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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post
    That's pretty vague. And you jump from whatever that means, to saying that Graham's communication with these people must have been initiated by this other dude who was associated with them who was a Trump supporter?
    Not a trump supporter. Co-chair of Trump's veteran organization in NH. I'm pretty certain Franklin Graham doesn't hang out at the blogs that you or I do. I find it very suspicious how he got wrangled in all this.



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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    Not a trump supporter. Co-chair of Trump's veteran organization in NH.
    Same thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    I'm pretty certain Franklin Graham doesn't hang out at the blogs that you or I do. I find it very suspicious how he got wrangled in all this.
    And because your universe revolves around Donald Trump, he must have had something to do with it.



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    Oh my, this sounds ugly (

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    I find it very suspicious how he got wrangled in all this.
    Not when you apply Romans 13 and the fact that his father is the de facto official preacher to the President going back many decades.

    He was not wrangled.

    He is a part of the organization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erowe1 View Post

    And because your universe revolves around Donald Trump, he must have had something to do with it.
    There are no other major politicians with associates involved in this standoff. Just Trump at the moment. That's the reasoning. Cruz and Rubio called for them to be arrested or least that's what they paraphrased.

  8. #276
    No presidential candidate will defend these people.

    Boobus wants blood.

  9. #277
    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    No presidential candidate will defend these people.

    Boobus wants blood.
    Let me take a stab at it: Those protesting around the Federal building are the pulse of America, reflecting how deeply dissatisfied the people are with the current Federal government. Although I don't agree with their methods of bringing these issues to the forefront, I am sympathetic with the frustrations of an out of control, never ending, power grabbing Federal bureaucracy that must be held in check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianne View Post
    Let me take a stab at it: Those protesting around the Federal building are the pulse of America, reflecting how deeply dissatisfied the people are with the current Federal government. Although I don't agree with their methods of bringing these issues to the forefront, I am sympathetic with the frustrations of an out of control, never ending, power grabbing Federal bureaucracy that must be held in check.
    this ^^^^^
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

    Dilige et quod vis fac. ~ Saint Augustine

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

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    KerriAnne talking?
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

    Dilige et quod vis fac. ~ Saint Augustine

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah K View Post
    KerriAnne talking?
    I think so.

    KrisAnne Hall
    Last edited by Dr.3D; 02-11-2016 at 11:25 AM.



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    KrisAnne.
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

    Dilige et quod vis fac. ~ Saint Augustine

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

  15. #282
    She's gonna get these people amped up again.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  16. #283
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

    Dilige et quod vis fac. ~ Saint Augustine

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

  17. #284
    They're walking out.
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

    Dilige et quod vis fac. ~ Saint Augustine

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

  18. #285
    Oh no. What's he doing now?

  19. #286
    David has changed his mind (( . Doesn't want to come out, when the others have.

  20. #287
    David wants to die.
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

    Dilige et quod vis fac. ~ Saint Augustine

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

  21. #288
    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah K View Post
    David wants to die.
    That's what I'm afraid of.



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  23. #289
    Frikken David. They agreed to come out when Fiore and Franklin arrived and now he wants to change things at the last minute.

  24. #290
    It is starting to go South now, Sean is wanting his demands to be met, and David is stating he is suicidal, will remain a freeman... Demanding their blue cell-phone be called. Krisanne trying to talk David down--David stating this was not his deal, he is being forced into it.
    The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding one’s self in the ranks of the insane.” — Marcus Aurelius

    They’re not buying it. CNN, you dumb bastards!” — President Trump 2020

    Consilio et Animis de Oppresso Liber

  25. #291
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Frikken David. They agreed to come out when Fiore and Franklin arrived and now he wants to change things at the last minute.
    He just said the other three knew he wasn't leaving.
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

    Dilige et quod vis fac. ~ Saint Augustine

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

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    where is the link?

  27. #293
    David wants to go out in a blaze of glory. This sucks !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    where is the link?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lAYQLD-ZuY

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    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    where is the link?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lAYQLD-ZuY

  30. #296
    He doesn't trust the situation and doesn't want to be imprisoned. Liberty or death, he says....
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

    Dilige et quod vis fac. ~ Saint Augustine

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!



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  32. #297
    If he gets himself killed, they will just label him a violent radical.

  33. #298
    He's not going to come out. I can tell, he is resolute. Where is Franklin Graham? Maybe he can walk out with him.

  34. #299
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    If he gets himself killed, they will just label him a violent radical.
    If he gets himself killed, huh?

    This forum is a joke.
    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
    Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump

  35. #300
    Quote Originally Posted by Dianne View Post
    He's not going to come out. I can tell, he is resolute. Where is Franklin Graham? Maybe he can walk out with him.
    I doubt the FBI would "put Franklin Graham in danger."

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