Trump on Foreign Policy

[r3volution 3.0]

As of this moment, I'm done arguing with the **********s.

If Trump's not elected, problem solved.

If he is, well, the people who will suffer the most are his supporters.

They're the folks who won't be able to find a job, who won't be able to afford the higher prices resulting from his tariff, & who will fight and die in his wars.

So be it, clean out the gene pool.

I wash my hands.

[nikcers]

As of this moment, I'm done arguing with the **********s.

If Trump's not elected, problem solved.

If he is, well, the people who will suffer the most are his supporters.

They're the folks who won't be able to find a job, who won't be able to afford the higher prices resulting from his tariff, & who will fight and die in his wars.

So be it, clean out the gene pool.

I wash my hands.

You're right, Rand argued the logical conclusion to our foreign policy years ago.

U.S. Allies Now Fighting CIA-Backed Rebels

[charrob]

Makes more sense? he's advocated and voted for the proxy war we have right now in Syria.

Link please.

And what do you mean voted for? Are you talking about Cruz or Trump?

[r3volution 3.0]

You're right, Rand argued the logical conclusion to our foreign policy years ago.

U.S. Allies Now Fighting CIA-Backed Rebels

Curiously, the DoD agrees, according to Seymour Hersh anyway.

[Son_of_Liberty90]

Link please.

And what do you mean voted for? Are you talking about Cruz or Trump?

Obviously Cruz, as Trump was never elected to vote on anything.

[nikcers]

Link please.

And what do you mean voted for? Are you talking about Cruz or Trump?

Who has Trump voted for in the past? Was trump a Ron Paul Republican???, or did he endorse Mitt Romney and before that Clinton.

https://youtu.be/hZxD_RFvXpA?t=22m26s

O'reilly : Libya- um, the libyan action is being explained as a humanitarian issue

"I support stopping that kind of slaughter, but the problem is where do you stop..."

Iraq:
"To the victor go the spoils"
"as sure as you are sitting there Iran is going to come in and take over the oil (in Iraq), you stay and you take the oil"

"I am the most militaristic person that you will find."

[r3volution 3.0]

Link please.

And what do you mean voted for? Are you talking about Cruz or Trump?

Does it concern you that your orange-haired boy-toy is for socialized medicine, and bailouts, and 'stimulus,' etc?

[Krugminator2]

Honestly no one else's foreign policy running either D or R makes more sense. Could he change his mind once in office, yea, sure. But right now all we can do is look at what he is saying and take it at face value. Trump isn't a career politician as evidence of his missteps. Honestly the US doesn't need anymore politicians that do the same old.

That is a meaningless statement. Once you get elected you are by definition a politician. The people in office are never the root cause of a problem. They are profit seeking animals just like everyone else and they are just giving the people what they want.

And I would add, Trump is the ultimate give you whatever you want candidate. He is all things to all people and his only set position is that trade makes people worse off.

[nikcers]

Who has Trump voted for in the past? Was trump a Ron Paul Republican???, or did he endorse Mitt Romney and before that Clinton.

https://youtu.be/hZxD_RFvXpA?t=22m26s

O'reilly : Libya- um, the libyan action is being explained as a humanitarian issue

"I support stopping that kind of slaughter, but the problem is where do you stop..."

Iraq:
"To the victor go the spoils"
"as sure as you are sitting there Iran is going to come in and take over the oil (in Iraq), you stay and you take the oil"

"I am the most militaristic person that you will find."

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[charrob]

Obviously Cruz, as Trump was never elected to vote on anything.

In this post nikcers stated this about Trump:

He's advocated and voted for the proxy war we have right now in Syria. Trump is more of the same, but if you want to vote for him so you can feel like you made a difference go for it.

So that was my question: what in the world is he talking about? Trump never voted for a proxy war or advocated for one. He's the only politician that hasn't. So I told him to provide a link. Otherwise his post is meaningless.

[nikcers]

In this post nikcers stated this about Trump:




So that was my question: what in the world is he talking about? Trump never voted for a proxy war or advocated for one. He's the only politician that hasn't. So I told him to provide a link. Otherwise his post is meaningless.

You're meaningless, did you watch the video? He advocated for Hillary and said he supported Hillarys war in Libya.

[r3volution 3.0]

That is a meaningless statement. Once you get elected you are by definition a politician. The people in office are never the root cause of a problem. They are profit seeking animals just like everyone else and they are just giving the people what they want.

And I would add, Trump is the ultimate give you whatever you want candidate. He is all things to all people and his only set position is that trade makes people worse off.

[PaleoPaul]

At least he wouldn't be a neo-con like Jeb!, Robio, or Shrillary.

[Miss Annie]

Trump's foreign policy is a close to Ron's and Rand's as they come (in this election anyway).

[charrob]

You're meaningless, did you watch the video? He advocated for Hillary and said he supported Hillarys war in Libya.

You stated Trump advocated and voted for our proxy wars.

Here is your video at a different time interval where Trump is specifically stating not to arm "rebels" because the "rebels" will be worse than Gaddafi would be. That completely invalidates your original statement.

[r3volution 3.0]

Trump's foreign policy is a close to Ron's and Rand's as they come (in this election anyway).

No

[nikcers]

Trump's foreign policy is a close to Ron's and Rand's as they come (in this election anyway).

Did i miss it? Did Ron or Rand endorse Trump yet? Until they do you are full of $#@!.

[nikcers]

You stated Trump advocated and voted for our proxy wars.

Here is your video at a different time interval where Trump is specifically stating not to arm "rebels" because the "rebels" will be worse than Gaddafi would be. That completely invalidates your original statement.

Trump invalidates his own statements. You invalidate your intelligence by advocating for his candidacy.

[charrob]

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kcchiefs6465 just negative rep'd me. For what kcchief, having an honest debate? Instead of negative rep'ing me, how about you answer to your last attacks on my post about Assange? You never could answer to that, could you? Because it wasn't true!

So just because people prove you wrong you negative rep them? (By the way, i've never negative rep'd anyone.) Show us all what a big man you are kcchief and come up with those links that prove your statements.

In case you forgot that last attack on my post, here's your post and my response:

Donald Trump is the only candidate calling for a preemptive strike on North Korea.

How do you reconcile the want of invading North Korea, causing the deaths of thousands of US troops stationed in South Korea, provoking a conflict with China, and leading to the deaths of a few millions, probably, with peace?

Is Trump good on the conflict in Yemen? I seem to recall him speaking of what? A military coup and 'taking their oil'?

Or do you think installing dictatorships and pillaging resources promotes peace in Yemen?

Well at least Trump is good on Iran, China, and Russia. Oh wait, he's godawful with regards to policy towards those countries, too.

Honestly, do you think Trump could find Yemen on an unlabeled map? No worries, though. I'm sure JSOC could.

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Kcchief,

I do not own a television and get news off the net when I get home at night. So I may miss things that others see. I have not heard of any of what you have said above. And if Donald Trump wants to do these things I will absolutely not vote for him. But first I’ve got to hear him saying it. I’ve carefully watched every single debate: and there is .not. .one. .single. instance in any of these debates where he took the role as warmonger. When questioned about foreign policy and war, he was quick to say very noninterventionist stuff and then quickly changed the conversation before he could get booed from the ravenous republican base.

I will owe you a lot of gratitude if Trump says these things. The only reason I wanted to vote for him was because, unlike all others except RP in the debates, he seemed to speak the language of a noninterventionist. At least in the debates.

There have been many things said about Trump: when I read them I went to youtube to find out if he actually stated the things that were written in numerous news articles. And sure enough, these news articles twisted what he actually said. For example his supposed statement that “he wants to keep all Muslims out of the country”: however, if you listen to his statements in a video he said TEMPORARILY until we figure out what is going on. Another news article stated he wanted to put all Muslims on “lists” in this country: again, that wasn’t true when hearing him on video: on video he said only new immigrants to the country NOT Muslim-American citizens.

Your statements above may be absolutely correct, but before I believe the statements in news stories online, I’d like to find online videos of him actually saying these things. If you could help find the following issues that you mentioned above in video format I’d be most obliged:

• Preemptive strike on North Korea.
• A military coup of Yemen and taking the Yemeni’s oil.
• Awful policies on Russia.
• Awful policies on Iran.
• Awful policies on China.


I’ll look also when I get some time. If we can find these things than I only have you to thank for setting me straight.

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[kcchiefs6465]

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kcchiefs6465 just negative rep'd me. For what kcchief, having an honest debate? Instead of negative rep'ing me, how about you answer to your last attacks on my post about Assange? You never could answer to that, could you? Because it wasn't true!

So just because people prove you wrong you negative rep them? (By the way, i've never negative rep'd anyone.) Show us all what a big man you are kcchief and come up with those links that prove your statements.

In case you forgot that last attack on my post, here's your post and my response:






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I couldn't answer it because I am on a piece of $#@! phone where even copying and pasting is a PITA.

Even typing this was annoying.

So instead, until the moderators read their PMs or reported posts, I am going to neg rep every socialist, fascist, government agent, and/or government whore for every post it allows me to.

I apologize you were swept up in the broad net that was casted.

[charrob]

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Okay so kcchiefs6465 negative rep'd me a second time.

He cannot find links where Trump stated he wanted to nuke North Korea (which he said Trump said). And because he feels so defeated since he was wrong, instead of being man enough to acknowledge it, he negative reps people. Small man. Very very small.

[kcchiefs6465]

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Okay so kcchiefs6465 negative rep'd me a second time.

He cannot find links where Trump stated he wanted to nuke North Korea (which he said Trump said). And because he feels so defeated since he was wrong, instead of being man enough to acknowledge it, he negative reps people. Small man. Very very small.

Like I said, eight more people or so, and you'll have another. Mods must be on vacation.

[Origanalist]

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Okay so kcchiefs6465 negative rep'd me a second time.

He cannot find links where Trump stated he wanted to nuke North Korea (which he said Trump said). And because he feels so defeated since he was wrong, instead of being man enough to acknowledge it, he negative reps people. Small man. Very very small.

To be clear, are you now here advocating for Trump?

[charrob]

I couldn't answer it because I am on a piece of $#@! phone where even copying and pasting is a PITA.

Even typing this was annoying.

So instead, until the moderators read their PMs or reported posts, I am going to neg rep every socialist, fascist, government agent, and/or government whore for every post it allows me to.

I apologize you were swept up in the broad net that was casted.

Then why did you negative rep me a second time if you were so 'sorry'?

This thread has nothing to do with any of the issues you have stated above (socialist, fascist, government agent...). It's simply and clearly a debate over Trump's foreign policy. There are other areas of Trump I do not agree with. But that's not what this thread's about. It's about Trump's foreign policy.

[kcchiefs6465]

Then why did you negative rep me a second time if you were so 'sorry'?

This thread has nothing to do with any of the issues you have stated above (socialist, fascist, government agent...). It's simply and clearly a debate over Trump's foreign policy. There are other areas of Trump I do not agree with. But that's not what this thread's about. It's about Trump's foreign policy.

Oh. You must have missed my sarcasm. I'm not sorry. Your point is $#@!ing retarded. And I pray that you are taxed exponentially until you are unable to even eat Ramen.

Or you are drafted.

Does that clear up my position any?

[charrob]

To be clear, are you now here advocating for Trump?

I'm not advocating for anybody. There's a lot of areas about Trump I don't like. But this is a thread about Trump's foreign policy, and on foreign policy Trump seems better than the other D and R candidates that are currently running.

[Origanalist]

I'm not advocating for anybody. There's a lot of areas about Trump I don't like. But this is a thread about Trump's foreign policy, and on foreign policy Trump seems better than the other D and R candidates that are currently running.

What part of Trump is full of $#@! do you not understand?

[charrob]

What part of Trump is full of $#@! do you not understand?

Rand is no longer running. Are you saying we should all stay home? Or vote for a third party candidate who has no chance of winning?

This thread is only about foreign policy. Maybe you're right, maybe he is a warmonger. But the things I've heard him say in the debates have indicated otherwise.

[r3volution 3.0]

If a majority want Trump, I want my account to be deleted.

[kcchiefs6465]

If a majority want Trump, I want my account to be deleted.

I'm still waiting. Neg repping the owner for being so goddamned slow about it hasn't done the trick either.