So what happens to RPF

[heavenlyboy34]

SUPREME/NUTZ 2016

W00T!!!

[Suzanimal]

we have been here a while and I don't forsee us going anywhere.

This ^^^

"Liberty" means different things to different people. There are progressives who actually believe that our brand of liberty, real liberty, is fascism because we don't want to let them have their welfare state and opportunity to get single payer health insurance. They want the "liberty" to enforce their mandates on everybody else through the democratic process.

Ron Paul did a great job of educating people about what real liberty actually means, and he did that for a broad spectrum of the population. Ron Paul is good to have front and center for as long as it takes at least until another person steps up who has the understanding and influence that he did.

And that ^^^

[MaxPower]

No renaming or re-branding. Let it stand as a monument to Ron Paul's work in perpetuity.

[heavenlyboy34]

Dude, he died in 1973.

Typos Happen. Fixed.

[phill4paul]

we have been here a while and I don't forsee us going anywhere.

[Libertas Aut Mortis]

Nice. Glad to see someone else who can't really go full on for the Libertarian Party. A lot of mainstream libertarians are mostly driven by self interest and non-priority issues, such as drugs. They often don't have any enthusiasm for capitalism, and have no problem voting Democrat just to spite Republicans on social issues. They're worried about corruption and see freedom as a moral issue, but are just as sucked into the loss of morality slippery slope as Democrats are. Ironically, some Libertarians could actually be better for social conservatism than Republicans, due to willingness to let states decide things. But it would require the right Libertarian, one that is not morally corrupted, for me to trust.

I truly believe that you can't have Liberty without Virtue, or Virtue without Liberty...they go hand in hand. The Libertarian Party seems to be resistant to Virtue. The Constitution Party seems to frown upon Liberty. The Democrats are going full Marxist. The Republicans are going full Imperialist.

I was happier when I was ignorant. God...why did I ever look away from that damn TV?

[Anti Federalist]

I'll be here till its gone.. great place for intelligent conversation and up-to-date news

You and I will be turning the lights out on the way out the door.

[Anti Federalist]

I would assume it stays unless the current owner decides to sell.

I'll buy, if the price is right.

[Anti Federalist]

I concur, we need a Vermin Supreme forum.

[heavenlyboy34]

I concur, we need a Vermin Supreme forum.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Anti Federalist again.

Ah, well. Some hacker kid around here might be able to make it happen for us.

[cajuncocoa]

I'll buy, if the price is right.

If he wants to sell and the price isn't right for you, we'll have a fundraiser or a chip-in or something.

[cajuncocoa]

Liberty is not about one candidate, and if you truly want to win, you need to take over the party and this is great central place to do it

also acalltopaul.com

*sigh*

Have we figured it out by now??

We need to work on educating people as to why they should want freedom and liberty (even though AF says they don't and never will....and I agree with him. This will be an uphill battle.) Taking over "the party" means nothing if the people don't know why they should vote for us...(or if we have to pretend we're not who we really are.)

And P.S.....I assume by "the party" you mean the GOP. I was done with the GOP 4 years ago. I would have voted for Rand, but now I'm really done with them. Good riddance.

[jbauer]

This movement needs a large source of money with no strings attached.

Lol. Me to!!!!

[jbauer]

Why rebrand or rename? We all came here because of Ron. Who cares if he or his son are not running for POTUS.

At some point Rons influence ends. To keep a successful board there will need to be new members. I doubt many people Google Ron Paul. I could be wrong?

[jbauer]

Can I state the obvious choice?



VERMIN SUPREME forums!

Hell yes!!!!! But can honest Gil be VP!!!

[tod evans]

I'll be here till its gone.. great place for intelligent conversation and up-to-date news

You and I will be turning the lights out on the way out the door.

I'm in..........

[sparebulb]

You and I will be turning the lights out on the way out the door.

Why don't we wait here and see what happens......

[erowe1]

Maybe we can become Liberty Forums.

Libertyforums.com is taken, but there's practically nothing there and what is is a decade out of date. Maybe whoever owns it would sell it cheap to someone who would keep using it for the right cause.

[BamaAla]

1. Get ready for our next potus candidate. Thomas Massie perhaps.
2. Work to elect good state and locals.
3. Sit back and watch this whole clown show work out.
4. When I first came here, I typed in libertyforest.com; I still use that web address to this day. Just call it what you want, but Ron is/was the central figure of this web site, so I think his name should stay at the top.

[RPfan1992]

Nice. Glad to see someone else who can't really go full on for the Libertarian Party. A lot of mainstream libertarians are mostly driven by self interest and non-priority issues, such as drugs. They often don't have any enthusiasm for capitalism, and have no problem voting Democrat just to spite Republicans on social issues. They're worried about corruption and see freedom as a moral issue, but are just as sucked into the loss of morality slippery slope as Democrats are. Ironically, some Libertarians could actually be better for social conservatism than Republicans, due to willingness to let states decide things. But it would require the right Libertarian, one that is not morally corrupted, for me to trust.

I would argue that the Constitution Party aligns better for many paleocons than LP, even if some if it is for the wrong reasons. Though I am skeptical of the Constitution Party's willingness to tackle certain key issues like the NSA.

However, I don't have much enthusiasm for strengthening a 3rd party that would destroy the Republican Party. Unless the Democratic Party is also destroyed in the process, it would give too much power to the Democrats, and America would fall to socialism. I can't see the Democratic Party being destroyed anytime soon, since there's no diversity of thought in it. Everyone just "goes with the flow" and they always lump farther left with the same ideology over and over. There was practically zero resistance in that party to the introduction of socialism. The only thing I can see stopping the two party machine is a party that can pull in independents somewhat equally from the left and the right. Perhaps a "Populist" or organized "Independent" party. It would have quite a wide range of political ideologies, and a very diverse cast fighting for the nomination each time. If the party had recorded debates, they could gain national attention, as they'd be Democrat V.S. Republican esque, which would give people craving the general election debates early something to watch.

Those people are called libertines. Real libertarians are very rare.

[pcosmar]

Maybe we can become Liberty Forums.

Libertyforums.com is taken, but there's practically nothing there and what is is a decade out of date. Maybe whoever owns it would sell it cheap to someone who would keep using it for the right cause.

It is and has been Liberty Forest,, since just after the 2008 run.

Seems fitting it would remain so.

[The Gold Standard]

It is and has been Liberty Forest,, since just after the 2008 run.

Seems fitting it would remain so.

What I was going to say.

[Libertas Aut Mortis]

Those people are called libertines. Real libertarians are very rare.

In historical context...similar to the difference between the American Revolutionaries and the French Revolutionaries?

[cajuncocoa]

I truly believe that you can't have Liberty without Virtue, or Virtue without Liberty...they go hand in hand. The Libertarian Party seems to be resistant to Virtue. The Constitution Party seems to frown upon Liberty. The Democrats are going full Marxist. The Republicans are going full Imperialist.

I was happier when I was ignorant. God...why did I ever look away from that damn TV?

My thought about your comment on the LP and their resistance to Virtue. You put 10 people in a room together and you'll get 10 different opinions on what Virtue is, what they accept as virtuous, where they draw the line. Liberty is the most important thing to strive for in this political process because we can all choose for ourselves where we want to draw that line of virtue, but if we don't have liberty, we can't choose anything.

[TheTexan]

I concur, we need a Vermin Supreme forum.

Well, everyone needs someone to vote for. It's a basic human need, along with food, shelter, and companionship.

[r3volution 3.0]

I'll be here until the internet stops working.

[sparebulb]

Texican,

This needs a reservoir tip.

We need to be safe from the happy endorphin release that comes from supporting your favorite king.

[cajuncocoa]

Well, everyone needs someone to vote for. It's a basic human need, along with food, shelter, and companionship.

Upon hearing this awful news this morning, I realize I may not be able to vote as hard as I thought I would.

[Carlybee]

*sigh*

Have we figured it out by now??

We need to work on educating people as to why they should want freedom and liberty (even though AF says they don't and never will....and I agree with him. This will be an uphill battle.) Taking over "the party" means nothing if the people don't know why they should vote for us...(or if we have to pretend we're not who we really are.)

And P.S.....I assume by "the party" you mean the GOP. I was done with the GOP 4 years ago. I would have voted for Rand, but now I'm really done with them. Good riddance.

Same here. The GOP is an extension of the MIC which leaves liberty SOL.

[TheTexan]

Upon hearing this awful news this morning, I realize I may not be able to vote as hard as I thought I would.

I know. I was shocked. Just shocked, I say.