Cruz is unlikely to be the nominee, he is not competitive in any states except a few southern states.
I dont think the GOP establishment will back Cruz, hes too polarizing on a national level. Plus hes Canadian. The lawsuits have already begun.
Rubio (the nothing) will get the establishment nod.
$#@! Socialist Sanders. Tired of hearing that $#@!er's name on these forums.
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Cruz will not be the nominee. I predict Rubio (puke) and Kasich (double puke). I am so depressed today. I knew Rand was a long shot, but I did not expect him to drop out so soon. Why did he say he was going to NH the other night and then drop out. Did he get pressured?
I hope he doesn't select Rand as his running mate, because that will just destroy the liberty message even further when Rand is asked to campaign for the hypothetical Cruz/Paul ticket, supporting whatever Cruz stands for. *barf*
Guys, I already tried to save face by admitting that I didn't realize Sandere was so war like! It was my bad, you already proved it to me.... sorry I felt bad when you called out stupidity to those who think sanders is a peace candidate... I was ignorant, not stupid.. Again I'm saving face here, not admitting I'm stupid. I'm actually one of the best debators I've met as well my entire social circle... Doesn't mean I'm not prone to error and I never debate much on this forum simply due to agreeing so much with you all. I used to debate you guys about Israel UNTIL YOU SHOWED ME THE LIGHT (I was a neocon before 08 Ron Paul slowly but surely turned me into a full blow libertarian-the right leaning variety... So I used to support Israel on this site, but now I resent the hell out of Israel)... However I only extend that credit to this site. There is a plethora of BRAIN DEAD IDIOT IDEOLOGUES ON (the late) DailyPaul/"PopLib" who are just as dogmatic n closed minded as boobus Americanus neocon Hannity watching voters.... I'm near personal friends with Michael Medved (at least acquaintances, he knows me by face and name n have met several times in person) after being his most frequent caller over the last 10+ years (he is by far as the best neocon debater among mainstream conservative political pundits.. He used to whoop me.. For those who listen frequently you know A, he hardly ever loses debate, B, I'm "Lucas from Seattle-friend of the show") and I haven't lost a debate with him in over 6 years (well maybe 1-3xs out of 50 calls)... I've whooped Lars Larson 3xs of 3 calls n won't take my calls any more... I've been invited to do segmented debates with black nationalists Tariq Nasheed and Dr Umar Johnson etc....
This self defense post is petty, unnecessary n silly I know, i just don't take being called stupid lightly (I'm not resentful out of spite, I'm just proud of my intellectual, non emotional, rational mindset and want to be taken seriously) even though I could tell it wasn't personal...
Now I admit I should n probably will vote 3rd party like I did in 2012 after Ron dropped out. But I admit my words about voting for Bernie was emotional because I'm angry. On paper Cruz is solid (cummon he was against NDAA n regime change votes) BUT his spineless opportunism made me not trust him UNLESS he selects Rand Paul as VP.... Unlikely I know.... Even tho I am solid libertarian, if I'm forced to choose, I'd rather spend bankruptcy crushing debt money AT HOME or over seas killing humans to make an evil corporate elite rich, I'll choose domestic spending... But I just feel if a Bernie was elected, that may give Rand a chance in 4 years. If a neocon republican is voted in, Rand won't have another chance until he is his dad's age in 2012... All I know is without Rand as the VP, $#@! looks pretty bleak all around n I may just have to quit caring about politics n start some self help n self improvement hobbies lol... I'm an avid meditator (I do Buddhist Sadhanas as well as Transcendental Meditation twice a day AND THE LAST 3 DAYS HAVE BEEN THE MOST DIFFICULT DAYS OF MEDITATION IVE HAD! In other words I'm so stressed n upset that I can't enter the meditational "trance state" (called "samadhi" in sanskrit... It's the state that u need to be considered effective meditation)! That's pretty bad. Meditation is supposed to make me "let go" but if I can't even go into the "trance state" then I'm essentially "just sitting" with hardly any benefit. That's rare experience for me so $#@! is REALLY bothering me to my core:-/
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If one is willing to vote for a full blown Communist(Sanders) then they are NOT Libertarian, Conservative or Right leaning, period.
Kasich is definitely in play as VP - with Carly as one of the right demographic but a disaster,Originally Posted by Jeremy
and Christie too much . . . uh . . . baggage and negotiating with dead middle east Kings planned.
Aside from everything else and the oxymoron of putting the word decency near TrusTed,
I ask if definitely Rand could be on the ballot as US Senator in Kentucky and as GOP Vice-President nominee of someone
in the same election - or not?
I would vote for a Cruz/Paul ticket. I doubt he would choose Rand since they're both first term senators but I would support it if he did.
Cruz will pick who ever Goldman Sachs tells his wife to tell Ted to pick. End of story.
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Bring the $#@!ing house of cards down. I told him to go hardcore libertarian. Introduce End The Fed, repeal 16th & 17th, etc, etc. Send letters to EVERY Senator asking for co-sponsors and expose those who won't.
Bring the system to a halt.
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If I was Rand, I would stay as a respected and influential senator than a powerless VP. Besides Cheny, VPs have had very little influence.
Bernie is an economic illiterate. The guy is bat $#@! crazy too. His entire political philosophy is based on violence - steal and enslave the masses. Bernie is also against human rights which essentially is individual rights. Bernie says you HAVE NONE. Your sorry ass belongs to the state. Now do as he says.
Yes, it is so frustrating to see so many here have no idea that Bernie Sanders is the antithesis of Ron Paul and libertarian philosophy. Sanders, across all issues, seeks to empower the state, whereas Paul seeks to empower individuals. Bernie Sanders has the most dangerous ideology of any of the candidates.
...Rand should turn it down.
Rand shouldn't be on a losing ticket with that fake bitch conservative.
*Cruz To Luz*
Won't happen. Rand is holding on to Kentucky for us. Cruz will pick Rubio hands down no questions asked. Need to win FL.
Thanks for helping the Democrats win.
This is bull$#@! in the extreme. Ted Cruz would nominate supposed "conservatives" just like Bush did. Sell that snake oil somewhere else.I'd give him some more credit than this. He's got a pretty strong legal background and is intelligent. Obama made great choices for nominees (as young and extreme left as possible) from a Liberal's perspective. I think Cruz would make equally strong choices for the conservative side.
It is a good point that this election year matters for no other reason than the SCOTUS. You don't want to see who Hillary or Bernie Sandersnominate do you?
No $#@!, how dare you hasten the decline?
Bernie is pro war on his own people. Bernie promotes a violent philosophy of theft and enslavement. Basically, Bernie is anti-human because he is pro collectivism and anti individualism. And his delusional flock eats that $#@! up!
Gary Johnson 2016 for now...
If Rand does not win the Republican nomination, he should buck the controlled two party system and run as an Independent for President in 2016 and give Americans a real option to vote for.
We are all born libertarians then something goes really wrong. Despite this truth, most people are still libertarians yet not know it.
You'd think he would know about Rogers v. Bellei and United States v Wong Kim Ark... both cases say he is a naturalized citizen and not eligible for the presidency. Bellei even says he is not a Constitutional citizen at all, that his citizenship is completely statutory.I'd give him some more credit than this. He's got a pretty strong legal background and is intelligent. Obama made great choices for nominees (as young and extreme left as possible) from a Liberal's perspective. I think Cruz would make equally strong choices for the conservative side.
It is a good point that this election year matters for no other reason than the SCOTUS. You don't want to see who Hillary or Bernie Sanders
You guys have lost it. Rand is EXTREMELY unlikable. Everyone I talk to outside of the liberty movement thinks he's annoying, short, goofy hair, etc. He has ZERO chance of even being considered for VP by any candidate. I love Rand - I'm just telling you the cold hard truth about what people think. Embrace reality people.
The only reason they would even think about giving Rand the VP spot would be to get him out of the senate.
Unfortunately I found this to be true... all the while praising his very ideas when they are stolen by other candidates. The media has done a great job marginalizing him.
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Noticed the following email in my spam this am:
Typical no shame team Cruz. Didn't the guy say he specifically would not endorse Cruz or was that another guy?Cruz for America: Rand Paul Supporters Endorse Ted Cruz email@conservativeintel.com
Fellow Conservative:
There is a strong wave of liberty movement leaders in early primary states stepping up to support Ted Cruz for President.
Rand Paul’s New Hampshire campaign chairman, state senator Kevin Avard, and other leadership endorsed Cruz because he will fight for the Constitution, protect the Second Amendment, and take on the establishment.
...bla bla donate..
John Drogin
Executive Director, Make DC Listen
Cruz for Senate Campaign Manager, 2012
I don't think Cruz will be the nominee. People keep talking about polling among evangelicals. I think even evangelicals have seen that a candidate will say certain things. Once elected, they forget what they ever said. The Constitution is correct. There is no relgious test, and I think it's for a good reason. People will say anything to get elected.
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I got that one too. I wonder how they got my email. $#@! Cruz.
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Whole premise of this thread is wrong. Cruz will never be the nominee so he won't need to pick any VPs.
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@Ehanced_Deficit's real agenda on RPF =troll:
Who spends this much time copy/pasting the same recycled links, photos/talking points.
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I think Cruz does not have to pick Rubio, but Rubio
must find a bright way to buy off Cruz! Cruz could
offer the VEEP job to MITT and DONALD at the same
time as he sets both guys against each other. Then
he goes to Mitch McConnell an' asks him to muzzle Marco.
That way, when he eats crow, its done privately and well.
Go another one, is this true? I think they got my email from Campaign for Liberty somehow..
Fellow Conservative:
Congressman Justin Amash just endorsed Ted Cruz for President calling him “a principled defender of the Constitution.”
“We owe it to our beliefs to find constitutional conservative political allies who not only respect our philosophy but also fight for our views to be heard, said Amash. "We have found such an ally in Senator Ted Cruz.”
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So you talked to 2 people, thats nice.
Working within the GOP, I found that typical party loyalist Republicans really like Rand, except on foreign policy.
Most people outside of political fanaticism don't really know much about the candidates but we do know, from polls, that Rand is relatively favorable (contrasted to other candidates) with independents.
But you know, let's just take whatever we hear the the Thanksgiving dinner table and accept that as full reality.
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@Ehanced_Deficit's real agenda on RPF =troll:
Who spends this much time copy/pasting the same recycled links, photos/talking points.
7 yrs/25k posts later RPF'ers still respond to this troll
What is the definition of "Natural Born"?
Cruz doesn't qualify for President OR Vp. Why has he been allowed to proceed this far? More evidence that neither party really cares about the Constitution, except when pandering for votesNo Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
The Twelfth Amendment states, "No person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."
Did Ron Paul Inc. and Jesse Benton accept a bribe from the dishonest warmonger punk Cruz for an endorsement? Does anyone care?
The Cruz endorsement was the beginning of the fall of Paul. I wouldn't vote for Cruz if someone held a gun to my head.
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