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    Progressivism’s Vanquished Foe—Conservatism The Failure of Constitutionalism

    https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/02/...-progressives/

    Part 2 of 3

    By James Ostrowski

    February 2, 2016

    Note: This is an excerpt from Progressivism: A Primer on the Idea Destroying America (2014).

    Conservatism is a reaction to progressivism and its essence is to be against progressivism as opposed to having a positive program. To fill the void, conservatives have often repaired to the safe harbor of constitutionalism as a substitute for a coherent ideology. There are numerous problems with constitutionalism as a bulwark against progressivism and constitutionalism has been and will continue to be a spectacular failure in staunching the continual growth of progressive government.

    First and foremost, there is no way to enforce the Constitution against the government as the government itself claims the right to interpret and enforce the document in any dispute with a private citizen. For example, in the “Pork Lawsuit,”[1] I represented fifty solid citizens who sought to finally enforce New York State’s 160-year-old ban on the state giving money to private business firms. The language of the provision was crystal clear: “The money of the state shall not be given or loaned to or in aid of any private corporation or association, or private undertaking. . .”[2] In spite of this clear language, the state was routinely giving out billions of dollars in outright cash grants to private firms. Much to my cynic’s surprise, we won 5-0 in the Appellate Division, the State’s second highest court. Having zero faith in government courts, I threw out the winning brief in that Court and started from scratch, producing a much stronger case for our side. At oral argument, which you can watch on You Tube,[3] the State’s attorney gave a long, rambling and incoherent speech and was unable to cogently answer questions from the judges.

    Nevertheless, in spite of the clear language on our side, not to mention the unambiguous legislative history and all reasonable policy arguments, we lost 5-2 in the Court of Appeals in an opinion by a judge who was as silent as the Sphinx at oral argument. There were two blistering dissents by Judge Eugene Pigott and by Judge Robert Smith (reputed to be a libertarian!), who all but accused the majority of treason (“judicially repealing” the Constitution).

    Now, what do you do when the government judicially erases the Constitution? You can either grin and bear it, which is what we did, or you can muster a million-man army, go to Albany, depose the Court, replace it with a court with better reading comprehension skills, and stop corporate handouts. Here’s the problem: you will probably be arrested by the FBI as soon as you announce your intentions. Second, even if you could secret a million-man army into downtown Albany, the PSA would simply muster a three million man army and defeat you on the battlefield in a day or two, with the ninety percent of the public that is progressive, cheering wildly as you are slaughtered in the streets or rounded up and put into a government cage[4] for fifty years. So, again, the problem, a fatal one, with constitutions is that there is no way to enforce them short of war.

    Yet, surely the argument for a constitution in the first place is to resolve disputes over the limits of government power without going to war!

    Thus, constitutionalism failed.

    The Constitution is not a contract, however, since many view it as such, it will be useful to assume for the sake of argument that it is a contract. Would you sign a contract with a private firm that gave that firm sole power to interpret and enforce the contract? Would you sign a contract with a roofer that, in effect, allowed him to charge you $15,000 and not put a roof on your house? Only a fool would do so, yet, the Constitution is precisely such a sham “contract” as it gives the other party to it sole power to adjudicate any disputes about it. It is yet another nail in the coffin of conservatism that its chief ideological bulwark, constitutionalism, turns out to be a sophisticated hoax!

    As if the above flaws were not enough, constitutionalism has other problems insofar as it purports to be a bulwark against progressivism. Surely, many constitutionalists believe that the constitution is a statement of various underlying objective truths about the world, human nature, government and politics. This overlooks the fact that progressives are pragmatists, that is, folks who reject the notion that there is an objective reality outside our minds that we can know and express in words understandable to other people. To cite a constitution to a progressive is like speaking Mandarin to a Martian or English to a wall. It’s a pointless exercise since pragmatists reject the notion of objective truth and are solely interested in the practical consequences of ideas and words. Thus, in the Pork Lawsuit, the five progressive judges in the majority, including two conservative Republicans, no doubt believed that state government must have the tools of economic development to compete with other states and countries that have them. They were oblivious to whether the Constitution of 1846 was true or not. It was, in 2011, no longer practical. The bottom line is that the 90 percent of the public that is progressive, elected progressive governors who appointed progressive judges who gave us a progressive result, the Constitution be damned!

    Yet another fatal flaw with the United States Constitution is that, while its Bill of Rights was libertarian in nature and origin, the actual body of the Constitution created the framework for an extremely powerful federal government. Proof of this fact is Robert “Brutus” Yates’ essay, Antifederalist No. 1, wherein he demonstrates through ineluctable logic how a huge and powerful federal government could and likely would evolve from the extensive powers granted to the three branches of government in that document. He was right as it turns out:


    “It is true this government is limited to certain objects, or to speak more properly, some small degree of power is still left to the states, but a little attention to the powers vested in the general government, will convince every candid man, that if it is capable of being executed, all that is reserved for the individual states must very soon be annihilated, except so far as they are barely necessary to the organization of the general government. The powers of the general legislature extend to every case that is of the least importance — there is nothing valuable to human nature, nothing dear to freemen, but what is within its power. It has authority to make laws which will affect the lives, the liberty, and property of every man in the United States; nor can the constitution or laws of any state, in any way prevent or impede the full and complete execution of every power given. The legislative power is competent to lay taxes, duties, imposts, and excises; — there is no limitation to this power, unless it be said that the clause which directs the use to which those taxes, and duties shall be applied, may be said to be a limitation: but this is no restriction of the power at all, for by this clause they are to be applied to pay the debts and provide for the common defence and general welfare of the United States; but the legislature have authority to contract debts at their discretion; they are the sole judges of what is necessary to provide for the common defence, and they only are to determine what is for the general welfare; this power therefore is neither more nor less, than a power to lay and collect taxes, imposts, and excises, at their pleasure; not only [is] the power to lay taxes unlimited, as to the amount they may require, but it is perfect and absolute to raise them in any mode they please. No state legislature, or any power in the state governments, have any more to do in carrying this into effect, than the authority of one state has to do with that of another. In the business therefore of laying and collecting taxes, the idea of confederation is totally lost, and that of one entire republic is embraced. It is proper here to remark, that the authority to lay and collect taxes is the most important of any power that can be granted; it connects with it almost all other powers, or at least will in process of time draw all other after it; it is the great means of protection, security, and defence, in a good government, and the great engine of oppression and tyranny in a bad one. This cannot fail of being the case, if we consider the contracted limits which are set by this constitution, to the late [state?] governments, on this article of raising money. No state can emit paper money — lay any duties, or imposts, on imports, or exports, but by consent of the Congress; and then the net produce shall be for the benefit of the United States: the only means therefore left, for any state to support its government and discharge its debts, is by direct taxation; and the United States have also power to lay and collect taxes, in any way they please. Every one who has thought on the subject, must be convinced that but small sums of money can be collected in any country, by direct taxe[s], when the foederal government begins to exercise the right of taxation in all its parts, the legislatures of the several states will find it impossible to raise monies to support their governments. Without money they cannot be supported, and they must dwindle away, and, as before observed, their powers absorbed in that of the general government.” (Emphasis added.)

    So, in the battle against progressivism, constitutionalism is worse than useless as it cannot accomplish the goal and will simply distract us and mollify us into drilling an infinite number of dry holes. The rejection of constitutionalism as a strategy is yet another reason for us to disassociate from the conservative movement.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee



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    one of the nice things about Arkansas. is that we get to make up and use our own words.

    "Constitutionalism" that is NOT a word sir. care to argue?

    or, is your mental constitution not up to the task?
    "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." - Albert Einstein

    "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. - Thomas Jefferson.

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    What do you know, he's even dumber than I had originally believed. I doubted that was actually possible.

    Must be an escapee from Arkansas gubmnt skoolin'. What a waste of space and fresh air.

    Constitutionalism

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...47.dMZlhChbjto

    Just way too many syllables for your one brain synapse to handle?
    Last edited by Ronin Truth; 02-02-2016 at 09:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin Truth View Post
    What do you know, he's even dumber than I had originally believed. I doubted that was actually possible.

    Must be an escapee from Arkansas gubmnt skoolin'. What a waste of space and fresh air.

    Constitutionalism

    https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...47.dMZlhChbjto

    Just way too many syllables for your one brain synapse to handle?
    thank you for correcting me!
    are Constitutions always bad? or just ours?

    con·sti·tu·tion
    ˌkänstəˈt(y)o͞oSH(ə)n/
    noun
    noun: constitution; plural noun: constitutions

    1.
    a body of fundamental principles or established precedents according to which a state or other organization is acknowledged to be governed.
    synonyms: charter, social code, law; More
    bill of rights;
    rules, regulations, fundamental principles
    "the constitution guarantees our rights"
    the basic written set of principles and precedents of federal government in the US, which came into operation in 1789 and has since been modified by twenty-seven amendments.
    singular proper noun: Constitution; noun: the Constitution
    2.
    the composition of something.
    "the genetic constitution of a species"
    synonyms: composition, makeup, structure, construction, arrangement, configuration, formation, anatomy
    "the chemical constitution of the dye"
    the forming or establishing of something.
    "the constitution of a police authority"
    3.
    a person's physical state with regard to vitality, health, and strength.
    "pregnancy had weakened her constitution"
    synonyms: health, physical condition, fettle; physique
    "she has the constitution of an ox"
    a person's mental or psychological makeup.
    "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." - Albert Einstein

    "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. - Thomas Jefferson.

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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Anti Federalist again.
    Damn rep system. :P Someone +rep AF, plz.
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    Progressivism’s Vanquished Foe—Conservatism GOP Politics in a Nutshell

    Part 3 of 3

    By James Ostrowski

    February 3, 2016

    Note: This is an excerpt from Progressivism: A Primer on the Idea Destroying America (2014).


    The utter failure of conservative Republicans to combat progressivism in any meaningful way explains the nature of GOP politics today. Like the Seinfeld sitcom, it is much ado about nothing, but without the laughs.


    Having failed to roll back any major progressive program in the last 100 years, how does the GOP manage to keep the votes and donations of the rank and file flowing in sufficient quantities to keep the GOP machine in power? Highly paid and talented GOP consultants have brilliantly risen to the challenge. There must be something that keeps the troops anteing up their votes and legwork and contributions to the mendacious Republican machine that talks smaller government but never delivers. There is. Here is how the scam works. The GOP whips up a personal hatred of prominent Democrats as a red herring to distract their own rank and file away from their lengthy record of failure.


    How do members of the GOP machine—elected and party officials, government employees and contractors, lawyers, consultants, and lobbyists, keep the gravy train rolling? Not by proposing to roll back the very same progressive big government that the rank and file basically supports. That would likely involve losing elections which would threaten to cut off the money spigot. Rather, the GOP machine deliberately distracts the rank and file’s attention away from ideas, issues and policies, and manipulates the masses into personally hating the leading Democrats du jour. Brilliant! Well done. These operatives, by the way, think that Ron Paul and any other activists who really care about ideas are saps and they are laughing at us all the way to the bank.


    Hillary was right. There is a vast, right-wing conspiracy to whip up hatred of Democratic icons like Bill and Hillary and Barack and Michelle primarily for their personal peccadilloes. So long as you hate Obama personally, you won’t be focusing on the GOP’s pathetic record of never shrinking government. Who cares if the GOP-controlled House continues to vote to fund progressive big government? What’s really important is that rascal Obama golfs too much and Michelle takes too many vacations. The nerve!


    Conclusion.

    Conservatism is an idea whose time has come and gone. While historical liberalism has a long list of monumental accomplishments, one struggles to conjure up a single significant accomplishment of American conservatism.

    Conservatism will never wage a winning war against progressivism. Worse yet, because of its half-hearted defense of market economics; its glorification of militarism and war and law enforcement; its often hostile attitude towards civil liberties; and its endless compromises with progressives to maintain power, the Liberty Movement’s various dalliances with this failed ideology have produced nothing of value, have tainted the Movement and have caused confusion about its true nature. The Liberty Movement must sever its ties to conservatism and move forward.


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    James Ostrowski is an attorney in Buffalo, New York and author of Government Schools Are Bad for Your Kids: What You Need to Know and Political Class Dismissed: Essays Against Politics." His latest book is Direct Citizen Action: How We Can Win the Second American Revolution Without Firing a Shot. See his website.


    Copyright © 2016 James Ostrowski



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    Hmmmm, at the end of the day ALL political power grows from the barrel of a gun. Always has, always will.

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    Interesting analysis. Here's the problem with it. It fails to define the word "progressivism." When Alexander Hamilton proposed a tax on whiskey which hurt frontier farmers based on the argument that the money was needed to pay the national army to fight the indians when the frontier farmers didn't ask for nor want help from the federal government from on that regard....when our "founding father" George Washington sicked the military, that was supposed to be protecting the farmers, on those same farmers, was the "progress?" It certainly wasn't what most people would consider "liberal" by any stretch of the imagination. That's why the word "statism", though it was new to me in 2007 when I first heard it (random poster: "You statist!" me: "No I'm not! But what the hell is a statist?"), is a much better word than "progressive." There is nothing progressive about slavery. There's nothing libertarian about it either. Yet, at one time, it was most certainly "constitutional."

    Anyway...enough rambling. Here's the problem we face with no easy solution. How to convince people that statism, progressive or otherwise, is generally a bad thing regardless of whether or not it is "constitutional?" And that comes down to basic values.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Interesting analysis. Here's the problem with it. It fails to define the word "progressivism." When Alexander Hamilton proposed a tax on whiskey which hurt frontier farmers based on the argument that the money was needed to pay the national army to fight the indians when the frontier farmers didn't ask for nor want help from the federal government from on that regard...
    It was my understanding that the "Whiskey Tax" was passed to repay foreign interests who backed the revolution.
    All modern revolutions have ended in a reinforcement of the power of the State.
    -Albert Camus

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    The state is the name for the group in a territory with the greatest power to coerce.

    It does not have a monopoly on coercion (the petty mugger coerces, e.g.), but it alone among coercers cannot be coerced.

    Thus it is impossible to make the state obey any constitution, written or customary.

    It does what it likes, based on what it perceives to be in its own best interest.

    This is the fallacy underlying constitutionalism.

    So, the OP's right, but he's missing an important parallel...

    Even if the state were abolished, as if the US government and all its instruments suddenly vanished into thin air, there would still be some groups more powerful than others. How would you make the more powerful groups adhere to the NAP? You wouldn't. It's just as impossible as making our current government adhere to that other set of rules called the US Constitution. In either case, it is impossible for the weak to make the strong do anything. The only hope for changing the behavior of the strong is to make them want to act differently. Yet we certainly can't expect them all to be humanitarians.

    Enter: proprietary government, where the self-interest of the ruler motivates him to minimize the size of the state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    The state is the name for the group in a territory with the greatest power to coerce.

    It does not have a monopoly on coercion (the petty mugger coerces, e.g.), but it alone among coercers cannot be coerced.

    Thus it is impossible to make the state obey any constitution, written or customary.

    It does what it likes, based on what it perceives to be in its own best interest.

    This is the fallacy underlying constitutionalism.

    So, the OP's right, but he's missing an important parallel...

    Even if the state were abolished, as if the US government and all its instruments suddenly vanished into thin air, there would still be some groups more powerful than others. How would you make the more powerful groups adhere to the NAP? You wouldn't. It's just as impossible as making our current government adhere to that other set of rules called the US Constitution. In either case, it is impossible for the weak to make the strong do anything. The only hope for changing the behavior of the strong is to make them want to act differently. Yet we certainly can't expect them all to be humanitarians.

    Enter: proprietary government, where the self-interest of the ruler motivates him to minimize the size of the state.

    would this.. "proprietary government" have a rule of law?

    or would it be up to the whims of the ruler?

    so, the very idea of the "rule of law" is a sham?
    "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough." - Albert Einstein

    "for I have sworn upon the altar of god eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. - Thomas Jefferson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HVACTech View Post
    would this.. "proprietary government" have a rule of law?

    or would it be up to the whims of the ruler?

    so, the very idea of the "rule of law" is a sham?
    If rule of law means that the ruler is bound by the law, then yes it's a sham (who could enforce the law against the ruler?).

    But if rule of law means predictable rule ("you must pay 10% income tax next year"), as opposed to arbitrary rule ("I'll take what I like from you whenever I like"), then certainly that's possible. And a ruler with the desire to maximize the value of his territory (and who has some understanding of economics) would rule predictably, because he would realize that's necessary for his subjects to be productive (they need predictable rules to be able to plan effectively for the future).



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