From Sikh to Christian: "Why I Don't Believe In Nikki Haley's 'Conversion'"

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Stumbled on this old NPR article, turns out that like "Obama is a secret Muslim" controversy, there is also a "Nikki Haley is a secret Sikh" controversy apparently.

• Nimrata Nikki Randhawa grew up with the Sikh faith. In 1996, at the age of 24 and before her marriage to Michael Haley, she converted to Christianity.
• In the late 1990’s and early 2000’s, Nikki seemed comfortable with both Methodist Christian and Sikh religions. But, towards the latter end of the 2000 decade, she referred to herself only as a Methodist Christian.

Why I Don't Believe In Nikki Haley's 'Conversion'

Published June 23, 20104:56 PM ET
Sohini Baliga


Nikki Haley speaks to supporters Tuesday at an election party after winning the South Carolina GOP gubernatorial nomination.
Chris Keane/Getty Images

You can't be Indian in the U.S. this week and not have people ask you the million dollar question - "What do you think of Bobby Jindal and Nikki Haley changing their names and converting?"

As for Ms. Haley, after much back-and-forthing on Facebook, I do finally believe that Nikki is a common Punjabi name for a girl. And it certainly isn't up there with going from Piyush to Bobby.
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Now. The Christian bit.

Honestly? I’m not buying.

Before I go any further, I should state unequivocally that I think it's ridiculous for her to prove her bona fides over and over (then again, I didn't care that Mitt Romney was Mormon either, and I don't think how you find God is anyone's beeswax, period - but that's a whole other post). Still, I can't help thinking - lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas.

People, it's South Carolina, not New York City. Based on everything I've ever read or heard, being Christian is more or less the price of entry to political candidacy in that part of the country and if you want to go for it, that's your choice. But by the same yardstick, if you do that, you don't then get to turn around and wonder why the people who created the system constantly question what may seem to them to be a conversion of convenience. You also don't get to complain if that same mindset suggests that your conversion isn't good enough for them.

It's a terrible analogy, but frankly, it's a bit like the first free black person realizing that no matter what, his money wasn't good enough at some white stores. And that isn't a knock purely on American society. I'd say it's pretty human and universal. In general, systems are created to make it hard for outsiders - however you define "outsider." Not the other way around. And again, it's S.O.U.T.H. C.A.R.O.L.I.N.A! Some of those folks really do take their religion dead serious, and your finding Jesus is something they're going to question if they find it a leap that's also politically expedient.

http://www.npr.org/sections/tellmemo...y-s-conversion




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Obama cancelled trip to Sikh temple for fear of looking moslem in photos

54% of GOP Believe 'Deep Down' Obama Is a Muslim

[Zippyjuan]

Noting that Sikhs are not Muslims (or Hindus). http://sikhism.about.com/od/Toleranc...hs-Muslims.htm

And she is a native born Southerner.

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Noting that Sikhs are not Muslims (or Hindus). http://sikhism.about.com/od/Toleranc...hs-Muslims.htm

There are some similarities between the two religions according to sikhwiki:

https://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/...hism_and_Islam






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Published: January 27, 2016



PHOTO: REUTERS

A Sikh man — who was escorted out of a Donald Trump rally — has hit back at the Republican presidential candidate by calling him ‘childish’.

[Zippyjuan]

Showing more of his ignorance.

There are some similarities between the two religions according to sikhwiki:

https://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/...hism_and_Islam

Christians actually share a lot of things with Islam too. Their texts even share some of the same authors as well as prophets. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/globalconnec...emes/religion/

http://www.islamicity.org/4654/how-i...y-and-judaism/

Judaism Christianity, and Islam, in contrast to Hinduism and Buddhism, are all monotheistic faiths that worship the God of Adam, Abraham, and Moses-creator, sustainer, and lord of the universe. They share a common belief in the oneness of God (monotheism), sacred history (history as the theater of God’s activity and the encounter of God and humankind), prophets and divine revelation, angels, and Satan. All stress moral responsibility and accountability, Judgment Day, and eternal reward and punishment.

All three faiths emphasize their special covenant with God, for Judaism through Moses, Christianity through Jesus, and Islam through Muhammad. Christianity accepts God’s covenant with and revelation to the Jews but traditionally has seen itself as superseding Judaism with the coming of Jesus. Thus Christianity speaks of its new covenant and New Testament. So, too, Islam and Muslims recognize Judaism and Christianity: their biblical prophets (among them Adam, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus) and their revelations (the Torah and the New Testament, or Message of Jesus). Muslim respect for all the biblical prophets is reflected in the custom of saying “Peace and blessings be upon him” after naming any of the prophets and in the common usage of the names Ibrahim (Abraham), Musa (Moses), Daoud (David), Sulayman (Solomon), and Issa (Jesus) for Muslims. In addition, Islam makes frequent reference to Jesus and to the Virgin Mary, who is cited more times in the Quran than in the New Testament.

[Dianne]

I don't believe in anything Haley has to say. Once she removed the Confederate flag, as though it was solely responsible for Obama's Charleston false flag; f'k her. She's just another lying bitch politician.

[Miss Annie]

I don't believe in anything Haley has to say. Once she removed the Confederate flag, as though it was solely responsible for Obama's Charleston false flag; f'k her. She's just another lying bitch politician.

Amen sistah!

[TheTexan]

Huh. I thought she was the other kind of Indian. Go figure.

[sparebulb]

Huh. I thought she was the other kind of Indian. Go figure.

[Ender]

Who gives a crap?

[navy-vet]

Who gives a crap?

amen

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Who gives a crap?

Noted that you won't care.

But what %age of South Carolinians care about the religion of their governor? Mostly likely majority does.

[Mani]

What's wrong if she visits Sikh temples?


Sikh temples are open for all people, anyone can go.

[Ender]

Noted that you won't care.

But what %age of South Carolinians care about the religion of their governor? Mostly likely majority does.

So that old "separation of church & state" is only if people agree with the religion?

So, if they are Orthodox Christians, everything's cool, but if their Muslim. Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist, atheist, or heaven forbid, Catholic or MORMON, then we should all run around with our hands in the air?

Sikhs are predominately peaceful- there have been many posts already about them being attacked because some 'Murikan thought they were Muslim.

What matters is if the woman is honest in her dealings and is a statesman, rather than a politician.

[ZENemy]

My skydaddy can beat up your skydaddy.

[TheCount]

My skydaddy can beat up your skydaddy.

The skydaddy my parents taught me about is right; your parents skydaddy is wrong.

[idiom]

Why the are Americans so scared of Sikhs?
Or Mexicans? Or Chinese? Or the Irish? Or Natives? Or Jews? Or Arabs? Or Indians? Or Africans?

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So that old "separation of church & state" is only if people agree with the religion?

So, if they are Orthodox Christians, everything's cool, but if their Muslim. Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist, atheist, or heaven forbid, Catholic or MORMON, then we should all run around with our hands in the air?

Sikhs are predominately peaceful- there have been many posts already about them being attacked because some 'Murikan thought they were Muslim.
What matters is if the woman is honest in her dealings and is a statesman, rather than a politician.

I hope you are not genuinely shocked that US voters, especially Republican voters, care a lot about religon of candidates.

You are right in that vast majority of Sikhs are peaceful, but if Nimrata Randhawa aka Nikki Haley is a Sikh, she might be an exception as she apparently supports lies based violent bloodbath of Iraq war that Bush led and defends it even today.

Christians actually share a lot of things with Islam too. Their texts even share some of the same authors as well as prophets. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/globalconnec...emes/religion/

http://www.islamicity.org/4654/how-i...y-and-judaism/

Maybe so but there is a lot more in common between Judaism and Islam.

[presence]

What's wrong if she visits Sikh temples?


Sikh temples are open for all people, anyone can go.

that's devil worship, careful or you might summon a stoning upon yourself

[Ender]

I hope you are not genuinely shocked that US voters, especially Republican voters, care a lot about religon of candidates.

You are right in that vast majority of Sikhs are peaceful, but if Nimrata Randhawa aka Nikki Haley is a Sikh, she might be an exception as she apparently supports lies based violent bloodbath of Iraq war that Bush led and defends it even today.

Well, THAT'S an oxymoron. Republican voters care about religion but won't vote for a defender of war-mongering Bush? Most ALL Republican war-partyers favor Bush- she should fit right in.

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Well, THAT'S an oxymoron. Republican voters care about religion but won't vote for a defender of war-mongering Bush? Most ALL Republican war-partyers favor Bush- she should fit right in.

Normally so... but there is a change brewing.

"Pretty extraordinary rebellion is taking place inside GOP that a guy who says that Bush lied about WMDs/does not see McCain as "war hero"/rebukes Lindsey Graham/calls Obama stupid is leading GOP race. "

What's wrong if she visits Sikh temples?


Sikh temples are open for all people, anyone can go.

I personally think it is great.

Obama also recently visited a mosque.

[Ender]

Normally so... but there is a change brewing.

"Pretty extraordinary rebellion is taking place inside GOP that a guy who says that Bush lied about WMDs/does not see McCain as "war hero"/rebukes Lindsey Graham/calls Obama stupid is leading GOP race. "

Well, viva la change- I'm all for it. Just don't want to see Sihks now on the hatred list. have NO patience with unwarranted prejudice, as you may have noticed.

[Slave Mentality]

that's devil worship, careful or you might summon a stoning upon yourself

Summon up a stoning, you say?

[heavenlyboy34]

Why are some Americans so scared of Sikhs?
Or Mexicans? Or Chinese? Or the Irish? Or Natives? Or Jews? Or Arabs? Or Indians? Or Africans?

FIFY. Good question-IDK.

[enhanced_deficit]

Well, viva la change- I'm all for it. Just don't want to see Sihks now on the hatred list. have NO patience with unwarranted prejudice, as you may have noticed.

In the interest of not collectively lumping together all people of a group, it should be pointed out that OP News and related discussion was about just one former (or current) Sikh Nikki Halley who happens to be a pro war violence individual. She would be a fake Christian just on this account too.

[Indy Vidual]

...

Why I Don't Believe In Nikki Haley's 'Conversion'

"Never question a man's (or woman's) religious beliefs"




ps. Obama is a secret Muslim born in Africa.

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Why the are Americans so scared of Sikhs?
Or Mexicans? Or Chinese? Or the Irish? Or Natives? Or Jews? Or Arabs? Or Indians? Or Africans?

When you have a President of a country too scared to look like a sikh in photos.. you can imagine how strong the prejudices might be among the "ignorant" folks of the society.

Obama cancelled trip to Sikh temple for fear of looking moslem in photos

ps. Obama is a secret Muslim born in Africa.

To be fair, Obama had claimed to be a Christian on national TV:

[RonPaulMall]

Noted that you won't care.

But what %age of South Carolinians care about the religion of their governor? Mostly likely majority does.

The majority only cares that she pretends to be a Christian. Religion is a way of signaling identity. By converting to Christianity and outwardly displaying fealty to the Christian God she is telling the people of South Carolina that she is one of them, and that is all people really want. She screwed all that up with the flag of course, but that too was signaling. Haley is nearing the end of her term and by spitting on the Southern Battle Flag she is saying to the Washington elites that she is NOT some backwards hick from South Carolina but rather an enlightened Establishment player fully worthy of a plush lobbying job in DC or perhaps consideration for the Vice Presidency.

[farreri]

by spitting on the Southern Battle Flag

A sizable portion of the country feels the southern battle flag spits on them. The confederate flag is American's version of the Nazi flag. Deal with it.

[Indy Vidual]

A sizable portion of the country feels the southern battle flag spits on them. The confederate flag is American's version of the Nazi flag. Deal with it.

In too many parts of the world, the American flag is a modern version of the Nazi flag.
Deal with it?

[Mani]

In too many parts of the world, the American flag is a modern version of the Nazi flag.
Deal with it?

But we are the good guys!! What have we ever done bad to people....Besides bombing bad guys! And accidentally bombing grandmas picking okra...You know that's just collateral damage, war is hell you know...