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    Bernie Sanders is not nearly as progressive as you think he is

    Bernie Sanders is not nearly as progressive as you think he is
    By Bonnie Kristian - February 9, 2016

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    Indeed, measured against Clinton, Sanders is right to claim the mantle of progressivism. The former secretary of state is (and should be) dogged by her close and profitable ties to Wall Street and big business, and her foreign policy is consistently hawkish in a style Dick Cheney would admire.

    But evaluated on the basis of his own lengthy record, Sanders is not as progressive as he makes himself out to be on at least three big issues: guns, criminal justice reform, and — despite the Iraq vote — foreign policy.
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    ...there's criminal justice reform, an issue which has netted Sanders the endorsement of several well-known figures in the Black Lives Matter movement. Speaking in New Hampshire the same day as the subtweets, Sanders vowed, "There will be no president who will fight harder to end institutional racism" than he will.

    "We have got to reform a very, very broken criminal justice system," he added. "It breaks my heart, and I know it breaks the hearts of millions of people in this country, to see videos on television of unarmed people, often African-Americans, shot by police. That has got to end."

    The rhetoric is right. But Sanders' record says otherwise.

    For instance, Sanders sounded a similar note back in April 1994, decrying America's ballooning prison population and its ties to poverty. But just one week later, he voted to pass the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, a centerpiece of Bill Clinton's "tough on crime" shtick, which, among other things, mandated a life sentence for anyone convicted of three drug crimes; expanded the list of death penalty crimes; lowered the age at which a juvenile could be tried as an adult to just 13; and appropriated billions to expand the prison system and hire 100,000 new police officers.

    That's the biggest blot on Sanders' criminal justice record, but it's not the only one. In 1995, he voted against a measure which would have prohibited police acquisition of tanks and armored vehicles like those he critiqued in Ferguson.
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    Finally, foreign policy. Sanders regularly touts his vote against invading Iraq in 2003, and that is unquestionably to his credit. But then there's the rest of his record on matters of war and peace, which figures heavily into the wariness many actual socialists maintain toward Sanders' campaign.

    As Stephen M. Walt writes at Foreign Policy, Sanders is hardly "a reflexive dove." He intends to retain President Obama's drone program if elected. He voted in favor of Clinton's pet intervention in Libya, in favor of the interminable war in Afghanistan, and even in favor of multiple funding measures to maintain the war in Iraq — a repeated "yes" to bankrolling the very conflict he so often boasts of opposing.

    Sanders also speaks enthusiastically of coalition-based wars.
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    More: http://theweek.com/articles/603044/b...gressive-think
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    15 years is a lifetime in politics, and everyone, including Ron Paul, voted for the AUMF in Afghanistan. Sanders was part of just 15% of Congress that voted against the Patriot Act in 2001. Talking about votes from 30 years ago is a waste of time, he's running against Hillary Clinton ffs.

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    "Progressive" is just a fancy word for "filthy statist authoritarian $#@!" these days, anyway. So, in that context, he's absolutely as progressive as I think him to be.

    But yeah, if you actually bother to look at his voting record, he's nothing special at all. He's just another filthy statist authoritarian $#@!--a dime a dozen.
    Radical in the sense of being in total, root-and-branch opposition to the existing political system and to the State itself. Radical in the sense of having integrated intellectual opposition to the State with a gut hatred of its pervasive and organized system of crime and injustice. Radical in the sense of a deep commitment to the spirit of liberty and anti-statism that integrates reason and emotion, heart and soul. - M. Rothbard

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    Yeah Hitler was perceived as a progressive at first.



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