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  1. #151
    I can't believe they didn't let this yahoo negotiate the situation....

    Former refuge occupier hopes to help FBI negotiate with holdouts, has little luck

    Weeks ago, occupier Scott Willingham was pacing around the front gate of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, wearing a camouflage vest with ammunition, a skullcap and AR-15 rifle.

    On Tuesday, he was dressed in jeans, boots and a U.S. Fish & Wildlife T-shirt, sitting inside The Narrows, a café and RV park a few miles from the refuge, and waiting for the FBI.

    Willingham, 48, of Leadville, Colorado, is offering himself up as a mediator between the FBI and the last four people left at the refuge, 30 miles southeast of Burns.
    After about four hours waiting at The Narrows for the FBI to show up, Willingham said he was starting to feel demoralized because no agents had come to talk to him. Bearcats and black SUVS drove through the roadblock a few hundred feet from the café but no agents came in as he had hoped.

    "They're treating me like a (expletive) flea, man," he said.

    By the time the sun set, he decided to stay at the night at the RV camp and try to call the FBI in the morning.
    http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-sta...r_hopes_t.html



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  3. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    They got stuck there because everyone who tried to leave was arrested. They can't just leave. and won't voluntarily be caged.

    If the police would go away,, so would they.

    Catch 22
    The FBI could be more efficient if they just let them leave and then arrest them later while they are on the street.

    But of course the FBI probably wants to make a show of force so as to demonstrate to others what would happen if they tried the same thing.



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    Live Updates: Reports Of Oregon Standoff Escalating

    OPB News - ‎2 hours ago‎
    FBI officials said it has placed agents at barricades near the area where the militants are located. Negotiations continue between law enforcement and the occupiers, and no shots have been fired. Greg Bretzing, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI in ...





    FBI moves in on last four occupiers at Oregon wildlife refuge

    Yahoo News - ‎36 minutes ago‎
    (Reuters) - Federal agents on Wednesday closed in on the last four anti-government militants still holed up at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon after a 40-day-old armed occupation, the FBI said in a statement. The Federal Bureau of ...



    Malheur Refuge Occupation Day 40: 4 Things To Know

    OPB News - ‎9 hours ago‎
    The remaining four armed militants at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Harney County, Oregon, have been occupying the site on their own for at least two weeks. That's since the last week of January, when other occupiers were arrested outside the ...





    Oregon standoff Day 40: What you need to know Wednesday

    OregonLive.com - ‎15 hours ago‎
    Militant leader Robert "LaVoy" Finicum, armed, angry and facing arrest, shouted again and again to police who had stopped him outside Burns that he needed to go see "the sheriff." He felt only one man could protect him – Grant County Sheriff Glenn Palmer.



    Oregon standoff: FBI moves in on last refuge occupiers

    OregonLive.com - ‎2 hours ago‎
    BURNS – The FBI on Wednesday evening moved in on the last four occupiers at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, apparently placing armored vehicles around their camp. A friend of occupier David Fry was streaming on YouTube through an open phone ...





    Oregon standoff escalates as FBI surrounds Malheur wildlife refuge – live updates

    The Guardian - ‎1 hour ago‎
    The elder Banta said he had talked to his son “once or twice” since the standoff began but declined to provide details. “He just said, 'I'm all right,”' Willard Banta said. “I'm wondering if he is going to make it out. I'd like to see my son come home ...



    The FBI is moving in on the last 4 members of the Oregon 'militia'

    Business Insider - ‎1 hour ago‎
    Bundy and 10 others were arrested in January in Oregon, most of them during a confrontation with the Federal Bureau of Investigation and state police on a snow-covered roadside where a spokesman for the group, Robert "LaVoy" Finicum, was shot dead.





    FBI says it has surrounded last occupiers at Oregon refuge

    Fox17 - ‎1 hour ago‎
    BURNS, OR - JANUARY 06: A view of a building at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge Headquarters on January 6, 2016 near Burns, Oregon. An armed anti-government militia group continues to occupy the Malheur National Wildlife Headquarters as they ...





    With Bar Complaints Filed, Lawyers Explain Bundy Approach

    OPB News - ‎Feb 9, 2016‎
    “The purpose of this letter is to request a meeting with you to discuss whether the attorneys of Arnold Law may be of any assistance to you on a pro bono basis in finding a resolution to the situation in Harney County, Oregon,” the letter reportedly ...



    Key Events in the Occupation of the Oregon Wildlife Refuge

    ABC News - ‎44 minutes ago‎
    2, 2016: A protest takes place in Burns, Oregon, amid mounting tension over prison sentences for two local ranchers. Dwight Hammond, 73, and his son Steven Hammond, 46, said they lit fires on federal land to reduce the growth of invasive plants and ...



    LIVE: FBI Conducting Siege of Oregon Wildlife Refuge

    Truth In Media - ‎39 minutes ago‎
    This is a live stream from inside the Malheur Wildlife Refuge in Burns, Oregon. According to those on the phone, 28,000 people are listening. The FBI is reportedly refusing to talk to Nevada Assemblywoman Michele Fiore who is attempting to resolve this ...



    BREAKING NOW: FBI Moves In On Oregon Holdouts

    TRUNEWS - ‎55 minutes ago‎
    Federal agents on Wednesday evening have moved in on the last four anti-government protesters still holed up at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon. The remaining holdouts have offered to surrender themselves to Rev. Franklin Graham.





    FBI surrounds last Malheur National Wildlife Refuge occupiers

    kgw.com - ‎1 hour ago‎
    BURNS, Ore. -- The FBI surrounded the final occupiers at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Burns Wednesday night. At about 4:30 p.m., one of the occupiers rode an ATV outside the barricades established at the refuge, according to the FBI.





    Oregon Standoff Update: FBI Agents Reportedly Encircle Remaining Occupiers

    International Business Times - ‎1 hour ago‎
    The FBI reportedly encircled the four remaining occupiers at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Princeton, Oregon, on Wednesday night, the Oregonian reported on its website. Armored FBI vehicles were reportedly parked outside the camp, with agents ...





    FBI surrounds occupiers at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge

    Atlanta Journal Constitution - ‎1 hour ago‎
    The FBI began moving in on remaining occupants at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Burns, Oregon, Wednesday. The Oregonian reported that David Fry, 27, of Ohio, Jeff Banta of Elko, Nevada, and Sean and Sandy Anderson of Riggins, Idaho, are ...



    FBI Surrounds Remaining Protesters Occupying Oregon Refuge

    NBCNews.com - ‎1 hour ago‎
    The occupation of Malheur, in central Oregon near Burns, began Jan. 2. The Bundys were arrested Jan. 26 during what authorities have described as a "traffic stop." The protest's main spokesman, Robert LaVoy Finicum, 54, was killed during a ...





    Federal agents close in on four remaining militia occupants at Malheur Wildlife Refuge

    Las Vegas Review-Journal - ‎1 hour ago‎
    The four remaining occupants are broadcasting the events live on an audio feed on YouTube and are speaking to Nevada Assemblywoman Michele Fiore, who flew to Oregon on Wednesday before the events unfolded. This is a developing story, Check back ...





    Assemblywoman Michele Fiore on phone with Oregon occupiers as FBI moves in

    KTNV Las Vegas - ‎11 minutes ago‎
    Michele Fiore is on the phone with the occupiers as she tries to make her way to the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge near Burns, Oregon. She is currently trying to make her way to the refuge from the airport in Portland, which is more than 5 hours away.





    FBI moving in on last four occupiers at Oregon wildlife refuge

    StreetInsider.com - ‎1 hour ago‎
    FBI agents man the entry to the Burns Municipal Airport in Burns, Oregon January 30, 2016. REUTERS/Jim Urquhart. (Reuters) - Federal agents on Wednesday moved in on the last four anti-government militants still holed up at the Malheur National Wildlife ...





    FBI surrounds remaining occupiers at Oregon wildlife refuge

    WTVM - ‎1 hour ago‎
    BURNS, OR (KPTV) -. Forty days after the occupation of a rural Oregon wildlife refuge began, the FBI has surrounded the four remaining people who have refused to leave. The FBI reported that one of the occupiers rode an ATV outside the barricades ...





    FBI Moves on Oregon Militia to End Standoff, Talks Underway

    teleSUR English - ‎8 minutes ago‎
    The United States Federal Bureau of Investigation moved in to end the Oregon standoff as federal forces surrounded the last four occupiers at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, local newspapers reported Wednesday night. The latest development comes ...



    LISTEN LIVE: FBI Moving in on Oregon Militia Standoff

    Heavy.com - ‎2 hours ago‎
    According to this livestream, FBI agents are moving in on the Oregon militia in the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. The Oregonian reports that the live broadcast is coming from friend of occupier David Fry, 27, from Ohio, named Gavin Seam. A member ...



    FBI closes in on last Oregon refuge occupiers

    Washington Post - ‎1 hour ago‎
    A neighbor who lives near the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, 30 miles south of Burns, Ore., told The Washington Post that residents have been told to stay in their homes until the police give clearance. Greg Bretzing, Special Agent in Charge of the ...





    4 Oregon refuge occupiers continue standoff with FBI, post videos

    St George News - ‎1 hour ago‎
    This Jan. 30, 2016 file photo shows Tony Atencio of Burns, Oregon, holds a photo of rancher Robert "LaVoy" Finicum at a rally against in Burns, Ore. The funeral for Finicum, killed by law enforcement during the armed occupation of an Oregon wildlife ...





    FBI Surrounds Protesters Occupying Oregon Refuge

    NBC Chicago - ‎1 hour ago‎
    A mop and sign are taped to a sign for the occupied Malheur National Wildlife Refuge near Burns, Oregon, on January 29, 2016. FBI agents have converged on the Oregon wildlife refuge where the last four followers of Ammon and Ryan Bundy remain holed ...



    The last few occupiers of an Oregon wildlife refuge say they have been surrounded by authorities

    Daily Journal - ‎1 hour ago‎
    BURNS, Oregon — The FBI says it has moved to contain the last few occupiers of an Oregon wildlife refuge. In a statement Wednesday evening, authorities said they placed agents at barricades both immediately ahead of and behind the area where the ...





    Former refuge occupier hopes to help FBI negotiate with holdouts, has little luck

    OregonLive.com - ‎Feb 9, 2016‎
    He had left the refuge a week and a half ago when the occupation leaders were arrested and protest spokesman Robert "LaVoy" Finicum was killed during a confrontation with state police and the FBI at a roadblock on U.S. 395 between Burns and John Day ...





    Grant County Residents Speak Out Against Refuge Occupation

    OPB News - ‎4 hours ago‎
    Most residents who came to the commission meeting supported the resolution and expressed concern that Grant County could be the next host, or target, for radical efforts from so-called militias — such as an occupation or other potential illegal activity.



    FBI agents surround last few occupiers at Oregon wildlife refuge

    Q13 FOX - ‎1 hour ago‎
    ... area,” said Greg Bretzing, Special Agent in Charge of the FBI in Oregon. Wednesday marks day 40 of the occupation of the refuge. The four remained despite the arrests of group leader Ammon Bundy and others Jan. 26 on a remote road outside the refuge.



    FBI surrounds refuge occupiers

    KTVB - ‎1 hour ago‎
    BURNS, Ore. - The FBI said Wednesday that they have "moved to contain" the last remaining occupiers at an Oregon wildlife refuge that was taken over during a land-rights protest last month. "The FBI has moved to contain the remaining occupiers by ...

    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

    Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation

    'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3

    Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.

    ...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
    ...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...


  6. #154
    Bingo
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    They got stuck there because everyone who tried to leave was arrested. They can't just leave. and won't voluntarily be caged.

    If the police would go away,, so would they.

    Catch 22

  7. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah K View Post
    Who's the 4th person?
    Jeff Banta, 46, of Elko, Nevada

    Banta is a construction worker. The Associated Press reported he is a divorced father of two, lived most of his life in Yerington, Nev., graduated from the local high school and worked in construction before he moved about five years ago to Elko in northeast Nevada.

    His father told The Associated Press that the younger Banta may have learned his distrust of the U.S. government from him growing up hunting and fishing in the wide-open spaces of rural northern Nevada.
    http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-sta...cart_big-photo

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    peaked at 67500, now down to 61841

    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

    Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation

    'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3

    Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.

    ...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
    ...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...


  9. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by presence View Post
    peaked at 67500, now down to 61841
    People on the east coast are probably going to bed.

  10. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    The FBI could be more efficient if they just let them leave and then arrest them later while they are on the street.

    But of course the FBI probably wants to make a show of force so as to demonstrate to others what would happen if they tried the same thing.
    They're probably keeping track of the mood in the public over this as well.
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

    Dilige et quod vis fac. ~ Saint Augustine

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

  11. #159
    Where is Rand Paul at? Why isn't he out there with an armored vehicle intervening?
    "Sorry, fellows, the rebellion is off. We couldn't get a rebellion permit."

  12. #160
    His father told The Associated Press that the younger Banta may have learned his distrust of the U.S. government from him growing up hunting and fishing in the wide-open spaces of rural northern Nevada.
    That is precisely why Boobus wants the fedgov to closely regulate everything that happens on government land.

    Unregulated hunting and fishing is a gateway to terrorism.



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  14. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by idiom View Post
    Best way out for them is a $#@! load of unarmed people show up and breach the roadblock and walk out with them.
    and a pardon.
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

    Dilige et quod vis fac. ~ Saint Augustine

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

  15. #162
    David Fry, a 27-year-old Ohio resident who has posted "#Pray4ISIS" to his Google page, is among those involved in the militant standoff at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Burns., January 10, 2016, near Burns, Oregon. Thomas Boyd/Staff
    wtf?
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

    Dilige et quod vis fac. ~ Saint Augustine

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

  16. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah K View Post
    wtf?
    Sounds like somebody is trying to demonize him.

  17. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah K View Post
    wtf?
    Aren't ya supposed to pray for your enemies or something? I admit, I'm not much of a religious person.

  18. #165



    I believe this is Jeff Banta of Nevada

    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

    Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation

    'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3

    Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.

    ...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
    ...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...


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    Wa wa wa wa. The world is unfair and your fellow human being is selfish pig. Sean, you just realized that now?

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    Victoria Sharp is on the line.
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

    Dilige et quod vis fac. ~ Saint Augustine

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

  21. #168
    So how many people will be listening at 8:00am tomorrow morning?



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  23. #169
    they are not even at the refuge ? but on public land ,,,,,all this

  24. #170
    What's everyone listening to?

  25. #171
    Quote Originally Posted by J.Michael View Post
    What's everyone listening to?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOlrSain0lk

  26. #172
    The last 4 hold outs at the refuge.
    Diversity finds unity in the message of freedom.

    Dilige et quod vis fac. ~ Saint Augustine

    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Above all I think everyone needs to understand that neither the Bundys nor Finicum were militia or had prior military training. They were, first and foremost, Ranchers who had about all the shit they could take.
    Quote Originally Posted by HOLLYWOOD View Post
    If anything, this situation has proved the government is nothing but a dictatorship backed by deadly force... no different than the dictatorships in the banana republics, just more polished and cleverly propagandized.
    "I'll believe in good cops when they start turning bad cops in."

    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    In a free society there will be bigotry, and racism, and sexism and religious disputes and, and, and.......
    I don't want to live in a cookie cutter, federally mandated society.
    Give me messy freedom every time!

  27. #173
    Okay. Thanks. I got it now.

  28. #174
    Assemblywoman Michelle Fiore





    More: https://www.google.com/search?q=mich...der&gws_rd=ssl






    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

    Awareness is the Root of Liberation Revolution is Action upon Revelation

    'Resistance and Disobedience in Economic Activity is the Most Moral Human Action Possible' - SEK3

    Flectere si nequeo superos, Acheronta movebo.

    ...the familiar ritual of institutional self-absolution...
    ...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...


  29. #175
    Quote Originally Posted by Tod View Post
    Where is Rand Paul at? Why isn't he out there with an armored vehicle intervening?
    If Rand was there driving up in a bulldozer, drove out with them peacefully, that's it. He would be elected in a heartbeat.
    In New Zealand:
    The Coastguard is a Charity
    Air Traffic Control is a private company run on user fees
    The DMV is a private non-profit
    Rescue helicopters and ambulances are operated by charities and are plastered with corporate logos
    The agriculture industry has zero subsidies
    5% of the national vote, gets you 5 seats in Parliament
    A tax return has 4 fields
    Business licenses aren't a thing
    Prostitution is legal
    We have a constitutional right to refuse any type of medical care

  30. #176
    There is an awful lot of hate in those comments. People, it is no longer 3GW, it is now 4GW.



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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    There is an awful lot of hate in those comments. People, it is no longer 3GW, it is now 4GW.
    Yes, but many bystanders who like to stand on the shoulders of Uncle Sugar. The real issue is the miscreants who think that their fed buddies are omnipotent. I feel sorry for them. I'm not saying that anybody wins in all this, but it won't be onesided.
    Last edited by AuH20; 02-10-2016 at 11:02 PM.

  33. #178
    The FBI are listening to the live stream. Whenever one of them on the live stream calls for thousands of people to show up in protest, the FBI guy tells them on the bullhorn, "nobody's coming, they all left you behind".
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  34. #179
    I guess they are planning to turn themselves in tomorrow with government preacher Graham getting the photo op.

    He could be the GOP nominee for president if they get a picture of him praying for them face down on the ground with his boot on their necks.

    Romans 13 style.

  35. #180
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    The FBI are listening to the live stream. Whenever one of them on the live stream calls for thousands of people to show up in protest, the FBI guy tells them on the bullhorn, "nobody's coming, they all left you behind".
    Well he aint wrong.
    In New Zealand:
    The Coastguard is a Charity
    Air Traffic Control is a private company run on user fees
    The DMV is a private non-profit
    Rescue helicopters and ambulances are operated by charities and are plastered with corporate logos
    The agriculture industry has zero subsidies
    5% of the national vote, gets you 5 seats in Parliament
    A tax return has 4 fields
    Business licenses aren't a thing
    Prostitution is legal
    We have a constitutional right to refuse any type of medical care

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