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I don't watch TV or listen to the radio. I'm not bombarded with this jackassery on a constant basis and I see it for what it is, so let me share some insights based on what I see when I do.
Fox News doesn't even try not to be a bunch of $#@!ing clowns. That's their thing. They're the clowniest clowns in clowntown. FFS, we're talking about a network that still gives Frank Lutz a permanent job eight years after Penn and Teller outed him as a complete sheister.
Why else would they be so in love with Trump? You want to reign in clowntown, you act like the king clown.
CNN is only marginally better. The Democrat debate I watched on CNN was actually sort of dignified. They talked about actual issues.
The Republican debates on CNN aren't quite as ridiculous as the Fox debate, but it's still all he-said-she-said, talk about the other candidates, gossip mongering trash.
So there, it's a lot less media bias, and still just clowning. And again, Trump comes out on top.
The "media bias" isn't bias against Rand. I hate to say it, but it's bias against Republicans. And Fox News is the most biased.
The only outfit I know of that doesn't treat Republicans like a clown troupe is NPR. They bill themselves as the station intelligent people tune in to, and yeah, you do actually need better than 90 IQ to pick up on how they slant everything to the left, and better than 115 to be able to point out how they make that slant nearly vertical without making it seem biased at all.
So this is how I would overcome it, if I was calling the shots:
Go back to appealing to the left.
The media is run by the left. This hasn't changed in 50 years. Fox News was supposed to be our big breakout, but the only thing they've done is caricature conservative talking points so that leftists have something to point at and laugh.
So give them something to chew on. Go back to being staunchly antiwar, for one. Rand did a pretty good job of mentioning civil liberties issues like privacy and the drug war, but it has never been in the forefront with him.
When a moderator asks if you would eliminate the CIA, do what Ron did - golf clap at them.
Go back to the talking point about how there's enough money to fund our existing social programs if we stop buying bombs.
There are no crimes against people.
There are only crimes against the state.
And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.
I register and comment on as many articles as I can. I point out the bias and explain why liberty is better.
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“I’m a doctor. That’s a baby.”~~~Dr. Manny Sethi
The first one is, probably obvious, that you have to use media formats NOT controlled by media billionaires. And, I think you have to distance yourself from them if you can. Not participating in any of their debates or media.
You then thus have to use alternate methods.
I'll tell a quick story to illustrate a method that works.
The creator of Geek Squad when he started the business with just himself, he got a unique looking car and plastered it in company colors with a company logo. If he wasnt on a call repairing a computer, he would drive it around sports events, through downtown, etc. etc. always driving the wheels off of it. The people in the area ended up thinking that Geek Squad was this huge, massive company all because around town they always saw the marked car running around. But it wasnt a huge company with a fleet of cars. It was 1 man with 1 car. But the perception was different.
You also cant take election cycles off. There should be liberty events happening all of the time, as many places as we can have them. Political meetings, sports event, car shows, fireworks displays, air shows, etc. etc. we should be running booths to spread liberty. Cant sit around and wait till an election year to get things in motion.
That's definitely a factor but you can't bluff all the way.
I think we definitely have to make an effort at creating something with 24hr broadcasting. Some of it can be taped and reruns, some of it live. Continuous broadcasting is something that will make people come back a lot more if the content is good. It should be a channel/network where people come to relax (!). This is very important. People do not watch a channel because they want their opinions changed. They will watch a channel because it's fun, relaxing or interesting and then they will unwillingly open up their minds to propaganda messages that are mixed into the content. That's how we have to go about this.
"I am a bird"
I think we could come up with different length responses to different hot topics to make it a copy/paste deal for all of us.
We will have a much stronger message when it is unified, which I think is one of the detriments in rallying people to liberty...theres 5,000 different voices and messages. Example, Gary Johnson approves of baby murder and its ok because he's for liberty. I'm for liberty and dont approve because the right to life is the first right listed in the constitution. Next you have two liberty supporters spewing different messages. Unify the messages.
Definitely not saying bluffing ourselves...but theres a reason the Ron Paul blimp did well.
The best way to organize this is a "liberty tree" where we divide the country and make a network of individuals working towards liberty and volunteering to put the message out there at events.
Do it region specific, then state specific, then major city specific. Have a chair for the Southwest, chair person for Texas, chair for Dallas, chair for Houston. Then we work on building teams around those chairs for events.
Most importantly, we have to develop media that is unified.
In order to pull this all off though, we have to get people willing to bend a little here and there and create the unifying message and media.
I think first order should be drafting a liberty creed that everyone can agree on that we are all working towards.
Good luck with that. The LP has been struggling and fighting over that for decades. It just serves to divide people even further.
I think it really comes down to education. Government education is about getting people to buy what is being sold to them without questioning it. Whether it's food, clothing, entertainment, housing, culture, art, love, war, or politics, our society has lost the ability to think independently and critically. Until you rectify that problem, I don't think starting a new media arm will do much.
I'd support an Amendment to the Constitution banning government education. Short of that, I think the battle will always be uphill.
"And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
Well, I'll make myself available as an overseas correspondent from Europe.
"I am a bird"
Right before my house went dark from TV broadcasts, I was starting to pull digital signal out of my erstwhile roof antenna.
I was fascinated by RT, NHK world, and to a lesser extent Al Jazeera.
I knew right off that they were simply state mouthpieces from another part of the world - but the thing is, especially about RT and NHK world, they had human interest pieces.
Every once in a while I'd get to watch a half hour show about a church somewhere in Russia where the day is six months long, which was made completely out of wood. And it wasn't making a point, just showcasing the craftsmanship that went into it, and maybe a little on how since it was so far out of the way it didn't get targeted by the purges.
Or I'd catch a five minute piece about the yearly reveal of the mummy of a Japanese monk who succeeded in practicing Sokushinbutsu. And I'll always remember the Japanese hillbilly who caught vipers so he could pickle them in alcohol, which he then drank after a hard day's work.
I think stuff like that - value-neutral pieces that just show people from other countries - would be right at home on a liberty themed network. It would reinforce the idea that when we talk about foreign policy, we're talking, ultimately, about people. It would be nice to see them once in a while in conjunction with that message.
Taking that a step further, think about how many histories could be told that people have never heard. Think about how much religious reporting could be done. Not the commentary and crap we get today, but actual reporting of actual facts.
Point is, it would be hard for me to limit it to only 24 hours of programming each day.
There are no crimes against people.
There are only crimes against the state.
And the state will never, ever choose to hold accountable its agents, because a thing can not commit a crime against itself.
I dont disagree. And it might be something as simple as "Protecting life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"...but there should be SOMETHING. Sports teams, military units, etc. etc. use mantras and creeds to signify and grow unity. The liberty movement is no different. We're still people that do seek unity...just not on every single personal belief possible.
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Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal or why only dumbasses and cultural marxists are for it.
Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
The Property Basis of Rights
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Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal or why only dumbasses and cultural marxists are for it.
Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
The Property Basis of Rights
Quite frankly, I think advancements in peer to peer technology and a collapse of the US dollar will be far more liberating than politics ever can be. The only way to liberty is to make government irrelevant and impotent.
That's too in their face. News wouldn't be the lead; nor would politics. That only appeals to a small audience. Have to get them in by running TV reruns that they like. Some will stay for the news and it has to be PROFESSIONALLY DONE. Not some idiot that took a radio and TV class in HS or college and wants to be a star.Quote Originally Posted by Peace&Freedom View Post
Yes, get a real alternative network on the cable dial (or through syndication), call it "Liberty TV" and promote it as the true remedy to pro-government, pro-war, pro-PC news and commentary stations. BUT FOR IT TO HAPPEN, AND FOR IT TO WORK, AND FOR IT TO NOT GET CO-OPTED:
I've watched UP do it and infuse their lefty BS promoting specials, etc. in commercial breaks. What brought me there was that they had a rerun showing that I liked. If there are enough good reruns that appeal to our target audience, some will stay. Even for the news.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Up_(TV_network)
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Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal or why only dumbasses and cultural marxists are for it.
Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
The Property Basis of Rights
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Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal or why only dumbasses and cultural marxists are for it.
Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
The Property Basis of Rights
Media bias isn't what needs combating. It's the malfeasance in the media that needs to be countered and shown.
But you have to work with what you have. It's the only way.
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Chant harder!
Seriously, though, we need to own the issues before there is a candidate. We need to keep the opinion pages in newspapers full of letters on banking shenanigans, military waste, domestic waste,--general stories on intervention stupidity--without naming a candidate. Then, when there is a candidate worth supporting, it won't take nearly as much media to get his message out to win people over. The meager media we can hope to muster can just be spent connecting our guy with the support we have already created.
"This here's Miss Bonnie Parker. I'm Clyde Barrow. We rob banks."
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You have the right to remain silent. Anything you post to the internet can and will be used to humiliate you.
I help people build TV networks and find their niches for a living. I have had a pretty innovative idea for a global news network for a while.
But I don't think it is the solution.
We have been successfully getting slates of candidates elected. We need to stick to that and stop shooting for the Presidency.
When we are shooting for the Presidency It has to be outrageous and stunt based. Rand was dominating when he did that. Trump got to the top by being un-ignorable.
Rand was doing that $#@! really well about a year ago then got all 'professional'.
Things like the 24 hour live stream, was neutered to being just a controlled fluff piece.
Its been a while since Rand has said anything exciting or controversial. He hasn't given speeches like his fathers, "Imagine" or "what-If".
He is acting like a great rank and file senator, nothing like a national leader.
The MSM would carry Rand as their headline day in and day out if he was starting $#@! the whole time. They hate boring, or rather their viewers do.
The American TV audience is one of the lowest common denominators on the planet. Everything has to be dumbed the $#@! down and hyped to oblivion.
INTJ's make up 2% of the population, that is Rand's base. Stop $#@!n wishing that everyone would suddenly switch to that type of personality. It will never happen.
If you ran a news channel that appealed to Americans you would all shoot yourselves.
How to appeal to Americans:
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In New Zealand:
The Coastguard is a Charity
Air Traffic Control is a private company run on user fees
The DMV is a private non-profit
Rescue helicopters and ambulances are operated by charities and are plastered with corporate logos
The agriculture industry has zero subsidies
5% of the national vote, gets you 5 seats in Parliament
A tax return has 4 fields
Business licenses aren't a thing
Prostitution is legal
We have a constitutional right to refuse any type of medical care
Most of my tweets get 30-800 impressions, I was retweeted by an anonymous (the group) handle the other day and got over 60,000 impressions on that tweet. I think we need to make some friends. I think we need to convince some of these more radical groups with large followings that voluntarism is the right path, and that the liberty movement is the right group to join or work with to work towards that goal. Many of these groups already have grassroots media, in my search for dirt on Ted yesterday I found that the liberty movement has some that I did not know about, and I would be supportive in helping establish more in what ways I can. So I guess two things- outreach- and using what media we have or create in the future efficiently to lessen how much more we need to create.
But Joey and Janey Meaner do, and are.
I'd have to put them behind MSNBC and CNN on those points, not that it makes any difference, given they are all WAY beyond the threshold.Fox News doesn't even try not to be a bunch of $#@!ing clowns. That's their thing. They're the clowniest clowns in clowntown. FFS, we're talking about a network that still gives Frank Lutz a permanent job eight years after Penn and Teller outed him as a complete sheister.
?? Doesn't that blondie bint... Megyn something-or-other go on regular tirades against him? Perhaps she's pissed that she didn't land the moniker "Mrs. Trump".Why else would they be so in love with Trump?
I see them as marginally worse. Six of one, I suppose...CNN is only marginally better.
You think? I thought anyone better than 60 would pick up on it. They really are not very subtle at all, to my eyes.The only outfit I know of that doesn't treat Republicans like a clown troupe is NPR. They bill themselves as the station intelligent people tune in to, and yeah, you do actually need better than 90 IQ to pick up on how they slant everything to the left, and better than 115 to be able to point out how they make that slant nearly vertical without making it seem biased at all.
This is devastating truth.The media is run by the left. This hasn't changed in 50 years. Fox News was supposed to be our big breakout, but the only thing they've done is caricature conservative talking points so that leftists have something to point at and laugh.
He's not a particularly good salesman; certainly not for the Meaner market. They love Trump because he is a brawler. 'Murka has come to love brawlers. Can't say that I get it, other than that which turning to my standard assumption yields: the average man is a moron.So give them something to chew on. Go back to being staunchly antiwar, for one. Rand did a pretty good job of mentioning civil liberties issues like privacy and the drug war, but it has never been in the forefront with him.
Did he really?When a moderator asks if you would eliminate the CIA, do what Ron did - golf clap at them.
Once again I am directed by all I see to recommend to one and all to accept the fact that we are $#@!ed, and to prepare for the worst, while retaining the slim hope that I am dead wrong and that one day you will all come together, apprehend me, bury me to my waist, and start throwing stones. But for those who have not yet done this, ask yourself the question: what will you do if this thing we call America goes seriously south? You really do not want to go off the precipice with no plan of what to do as you plummet into the abyss with all your fellows. Seriously, you don't.
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It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.
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