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    What happened to FED capitals account in the beginning of 2016

    In the beginning of 2016, there was a $19.3 billions drop in Federal Reserve capitals account, as illustrated in this chart:



    It befuddled some commentators, including Mike Maloney in his recent video in which he resorts to his usual tone of a conspiracy may have been covered up:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdYipMc5U1o


    But it turns out, the operation was largely public but may have been under reported, according to an article from Los Angles Times: Federal Reserve sends record $97.7-billion profit to Treasury.
    Nevertheless, it does raise the concern that such operation could “sets a bad precedent and impinges on the independence of the central bank.”


    Read more at: http://rothbardiangoldprice.com/2016...nning-of-2016/



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    The change was a small decline in "excess reserves" held by banks. No "secret operation" by the Fed. https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/EXCSRESNS

    And FED redistribute its profit to its shareholders 4) and the Treasury.
    "Shareholders" don't get any piece of Fed revenues. What they do get paid is a six percent dividend on the shares they were required to purchase to join the Federal Reserve system. Those shares were ten percent of the bank's total assets and cannot be sold or traded and have not voting powers. The Fed does turn its profits over to the US Treasury- giving them back all of the interest the government paid on the Fed held securities plus (they also collect fees for services they provide to member banks).

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    See this thread for some of the gory details: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...to-Rob-the-Fed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    See this thread for some of the gory details: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...to-Rob-the-Fed
    That was actually Congress "funding" a program by not really providing any new funding for it. Smoke and mirrors. They were going to "borrow" money they were already getting from the Fed (and already spending on other things) to pay for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    That was actually Congress "funding" a program by not really providing any new funding for it. Smoke and mirrors. They were going to "borrow" money they were already getting from the Fed (and already spending on other things) to pay for it.
    you sure have a lot of insider info.

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    The US treasury gets the money (the Fed's profits after expenses) at the end of every year. "Borrowing" some of that to pay for the highway bill is not creating any new money like say a surcharge or tax would. It is pretending they are getting more money. If they are actually intending to fund the program for real, they need some additional source of revenue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    See this thread for some of the gory details: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...to-Rob-the-Fed
    That was actually Congress "funding" a program by not really providing any new funding for it. Smoke and mirrors. They were going to "borrow" money they were already getting from the Fed (and already spending on other things) to pay for it.
    Yes, I know - and the $19.3 billion reduction in Fed capital referenced in the OP is part of that "smoke and mirrors," as discussed in the article I linked:

    [...] The House version of the bill, instead of diverting dividends, proposed employing this surplus capital, which today amounts to $29.3 billion, to cover new expenditures on highways and transit. [...] The compromise version of the bill that passed both houses caps the Fed’s surplus capital at $10 billion, with the remaining being passed to the Treasury [...]

    With no actual money in the surplus capital account to begin with, the Fed can only reduce the account in one of three possible ways. The most straightforward would be for the Fed to create $19.3 billion of new base money for the Treasury to spend. In the first year, surplus capital would be run down to $10 billion, with $19.3 billion of Fed deposits and currency on the same side of the balance sheet ultimately replacing this fall in capital.[5] The total on each side of the balance sheet would remain unchanged. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that future increases in the capital of member banks will require the Fed to continue funneling between $2 and $3 billion of “surplus capital” per year to the Treasury. Because this method increases the money supply and is mildly inflationary, the Fed will more likely sterilize the transfer in two other ways discussed by Ben Bernanke in a blog post criticizing the House plan.

    One of these alternatives would involve the Fed immediately selling off $19.3 billion of Treasury securities and transferring the proceeds from those sales to the Treasury. This would reduce the Fed’s total balance sheet on both sides by the same amount, but keep the monetary base roughly unchanged, sterilizing the transfer. But since the Treasury securities sold are now owned by the general public rather than the Fed, the Treasury no longer receives Fed remittances for the interest paid on this portion of its debt. What the Treasury has gained in one lump sum it now looses in the form of future income from the Fed, with the present value of both approximately the same. In short, with no new revenue or increased taxation, the Treasury’s new transportation expenditures will merely increase government deficits.

    The Fed could instead cover its payment of $19.3 billion to the Treasury by directly reducing its regular Treasury remittances. In effect, the Fed would still only be giving back to the Treasury what it has first received from the Treasury in the form of interest payments. Again, the Treasury will lose approximately as much as it gains. Recall that in 2014, total Fed remittances to the Treasury came to $97 billion. So all the Fed would have to do is reclassify $19.3 billion of its future excess earnings as a payment from the surplus capital. To simultaneously reduce the surplus account to $10 billion without selling off any assets, all the Fed needs to do is move $19.3 billion into “other liabilities and accrued dividends.” Ceteris paribus, the balance sheet totals and the monetary base remains unchanged. The additional highway spending will still increase current and future budget deficits.

    The Fed will probably use some judicious mix of all three methods to comply with the new requirement. [...]
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 02-07-2016 at 11:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    The US treasury gets the money (the Fed's profits after expenses) at the end of every year. "Borrowing" some of that to pay for the highway bill is not creating any new money like say a surcharge or tax would. It is pretending they are getting more money. If they are actually intending to fund the program for real, they need some additional source of revenue.
    and you know this why?



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