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Thread: It appears that 50% of the people on this forum were Cruz supporters....

  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by wmmonk View Post
    This thread is interesting, because if you look at RPF's busiest day on the site it wasn't around when Rand announced or dropped out, or when Ron announced or dropped out. It was the day after Cruz announced he was running.
    Good catch. It's been apparent to frequent visitors that RPF ain't what it used to be.
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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by ProBlue33 View Post

    I think the supporters of Ron Paul have been made apathetic again, I mean how many times can a person get burned by the process before they give up.
    As an 07 er said they won't even be voting and they gave up on a corrupt political process, the 2012 primary was such a shame and humiliation right into the GOP convention that it could make anybody say %^&* it.
    ^^This, for me anyway. As for the new account, I have no idea about my past login info, it was lost long ago. I was starting to get back into things when Rand suspended unfortunately.



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  5. #33
    Someone not believing that everyone outside the Paul family should be called vulgar names and degraded constantly does not make that someone a "troll."

  6. #34
    Waiting to see who the Constitution party comes up with. Ron?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Edward Snowden for prez.........
    Actually. Can you run for President while in jail for defending the constitution against domestic enemies?

    He would be the most qualified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by idiom View Post
    Actually. Can you run for President while in jail for defending the constitution against domestic enemies?
    I don't see why not ...

    Eugene Debs ran for president while he was in jail. He was convicted under the 1918 Sedition Act for opposing the draft during World War One.

    He was a socialist, but I guess you could say he was defending the Constitution (at least the part about free speech) against "domestic enemies" (such as Woodrow Wilson) ...

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    stop paranoia ,self destroyer, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRpAANsoG8I
    2016 gop est business as usual, rules do not apply.

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by squirl22 View Post
    Considering the comments and drop in readership, it appears that at least 50% of the posters here were actually Cruz trolls and another 25% were Bernie or Dem trolls. This explains the popularity of the negative threads...too bad there was no way to weed these people out. I came here as a Rand supporter and it was a shock to read all of the negative comments written by people who were supposedly supporters. Now, I know that they never were. Too bad it too Rand dropping out to discover this.
    I would at least like to hope after seeing just how dirty Ted Cruz is they changed their mind. But I'm not holding my breath. Sadly most cannot admit when they're wrong, human nature I suppose.

  11. #39
    I want to make the record straight that I was a 100% anti-Empire troll. I'm surprised I have a positive rep. I must have grown on you! If the liberty message is watered down to the point of Cruz being viable then what is the point? Why not just be a Dondero neolibertarian and join hands with the Neocons and Christian Zionist? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-libertarianism

  12. #40
    I don't see 50% of the people in here voting for Cruz in that recent RPF poll. Maybe 15% and some of them might have had Cruz as their second choice, hence minimal support on RPF.

    So I don't believe the OP thread.

    I don't support Cruz but at the same time he's not as bad as some of you make him out to believe.



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by redmed View Post
    Waiting to see who the Constitution party comes up with. Ron?
    I like that idea.

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    I suspect that some of the other newbies may be similar to myself. I was not (and still am not) a true libertarian and I didn't support Ron in 08 or 12, but I have been a Rand supporter this cycle. (Yes, Cruz has been my second choice all along, but it's always been a distant second and only because he'd pick good judges.) IOW, I'm new not because I secretly want to troll Ron Paul fans, but because there wasn't a reason to sign up until Rand came along.

    And it makes sense to me that readership is down. If you're a Republican who had Rand at the top of your list, but not the only name on your list, then you might migrate to a Cruz or Trump or whatever forum now that Paul's out.

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Liberty74 View Post
    I don't see 50% of the people in here voting for Cruz in that recent RPF poll. Maybe 15% and some of them might have had Cruz as their second choice, hence minimal support on RPF.

    So I don't believe the OP thread.

    I don't support Cruz but at the same time he's not as bad as some of you make him out to believe.
    Come on, you're spoiling the OP hypothesis.
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    I'm here because I hold Ron Paul and what he did in 2008 and 2012 dear to my heart. Rand was good, couldn't get as excited for him as I could his dad tho.

    With Rand out, IDGAF about elections. Won't waste my time going to the polls. If I do it will be so I can write Ron Paul in (again.)

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Actually, what it was was that he didn't pass the purity test for some around here. They are looking for the 2nd coming of Ron Paul.
    Yeah, that's right.

    Ron is the man who brought many of us here. Most of us, I would think. I can't speak for anyone else, but I merely tolerated Rand...he was much better than anyone else running, but he was no Ron.

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by cajuncocoa View Post
    Yeah, that's right.

    Ron is the man who brought many of us here. Most of us, I would think. I can't speak for anyone else, but I merely tolerated Rand...he was much better than anyone else running, but he was no Ron.
    I remember you accused me of being a cruz supporter. I guess I can understand that there were some undercover cruz people, but all I ever did was trash cruz. I will keep doing that too.

    I actually preferred Rand slightly to Ron. I am not a doctrinaire libertarian, but rather, I see an opportunity for a pragmatic libertarianism which uses federalism and a privatized focus on morality to sort of bridge all the gaps of our stratified political system. But in order to get there, we are going to need a more polished candidate to hit that tipping point. Rand was not personable. My wife actually had dinner with Rand and Ron and a couple other surprising figures last year at a political function (not campaign related)....said she really likes the Pauls, but the wives are the ones who have the gift of gab. Is Rand a leader? Yes, intellectually he is brilliant. He is a great man. But I have to say, I kinda know how he feels, seeing an opportunity, but being unable to muster the words to make other people see it the same way.

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by wmmonk View Post
    This thread is interesting, because if you look at RPF's busiest day on the site it wasn't around when Rand announced or dropped out, or when Ron announced or dropped out. It was the day after Cruz announced he was running.
    ah yes I remember that day, It was a bot attack with a group cycling thru IP addresses off a proxy (I was a mod at the time and could see this) and only viewing the forum index, always wondered what that was about, guess we know now

  21. #48

    Not at all

    Quote Originally Posted by squirl22 View Post
    Considering the comments and drop in readership, it appears that at least 50% of the posters here were actually Cruz trolls and another 25% were Bernie or Dem trolls. This explains the popularity of the negative threads...too bad there was no way to weed these people out. I came here as a Rand supporter and it was a shock to read all of the negative comments written by people who were supposedly supporters. Now, I know that they never were. Too bad it too Rand dropping out to discover this.

    No thats not it at all, when a campaign is going people want to know all that is going on, when it ends, they come back every so often. I'm no Cruz supporter, but when Rand was running I was here every 30 min, now I'm here a couple times a day.



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Luieburger View Post
    It doesn't help that some of us who are sympathetic to Cruz's cause got banned...

    The writing was on the wall long ago. Several of us went to Cruz for one purpose. To stop Trump. I feel like there are a lot of Cruz people in the liberty movement who still like Rand, and I would be careful about alienating them. There are many elections after 2016 that we need to win together.
    Have people really gotten banned from saying they like Cruz the best out of the remaining candidates? Ironic how the liberty movement is about free speech, but on these forums we sometimes suppress anyone who disagrees with what the majority spam constantly. Banning someone for having Cruz as a #2 choice is no different than Fox News suppressing Rand Paul by refusing to have any Libertarians on their panels.

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