The least bad candidate?

[givemeliberty2010]

I've seen a lo of discussion about whether or not it is a good idea to support any of the remaining Republicans and Democrats even if a particular candidate is very distant from the liberty movement. But just as an intellectual exercise, who would you argue is the least bad one of the "major" parties' candidates, regardless of whether you could or should support that person?

[fcreature]

I've been wondering this myself. The determination I've come to is that they're all $#@!ing awful.

[Erazer]

Ted Cruz, because he is a fiscal conservative with better positions on civil liberties and foreign policy than the others in the field.

[fcreature]

Ted Cruz, because he is a fiscal conservative with better positions on civil liberties and foreign policy than the others in the field.

How do we know that?

[Erazer]

How do we know that?

His voting record in the Senate and his presidential campaign platform.

[CPUd]

Here is 100% proof you can trust him:


If he was not trustworthy, consistent and a real conservative, he wouldn't be standing in front of a sign like that now would he?

[Fivezeroes]

His voting record in the Senate and his presidential campaign platform.

Yea, you mean his voting record on the audit the fed bill right? Oh wait, that's right the little bitch never showed up.

[CPUd]

His voting record in the Senate and his presidential campaign platform.

How did he vote on Audit the Fed bill and USA FREEDOM Act?

[CPUd]

[Erazer]

Yea, you mean his voting record on the audit the fed bill right? Oh wait, that's right the little bitch never showed up.

One vote, and if he were there, he would have voted for it. He has made hundreds of excellent votes during the 113th congress.

[Fivezeroes]

How did he vote on Audit the Fed bill and USA FREEDOM Act?

"How do ye vote Senator Cruz"?

Let it be known that Senator Cruz is absent he was too much of a bitch to show up for a bill he signed on to.

[Fivezeroes]

One vote, and if he were there, he would have voted for it. He has made hundreds of excellent votes during the 113th congress.

A VOTE HE CO-SPONSORED. Holy $#@! you Cruz supporters irk the $#@! outta me. He is about as conservative as Hitlery Clinton.

[TheTexan]

A bunch of debbie downers.

Some of you just need to look more on the bright side.

[Schifference]

If Sanders would modify some of his positions and seek Rand for VP I would vote that ticket.

[Fivezeroes]

A bunch of debbie downers.

Some of you just need to look more on the bright side.

Hard to get behind a wolf in sheep clothing.

[Fivezeroes]

If Sanders would modify some of his positions and seek Rand for VP I would vote that ticket.

Could you imagine a Dem and a Rep running together, almost unheard of.

[erowe1]

One vote, and if he were there, he would have voted for it. He has made hundreds of excellent votes during the 113th congress.

That's why he wasn't there. So that he could avoid voting for it.

Now that he's running for president and gets most of his funding from people who don't want the Fed audited, you don't think that affects his position any?

[Schifference]

Could you imagine a Dem and a Rep running together, almost unheard of.

Might just be what Sanders needs to beat Clinton. Sanders then Rand for 8.

[Krugminator2]

Ted Cruz, because he is a fiscal conservative with better positions on civil liberties and foreign policy than the others in the field.

I would/will vote for him. But he isn't really good on any of those things. He flip flopped or has given very muddy signals on virtually every contentious issue. That isn't the worst thing but his flip flops on issues like criminal justice and TPA were just naked pandering. There is no excuse. He changed for political reasons. I wouldn't describe him as passable or reasonable on foreign policy.

[69360]

Cruz, I guess. I won't be defending him, donating or making any effort at all for him. I just decided he was least worst since Rand quit. I could care less what anyone on RPF thinks.

[Suzanimal]

Here is 100% proof you can trust him:


If he was not trustworthy, consistent and a real conservative, he wouldn't be standing in front of a sign like that now would he?

Trus Ted? A TRUS is a Trans Rectal UltraSound. O_o Sounds about right, actually.

[Danke]

Trump.

[nikcers]

Least bad? none of the people running that aren't bad guys are capable of winning, the system is rigged and we will get a bad president regardless of who you pull the trigger on. Unless Ron or Rand endorse someone then you are just going to get troll replies from sock puppet accounts from other candidates.

[Isaac Bickerstaff]

I don't care if Cruz is marginally better than the others. He is the worst choice. Here is why:

He is not conservative/libertarian enough to follow through on what we need him to do.
He is only conservative /libertarian enough to get us blamed for his failures.

[nikcers]

I don't care if Cruz is marginally better than the others. He is the worst choice. Here is why:

He is not conservative/libertarian enough to follow through on what we need him to do.
He is only conservative /libertarian enough to get us blamed for his failures.

This- some people on here were not right with Rand taking the liberty support to Washington because he might soil the reputation and ideology with it. Why would we accept someone who is even further from the spectrum of reason and realism. This is the reason why Rand dropped out, he doesn't want to completely destroy the liberty movement brand completely like Bush did to the neocon/republican brand.

[willwash]

I will be backing Donald Trump in the GOP primary.

One thing I genuinely believe he is serious about is closing the border, which would be a genuine change to the status quo.

I would ultimately support open borders in a truly libertarian state--a state in which the welfare magnets were turned off--but, barring that, the borders must be closed. The people coming across the border now will do nothing but vote for more and more welfare and a more and more leftist state. The longer that goes on, the harder our fight becomes. If the Donald can at least put a stop to the torrent at our border, he will make things easier on us for 2020/2024.

Also, Bloomberg has only said he'll run if it is Trump vs Sanders in the general. I'd like Bloomberg to jump in and run a viable campaign. Not because I like Bloomberg, but because a viable third candidate will break the illusion of there only being two choices.

So, at the risk of neg reps, I confess that with Rand out of the race I will be backing Trump in the GOP primary, not Cruz.

[fcreature]

His voting record in the Senate and his presidential campaign platform.

His record and flip flops on many policies suggest otherwise. Can't trust what the man says at this point.

[Southron]

Trump, I think. I won't be voting for him though, and I discourage anyone else from doing so