Who will you support after Rand's campaign suspension?

[Brett85]

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[charrob]

Trump has stated that he wants to "bomb the s*it out of ISIS." How is that any better than Cruz's position?

Trump has flip-flopped on that. You're right. Originally not long ago he said he wanted to get our troops out of the middle east and let Russia and Syria get rid of Isis. imho that would be optimal. Then he stated he wanted to blow up their oil drilling operations where they are getting their funding or capture these operations and use that money for our soldiers. (I disagree with the latter -- the money should be used to rebuild the countries we destroyed with our interventions.)

I personally don't have as much problem though with spending a month using U.S. troops (no more proxies) destroying the ISIS caliphate in eastern Syria and western Iraq and NO WHERE ELSE. That's it. Give them a month, maybe two months to tame the beasts in the democratic and republican parties who want red meat thrown at them. But that's it. It's not that big of an area in east Syria and western Iraq. And work with the Shias in Iran, Assad's government, Russia, and Hezbollah in Lebanon: these are the true enemies of ISIS. When Cruz and Bush and Rubio and Kasich continue to state to work with the Sunnis you know they are lying: the Sunni nations CREATED isis. They are not going to destroy what they created.

Why is it better than Cruz's position? Because Cruz wants regime change in Iran. That means world war with Russia. Because Cruz stated on day 1 he is tearing apart the iranian nuclear deal. Because Cruz wants to continue to back Sunnis against Shias in these proxy wars. Because Cruz wants to continue the encroachment of Russia, voted for sanctions against Russia, and wants to continue the proxy war in Ukraine via using actual Nazis and Jihadists to fight against the eastern ethnic Russians in the Donbass. Because Cruz wants to continue U.S. military exercises with eastern Europe (ie the Baltic states and Poland). Because Cruz stated ON DAY ONE he is changing the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Cruz wreaks of neocon. He was booed out of a meeting of Christians from Syria :



Compare that to Trump when he said he'll know in 6 months if the Israelis are serious about peace with the Palestinians and a 2 state solution. He basically told Netanyahu to go to hell and that he doesn't need Netanyahu's money.

These neocons are my enemy because they've infected the entire U.S. government in both parties. I personally see Cruz just as toxic as Rubio in that respect.

As far as civil liberties, Cruz flip-flopped on NSA spying. But I do agree with you that both Cruz and Trump are about the same on civil liberties and that bothers me a great deal. Both of their statements about Edward Snowden are upsetting. HOWEVER, the biggest threat to our civil liberties imho comes from unending war. And there's a slight chance Trump wants to end this stuff, and that means we'll finally get a pause to fight the current mess we've been handed regarding civil liberties because of these wars.

My gut says our shadow government wants one-world government, globalization, end of U.S. sovereignty. That's the final step for them. And I see Cruz as the biggest cheerleader for the globalists (he even voted for the TPA for the TPP trade agreement which Trump is vehemently opposed to). Cruz wants globalization that's why that snake put that amendment in the Gang of 8's bill to allow legalization for all of the U.S.'s undocumented. That's why he wanted to increase H1b visas by 500% as well as Green Cards by huge numbers.

Trump is a nationalist. He's opposed to the Cruz globalization neocon agenda. He may be bad on civil liberties, but if he ends these wars the unending destruction of our liberties will at least finally come to an end and we can fight back on the mess we've got as a result of these wars.

[K466]

If someone can convince Judge Napolitano to run in 2020, we would have a worthwhile candidate that could run a serious campaign. Otherwise, it's hard to ever see myself voting again, last vote I cast was for Ron Paul and that's hard to follow up on.

[devil21]

Worthy local and state candidates mainly and Greg Brannon's US Senate bid.

[Brian4Liberty]

Greg Brannon:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...lishment-pitch

[Brian4Liberty]

How about getting rid of McCain?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...s-Tucson-stops

[Lovecraftian4Paul]

I'm supporting Trump, without hesitation.

[messana]

Jill Stein if I feel like voting on the day.

[ProBlue33]

I am reposting this from another thread, Cruz supporters need to rethink their new guy

A woman who was a Mike Huckabee supporter has stepped forward and said that at her caucus the speaker for Cruz told everybody that Carson was out and don't waste your vote, vote for "somebody" else. This was replicated across the state. That is a very dirty trick. And a ex-cia guy who supports Cruz was involved as well.
I really wish Ron Paul would step out of the shadows with his son hold a joint news conference and disavow this guy.
If indeed that many Ron Paul people have gone over to him, only Ron Paul himself might be able to bring them away from him.

[Brett85]

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[squirl22]

I'm not supporting anyone else. I can always write-in Rand's name. Other than that, I'm not voting for anyone for POTUS.

[RonZeplin]

New Donald Trump site.... http://loser.com/

[cajuncocoa]

writing in Rons name.

I wish I could do that.

[JK/SEA]

I wish I could do that.

no absentee ballots in your State?

[euphemia]

Anyone on other candidate forums? I suppose if we all show up talking about liberty thinking, we might be persuasive enough to make a candidate look at us seriously.

[idiom]

I don't think any other Presidential candidate is worth supporting. The only ones who are different enough to be worth the effort are at much lower levels.

It doesn't have the glory of the fantasy one shot save the world Presidency, but it gets returns on investment.

[farreri]

I'll live with social conservatism and warmongering to get more free markets. Don't get me wrong, it isn't ideal, but it is the best case scenario for me at this point.

That's right, you'll live, but foreigners will die. Foreigners shouldn't have to be killed by us because of our misguided foreign policy.

Bernie Sanders, in my opinion, is the worst major party candidate to have run in my lifetime. That should put how important capitalism is to me in perspective.

He'll kill less foreigners than any of the other mainstream candidates. I'd vote for him just for that reason--if mainstream candidates were the only choice.

[RJ Liberty]

I don't think any other Presidential candidate is worth supporting. The only ones who are different enough to be worth the effort are at much lower levels.

It doesn't have the glory of the fantasy one shot save the world Presidency, but it gets returns on investment.

Any reason you won't vote for Johnson, Idiom? Just curious. If Johnson gets 5% in the general, the LP qualifies for major federal funding in the following election. 5% could possibly be attainable. It's a goal, at least.

[The Rebel Poet]

We are a Constitutional Republic not a Democracy!

We were supposed to be a constitutional republic. In practice at this time, we are functioning more like a democracy than a republic.

[r3volution 3.0]

I will never vote for socialism.

LP or CP

[CPUd]

Any reason you won't vote for Johnson, Idiom? Just curious. If Johnson gets 5% in the general, the LP qualifies for major federal funding in the following election. 5% could possibly be attainable. It's a goal, at least.

On the wild assumption that this is really your first time on here, go back and read through the threads around September 2012 and you will find how people here felt about that.

[farreri]

I won't be voting for any Republicrat nominee, but I will be rooting for Trump to smash the $#@! out of the GOP. Rand was the only Republican worth voting for. Now I just want to see the GOP get kicked in the teeth and Trump might be good for that.

LOL, me too!

[Mike4Freedom]

LOL, me too!

I was agreeing with you,

and now its gone....

[TheTexan]

Who am I voting for?

NOBT

[r3volution 3.0]

As of now, 23 people said they're voting for Trump.

So, given The Texan, that's 22 people who are serious in saying they're voting for Trump.

Are you people aware that he's for the bank bailouts, and auto/union bailouts, single-payer socialized medicine, the Obama stimulus, eminent domain, gun control, & partial birth abortion? Do you know that his "tough" immigration plan consists of deporting all illegals and then allowing them all back into the country (through that "big beautiful door").

Do you know that you're being taken for a ride?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...esearch-Thread

[fr33]

Probably LP.

I understand voting Trump because it's funny though. He's the meme candidate. Vermin Supreme wishes he could be so popular.

[Carlybee]

No one. I don't trust the system or the ballots or the PTB. It's all a bunch of smoke and mirrors and posturing and bullcrap.

[otherone]

No one. I don't trust the system or the ballots or the PTB. It's all a bunch of smoke and mirrors and posturing and bullcrap.

This.

There has never been a people who voted themselves free.

[JSBach]

This is another FAUX poll... the un-Paul's must love it! Where is Senator Paul? He suspended his part to campaign in KY! He is still on the ballot and I intend to caucus and vote Paul in the Primary! So should all grassroots! There is not a single eligible candidate on that list who is truly ANTI-FED, anti-WARS, end the IRS, etc.

The Founders 'would be ashamed' of this poll! So am I!

It is not like the grassroots to leave Paul off the list regardless of his focus on KY! The Democrats have a candidate in KY running against Paul, and the GOP is doing what they do best... stabbing him in the back to leave the POTUS race!

There will be some surprises, but the grassroots voting for anyone who is not Paul, anyone who is pro-FED, anyone who is constitutionally ineligible, would be a shocker!

Donald Ross the Trumpet Buffoon Perot is only in this race to take out Rand Paul, just as Perot took out Bo Gritz! The rest were there to help that plan! It has always and only been about defeating the only anti-FED candidate, Rand Paul! It is still! When they are convinced he is dead, really dead-dead-dead in this race, then you will see amazing changes.. like Cruz biting the dust, Rubio disappearing, Trumpet casting his votes to another!

In the end it will likely be the Hun vs. the Bush's... Tweedledee vs. Tweedledum... the Quigley formula back to its rightful place again, as was always the plan!

To the degree that Rand Paul does not appear dead in this race, you will see the Trumpet and others hang on, and on, and on... until they can be sure! The Trumpet Buffoon never in a million years planned on getting the nomination folks! Read some history about Ross Perot and about D. Buffoon Trump!

See:

https://jsbach1775.wordpress.com/201...-bushes-again/

and, https://jsbach1775.wordpress.com/201...t-part-of-one/

and, https://jsbach1775.wordpress.com/2015/11/03/the-time-has-come-it-is-paul-vs-un-paul/

[Unknownuser]

Rand is on all the ballots. Why not vote for him?