goal as they left will always hate us just because we refuse to give up and give them everything)so him and his Neo Con ilk went around and shut down anyone who really wanted to win and could win as that would upset the left.

NRO 'read out" any one who valued winning over "compromise" with the left. Hell George Romney and Rockefeller (mittens dad) activley led the faction to keep Goldwater out the White House.

Label anyone who does not play along "racist" or "Extremists".


The NRO reading out people like Coulter, Derbyshire, Brimalow, really did show their hand but their whole "We would rather lose on "muh principals" (what ever they are that week) really did show them for their frauds they are. They have no desire to fix things, all they want to do is write a book, do the talk shows, and whine about how they need to be better losers, well more and more people did not like that.

What really set things off was the way they derailed Ron Paul in Iowa and from getting the party nomination, they got their puppets (McCamnesty and Mittens) and lost. They retook the Congress and did nothing to stop Obama, even now they surrender on thinks like budgets and leftist cries for gun control, and even calling for giving the moron another judge on the court when they can give them the finger but that would require a spine.

So fast forward to today. They tried to Ron Paul Trump and they got stomped, the Neo Cons know that should he win they are finished (as they should be) their are failures on immigration, trade, taxes, regulations, gun rights, all the while telling their base they should die off, how they are racist if they do not want to live in a area that is now a slum thanks to immigration, and how they need to "listen to their betters".

Well Trump has sized upon this and has tapped into the massive righteous anger in this nation by people who have been left behind by mass immigration, "free trade", a never ending regulation state, inflation, etc.

They can not get the genie back in the bottle, they are in a mad dash to "Stump Trump" but in doing so they have failed and they have shown themselves for the rootless cosmopolitan elitism. A cabal of men who will gladly kill off America and our Liberty if means GDP goes up a faction of a percentage points. The mask is off and the right is over taking this small cabal and doing so with a shoe string budget and in lighting speed thanks to the internet giving a voice and tools to armies of disaffected, economically ruined youth that are done giving a $#@!, tried of being called a rapist just because they want to have sex with women, tried of being called racist because of wanting to live in America rather then some 3rd world slum, tried of being blamed for what our forefathers did and what other people still do, tried of being told "are you afraid you can not out compete" people who will work for a slave wage. People are reaching the people where giving a $#@! is too costly and we have no desire to appease groups that hate us.

With Paul Ryan`s and McCain lose in their primaries (God willing) it will be a great thing to see the Establishment be removed and the true right restored, and with that, with the GOP and its wealth/resources under our control the left will have no idea what will have happened..

Liberty will be restored and regain
Immigration sanity will be restored
National Sovereignty will be restored
And the left will be on the defensive until it implodes

saving this for posterity.


and history repeats key words

[P3ter_Griffin]

Thanks for laying that out there Resotration. I hope you don't mistake my doubt for pessimism. You guys are trying to slay a big beast.

[pcosmar]

No, we allow in Michelle Malkin

yeah ,,but only cuz shes hot.


Hell,, I'd do her if she could shut up.
but i HAVEN'T BEEN LAID WELL IN A WHILE.

I seriously can not see how anyone with functioning brain cells could tolerate her otherwise.

apologies to the ladies of the forum that have come to know me.
no one has cured that yet.




and i think most of you would be better options.

[pcosmar]

haha.

I think its probably a good thing for a movement, just like an organization. Not necessarily with just one authority but possibly a body that can examine its success and failure,

I do not my friend,,but from another direction..

But Jesus called them aside and said, “You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their superiors exercise authority over them. It shall not be this way among you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant,

it shall not be this way among you.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

saving this for posterity.


and history repeats key words

And when we win will you eat crow?

[pcosmar]

And when we win will you eat crow?

I was a dumpster diver in the Reagan administration. and things went downhill under Bush.
Hillary v a GOP troll


hm, give me a couple years,



























and who the phuk is this "we" you refer to?

[Natural Citizen]

...we are unhinged...

Which makes "we" a reckless liability. Best to think things through all the way.




Have you heard the one about the two bulls?

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Thanks for laying that out there Resotration. I hope you don't mistake my doubt for pessimism. You guys are trying to slay a big beast.

We have many battles to fight, and we might lose a few, but if you do not fight you lose by default.



They may have all the watches, but we have all the time and remember this welfare state is build the debt and lies of fiat currency.


Credit growth = debt growth, & debt growth when debt is money = wealth growth.

Wealth represented by debt is entirely dependent upon stable or declining interest rates.

Now that a veritable OCEAN of bonds is in existence, even a small rise in i results in massive losses of bond capital value.

Rates at ZIRP is like hydrogen gas, only a tiny spark will both detonate markets AND send world economies crashing to earth.

Central banks DO NOT have control of rates. They only appear to control the elevator and they're flying into a storm saturated with wind shear.

Join us and help shape the future.

yeah ,,but only cuz shes hot.


Hell,, I'd do her if she could shut up.

So its not because she is smart, understand the harm of immigration and does not want leftists to have any more power? Its just because of her looks?

but i HAVEN'T BEEN LAID WELL IN A WHILE.

I seriously can not see how anyone with functioning brain cells could tolerate her otherwise.

apologies to the ladies of the forum that have come to know me.
no one has cured that yet.

That is not hard to believe at all.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Which makes "we" a reckless liability. Best to think things through all the way.




Have you heard the one about the two bulls?

I love that movie...

WE do think things through all the way and our actions are very much based on logic and facts, that being said we can not win every battle but that does not stop us from trying to do so.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

I was a dumpster diver in the Reagan administration. and things went downhill under Bush.
Hillary v a GOP troll


hm, give me a couple years,



























and who the phuk is this "we" you refer to?

So the entire nation should suffer because of your failures?