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They're not disputed claims. As far as I can tell from your own posts, you yourself don't dispute them. So I'm not going to waste my time on it. It's all been covered ad nauseam.
This is nothing like what happened to Ron Paul. You're exactly right. That was smearing a good man. This is about Donald Trump, the exact opposite of a good man.
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^^^That video that Gunny posted is an edited hit piece. In 2010 Jones had a guest on named Darwin Boedeker because the BATFE were indiscriminately shutting down gun shows. in Texas. Jones announced on his radio show that people in the Austin and surrounding areas need to go to the Capitol and protest this.
The woman in the video arguing with Jones is Catherine Bleish. Some of you old timers on the forum know Catherine Bleish also threw Ron Paul under the bus too--just sayin'.
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
No. Do you dispute anything I said? If so, then what? For all your commentary, you're awfully hesitant to dispute anything. I've seen documented proof for each one. In every case it's easy to find for anyone who's interested. If you're not, that's fine. No skin off my back.
Why do you keep defending Trump? Is if because AJ told you to?
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
Um, yea, you can't really hold what his dad did against him. That would be like the media holding the racist newspapers that Ron was mentioned in on Rand. As for his retweets, to err is to be human. No one says he's not an idiot for doing it, but people make mistakes.
Now to his more damning stuff, the stuff with the Clinton's, that scares me a bit. But, that was 10-15 years ago at his wedding to Melania. Opinions change in 15 years.
Well now hold on. I thought the issue was the associations these candidates have. That's what I was responding too.
Plus, it would be one thing if Trump had done a good job of distancing himself from his racist upbringing. But when he retweets lies about black people from white nationalists, that doesn't help his case.
All I'm saying is, AJ can criticize Cruz. He's right to do so. But it makes no sense at all to turn around and apply a lower standard to Trump.
Rand tried that in the first debate, and had a miserable performance. Not only from a tonal perspective (it sounded like he was awkwardly yelling into the microphone), but he came across as a shill for the GOP establishment.
Rand simply doesn't have the stature, voice, or personality to be Trump-like. And that's fine. He's had much better debate performances since returning to a more natural, reactive stance as opposed to trying to force the action. In boxing parlance, Rand is a counterpuncher, not an aggressive, inside fighter.
The epitome of libertarian populismOriginally Posted by Ron Paul
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
AJ is a paid actor, and a very good one at that. He is the best conman in media today.
+'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ
Opinions are like ______________ everyone has one.
The in-fighting is what is killing Liberty.
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
Yea, I am sure when Alex Jones turned against Debra Medina for not parroting his 9/11 conspiracy but somehow endorsed Trump for not even mentioning it. He doesn't partake in the liberty in fighting. He is just a victim of those mean divisive libertarians who just happen to see him for the fraud and sell he is.
Personally, I don't care whether Trump's really a racist or just plays one on TV, considering that he supports:
- socialized medicine
- bank bailouts
- stimulus spending
- eminent domain
...to name a few of his many deviations from anything resembling libertarianism/conservatism.
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I hope and pray Rand does well in Iowa and eventually takes the nomination, if only for people to see how AJ will react.
+'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ
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“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
No no, that is not a conspiracy theory. I want to know what he said about building 7, explosions in the building etc etc. But regardless, we all know that Alex just like Stefan Molyneux is too much of a cuckold(sorry guys, just can't find a more appropriate word) to challenge Trump on anything.
Flying the Bin Laden family out was said to be a conspiracy theory. Even Snopes agreed it was: http://www.snopes.com/rumors/flights.asp
But the fact of the matter it was true: http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive...20Docs%202.pdf
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
....the more intelligent people i know understand alex jones has ALWAYS been a stinking operative for the stinking republican party...ruse f@cking lamebaugh 3.0
...but he's CERTAINLY not the only 'libertarian' political operative for trump!
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2...-anti-sanders/
Anti-anti-Trump, Anti-anti-Sanders
Extremism in defense of peace is no vice
by Justin Raimondo, January 29, 2016
I haven’t had this much fun in years – of course I’m talking about the US presidential election season, with The Donald taking on all comers, and winning (at least so far), and Berne Sanders burning up the self-satisfied mandarins of the Democratic party Establishment....
....Oh yes, it’s great fun watching the waterboarding of the neocons, because they count among their enemies the top two contenders for the Republican nomination, not only Trump but also Ted Cruz. The greasy-haired Canadian earned their ire when he attacked them by name, but as Rosie Gray reports in Buzzfeed they may be reconciling themselves to Cruz because he’s the only viable Not-Trump:...
...“Cruz, it turns out, hasn’t fully burned his bridges with that set of advisers and supporters of George W. Bush – figures like Weekly Standardeditor Bill Kristol and former National Security Council official Elliott Abrams, who aren’t closed off to Cruz, especially in the case of Abrams. Indeed, despite some lingering resentment and suspicion, there are even glimmers of rapprochement as the Republican primary looks like it could become a two-man race. ‘I would not hesitate to back Cruz as the nominee,’ Abrams – who not long ago told National Review that Cruz’s use of the word neocon invoked ‘warmongering Jewish advisers’ – told BuzzFeed News.”
Cruz, for his part, is more than willing to smoke a peace pipe with the War Party:
“In an interview on his campaign bus in Iowa last week, Cruz told BuzzFeed News that, despite his jabs at neocons, he has ‘good relations with a great many foreign policy thinkers.’ Cruz has in the past cited Abrams along with former U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. John Bolton and former CIA director James Woolsey as trusted foreign policy experts.”
...On the other side of the aisle – that is, in the Democratic party – a similar drama, with some significant variations, is being played out in the race pitting Bernie Sanders against Hillary Clinton. The latter is widely considered the presumptive heir, much like Jeb Bush was assumed to be the GOP frontrunner on account of his last name. Yet Bush has been humiliated and sidelined, and Mrs. Clinton may well be in danger of sharing his fate: Sanders is beating her in New Hampshire as well as in Iowa. This has “centrist” Michael Bloomberg, former New York City mayor and professional scold, so upset that he is threatening to launch a third party run if Sanders gets the nod.....
....From a noninterventionist perspective, neither Sanders nor Trump is perfect – both are very far from that. But to nitpick over their deviations is to entirely miss the point, as sectarians of both the left and right are bound to do. These two candidates represent, each in their own way, powerful and growing tendencies on both sides of the ideological spectrum that the movement for peace can utilize to its own advantage. For we cannot change the world until and unless we begin to understand it: only then can we take advantage of such openings as it allows. What is happening in this country is a rebellion against both wings of the War Party – and that is something to be celebrated and encouraged, even as we critique its shortcoming and urge the rebels to take their insurgency further.
We here at Antiwar.com do not endorse candidates for office: nevertheless, we encourage our readers and supporters to inform themselves and take an interest in the political process in order to bring about a more peaceful and a freer world. Insofar as this election season is concerned, the watchwords or slogans that give voice to the “correct” position are best expressed in terms of double-negatives. For my conservative Republican readers, that would be: anti-anti-Trump. For the progressive Democrats: anti-anti-Sanders.
We are hearing the voices of the Mushy Moderate Middle rise up in defense of the status quo: Democrats like the Washington courtier Dana Milbank are warning us against Sanders, while the neocons to a man are railing against the Trumpist Temptation. This should be enough to tell us what is the right road to take and what our answer to the Mushy Middletarians must be: Extremism in defense of peace is no vice – and moderation in the fight against the War Party is no virtue!
Well its a stupid conspiracy as stupid as the BBC reporting the collapse of building 7 before it collapsed. I want him to talk about controlled demolition. I would go as much as to say that the people who talk about the 2 irrelevant part of the story are actually hurting the 911 truth movement.
The point you are still avoiding is that Alex Jones Town bows to authoritarian powerful men like Truth. He never starts a fight with him, instead he starts one with a grassroot liberty candidate who at the time was threatening to unseat Gov Perry.
I urge people to listen to AJ's podcasts with Matt Drudge and David Duke to see who he is beholden to. The last podcast with David Duke was banned from infowars BTW... It's not who AJ attacks which reveals his sham, but who AJ doesn't attack which gives him away.
Note, this does not mean I support David Duke, just spreading the info for those who want to see the truth about AJ.
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+'These things I command you, that you love one another.' - Jesus Christ
Rand was on AJ's show January 13, 2016
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
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