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    Ron Paul: Ted Cruz is no libertarian

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...#ixzz3zKgUiFsI

    . “You take a guy like Cruz, people are liking the Cruz — they think he’s for the free market, and [in reality] he’s owned by Goldman Sachs. I mean, he and Hillary have more in common than we would have with either Cruz or Trump or any of them so I just don’t think there is much picking,” Paul said of the Texas senator on Fox Business’ “Varney & Company" on Friday.

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    He's not a libertarian? Good. Wouldnt want him running around naked smoking pot, anyway.
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    Ron Paul: "Ted Cruz Owned by Goldman Sachs"



    You take a guy like Cruz, people are liking the Cruz — they think he’s for the free market, and [in reality] he’s owned by Goldman Sachs. I mean, he and Hillary have more in common than we would have with either Cruz or Trump or any of them so I just don’t think there is much picking,” Paul said of the Texas senator on Fox Business’ “Varney & Company" on Friday.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...rtarian-218822
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    Ater seing all the Cruzbots coming on here lying about what a great guy Cruz would be to vote for, I think this analysis from Ron Paul says all we need to know.

    Cruz is completely unelectable. regardless of who you vote for, it shouldnt be Cruz. Hes guaranteed to be another 4 years of bought and paid for federal reserve shillary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chester Copperpot View Post


    You take a guy like Cruz, people are liking the Cruz — they think he’s for the free market, and [in reality] he’s owned by Goldman Sachs. I mean, he and Hillary have more in common than we would have with either Cruz or Trump or any of them so I just don’t think there is much picking,” Paul said of the Texas senator on Fox Business’ “Varney & Company" on Friday.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...rtarian-218822
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    Ater seing all the Cruzbots coming on here lying about what a great guy Cruz would be to vote for, I think this analysis from Ron Paul says all we need to know.

    Cruz is completely unelectable. regardless of who you vote for, it shouldnt be Cruz. Hes guaranteed to be another 4 years of bought and paid for federal reserve shillary.
    Wish he had come out with these statements before the Iowa caucus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianne View Post
    Wish he had come out with these statements before the Iowa caucus.
    It wouldn't have mattered because Cruz's Iowan supporters were so inundated with his Christian/Israel rhetoric, they wouldn't have cared less about his financial establishment connections (not to mention that most of his supporters don't understand the political/economic implications on Cruz for having those kind of donors, especially as it relates to his positions about the Federal Reserve).
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    Surprisingly, the elder Paul seemed more attracted to the views of Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, who is giving Hillary Clinton a run for her money in the Democratic primary.

    “On occasion, Bernie comes up with libertarian views when he talks about taking away the cronyism on Wall Street, so in essence he’s right, and occasionally he voted against war,” the former Texas congressman said when asked if there was a candidate who was truly for the free market.

    "It's hard to find anybody -- since Rand is out of it -- anybody that would take a libertarian position, hardcore libertarian position on privacy, on the war issue and on economic policy," Paul added.

    “So I always say: You can search for a long time, but you’re not gonna find anybody in the Republican or Democratic primary that even comes slightly close to ever being able to claim themselves a libertarian,” he concluded.

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...#ixzz3zPY9En00
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    He's not a libertarian? Good. Wouldnt want him running around naked smoking pot, anyway.
    No one wants to think about that!!



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    Heidi Cruz is just another payroll


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    Yes, banks are still hiring ‘princelings’ in China

    by Thomas Zhang 6 November 2015



    connections bring in profit

    If nepotism exists anywhere in investment banking, it surely exists in China. Take J.P. Morgan’s recruitment of 25 year-old Joe Gao, son of the country’s Commerce Minister, or the appointment of Levin Zhu, son of the former Chinese premier, as CEO of CICC.

    However, both Gao and Zhu were appointed several years ago (in 2007 and 1999 respectively). After being called out for hiring the sons and daughters of Chinese officials (fuerdai or guanerdai in Mandarin), banks in the country are supposed to have cleaned up their acts. Have they?

    Not exactly, say recruiters. “Hiring of fuerdai still happens all the time, but it’s not talked about in public now,” says Lesley Li, founder of Shanghai-based Matrix Search, an executive search firm. “People just chat about it over dinner or drinks.”

    Although banks are still hiring fuerdai, recruiters say banks are hiring them because they’re strong candidates, not simply because of their family connections. In 2007, J.P. Morgan hired Joe Gao even though he was deemed one of the worst candidates the bank had ever seen and despite deeming him,

    ‘immature, irresponsible and unreliable.”
    ...but connected
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    Kind of surprised Amash would believe this. He's suggesting that Cruz has said things that make him less bad than Rubio.

    But why would anyone believe what the liar Cruz has said? Particularly considering that he said it while trying to discredit Rand Paul and attract his supporters?

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    hi cajun, dont you love Ron telling the truth? I've been saying he is owned by Goldman's for months. His campaign took a loan out with them and his wife is an executive there.

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    The very first thing I ever learned from Ron Paul........ "follow the money".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    Kind of surprised Amash would believe this. He's suggesting that Cruz has said things that make him less bad than Rubio.

    But why would anyone believe what the liar Cruz has said? Particularly considering that he said it while trying to discredit Rand Paul and attract his supporters?
    Not surprising at all. Rubio is the worst, hard-core, budget busting, globalist, reckless interventionist, neoconservative MIC puppet in the race.
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    Isn't this kind of disingenuous? Ron endorsed Cruz for senate, now he is badmouthing him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord View Post
    hi cajun, dont you love Ron telling the truth? I've been saying he is owned by Goldman's for months. His campaign took a loan out with them and his wife is an executive there.
    You calling me out for a reason? Of course I love this...I dislike Cruz, and I always have! And I'm aware you've been saying this for months; I've never doubted you.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Isn't this kind of disingenuous? Ron endorsed Cruz for senate, now he is badmouthing him?
    The alternative in that race was the CIA agent Dewhurst. Of course Ron endorsed Ted then. But now it's very different

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Isn't this kind of disingenuous? Ron endorsed Cruz for senate, now he is badmouthing him?
    If you were retiring and you spent 30 years trying to get the fed audited and get the united states to stop supporting fiat currency, and someone ran for senate in your state saying that he also wanted to do that and that he had the same values as you, wouldn't you endorse him?

    Now say that he gets elected, and he doesn't do his job, he doesn't vote for audit the fed. Do you endorse him to be president, do you think he is going to do what he says he is going to do or do you think he is owned by the very banks that finance him so they keep getting special favors from the federal reserve.

    I don't see it as petty, but I see Ron Paul as a "single issue" voter. He would vote for any candidate over Ted Cruz, because Ted Cruz is financed by the corrupt people that exploit our financial system and take advantage of the poorest people. Ted Cruz was designed to fool us into voting for him, I bet he is even going to be on the neocon ticket, I got all this money i was saving to put into Rands campaign though so that would be a bet I would be happy to make with any of you.

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    Cruz fooled nobody. Follow the money as Ron Paul has educated to. It was obvious from the off where his loyalties lay

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    Chester Copperpot
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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Isn't this kind of disingenuous? Ron endorsed Cruz for senate, now he is badmouthing him?
    people only found out about his goldman sachs loans a few weeks ago.. back in 2012 nobody knew $#@! about them

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Isn't this kind of disingenuous? Ron endorsed Cruz for senate, now he is badmouthing him?
    Clearly he has new information, as do all of us.. information that we have been telling you about him for months now. The question is, why haven't you changed your mind??

    I think he liked the idea of having someone in the senate who could help support Rand on a few things, but he has done little in that area and been a bit of a disappointment even on areas where they agree.. Then there is the atrocious foreign policy.
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    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikcers View Post

    7:00 -


    If you listen Ted's on the neocon list.
    That speaks volumes!! That is an anti endorsement! LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Annie View Post
    That speaks volumes!! That is an anti endorsement! LOL
    If you pay attention to just the last part after 7:00 he goes on to say specifically that he doesn't think Ted is not a Neocon, but that Rand is the only one that isn't a neocon. Then he tries his best to convince you that Lindsay Graham is his favorite neocon candidate. He tries really hard to convince us what we all know, that Lindsay Graham is a neocon.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Theocrat View Post
    It wouldn't have mattered because Cruz's Iowan supporters were so inundated with his Christian/Israel rhetoric, they wouldn't have cared less about his financial establishment connections (not to mention that most of his supporters don't understand the political/economic implications on Cruz for having those kind of donors, especially as it relates to his positions about the Federal Reserve).
    Yep, coming out with it before NH, especially before the debate, will hurt him much worse. Tonight he is going to try and go full Rand in the debate and try to convince people he is a libertarian. Someone on the panel could bring up this article and ask him why his new hero Ron Paul would rather say nice things about Bernie than the Cruz. Then the Trump will call him the Goldman Sachs candidate (BTW, this is what they found out through testing hurts Cruz the worst among Paul supporters), and possibly Trump will say if the Cruz gets elected, someone will sing "O Canada" at the inauguration.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul



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