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    Another Fatal Shooting Highlights Poor Police Handling of Mental Health Crises

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    Another Fatal Shooting Highlights Poor Police Handling of Mental Health Crises
    Viral video star shot to death in Arizona when police respond to suicide attempt.
    https://reason.com/blog/2016/02/08/a...hlights-poor-p

    This weekend saw yet another lesson showing why Americans often don't—and often shouldn't—call 911 to deal with a mental health crisis. A young transgender man with Asperger's Syndrome (a form of autism) was a brief viral hit over the summer over a video show how his emotional support dog assisted him when he was having a meltdown and hurting himself.

    The man, Kayden Clarke, 24, (referred to in some stories as Danielle Jacobs—Clarke had just recently begun his transition apparently) is now dead, shot by police who been called to his home in Mesa, Arizona, by people who were concerned about a possible suicide attempt. He had apparently sent out some emails asking for somebody to take care of Clarke's dog should something happen to him.

    According to police, a team of officers showed up to Clarke's place, where they found him threatening to harm himself with a knife. According to police, Clarke approached an officer with a knife and "extended it out." The officers "felt threatened" and opened fire, killing him.

    The police officers were not wearing body cameras, so we have no way of determining whether or not the officers' perception of Clark's behavior was accurate. According to police, one officer went to get a beanbag gun while another officer attempted to de-escalate the situation. But obviously that didn't happen.

    Worthy of note: Only a fifth of Mesa police have completed crisis intervention training to learn how to de-escalate situations with mentally ill or otherwise disabled individuals. But also of note: one of the officers on the scene had completed this training, according to the Phoenix New Times.

    The police said they were not aware of Clarke's mental health history, though apparently police were called to the home for a similar possible suicide attempt two years ago. A police spokesman said, "All we knew is that [Clarke] was trying to commit suicide."

    It's important to think about incidents like this whenever an obviously mentally ill person causes harm to others and people ask, "Why didn't anybody do anything about his behavior before?" In addition to the fact that there's no real reliable way to predict whether a generally non-violent person with mental health issues is an actual threat to others, we keep seeing situations where people call 911 to assist in a crisis, and this is what happens. This is far from the first time Reason has made note of how police responses to fears of suicide ended in violence or death, and it probably won't be the last. The police are training citizens not to call for help in an emergency related to mental health issues. Certainly several residents in Mesa have just learned this lesson.
    Based on the idea of natural rights, government secures those rights to the individual by strictly negative intervention, making justice costless and easy of access; and beyond that it does not go. The State, on the other hand, both in its genesis and by its primary intention, is purely anti-social. It is not based on the idea of natural rights, but on the idea that the individual has no rights except those that the State may provisionally grant him. It has always made justice costly and difficult of access, and has invariably held itself above justice and common morality whenever it could advantage itself by so doing.
    --Albert J. Nock



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    Served and protected.

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    The police are training citizens not to call for help in an emergency


    'We endorse the idea of voluntarism; self-responsibility: Family, friends, and churches to solve problems, rather than saying that some monolithic government is going to make you take care of yourself and be a better person. It's a preposterous notion: It never worked, it never will. The government can't make you a better person; it can't make you follow good habits.' - Ron Paul 1988

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    ...for protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment...


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    Worthy of note: Only a fifth of Mesa police have completed crisis intervention training to learn how to de-escalate situations with mentally ill or otherwise disabled individuals.
    I am SURE that officers are trained to "de-escalate" situations with the non-mentally ill.

    All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
    -Albert Camus

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    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/vid...led-by-police/

    Family is suing.

    Raises another question: why is this transgender "transitioning" nonsense being applied to people obviously suffering from numerous mental health issues?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/vid...led-by-police/

    Family is suing.

    Raises another question: why is this transgender "transitioning" nonsense being applied to people obviously suffering from numerous mental health issues?
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    We heard you were about to kill your self, but that's illegal, so we'll just bust in and shoot you dead. Murikans cheer.
    http://glenbradley.net/share/aleksan...nitsyn_4-t.gif “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Served and protected.
    Quitcher bitchin'. They de-escalated the hell out of the situation. Permanently. Which is what they have been trained for.



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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnyFreedom View Post
    We heard you were about to kill your self, but that's illegal, so we'll just bust in and shoot you dead. Murikans cheer.
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Quitcher bitchin'. They de-escalated the hell out of the situation. Permanently. Which is what they have been trained for.
    Hostile neutralized.



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